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To ask my children's pre-school not to let them play outside

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AitchDee · 01/12/2012 12:44

My twins attend a local preschool for three mornings a week. Since they started I have had issues with them arriving home at lunch time with soaking wet sleeves and trousers where they have done outside water play, and hands that are red raw from being cold and wet.

On Thursday upon dropping them off, we were told not to take coats/hats/gloves off as they were going o play in the school field next door. I raised my eyebrows at the time as it really was a very cold, frosty morning.

A hour later I got a phone call to say my twins needed collecting as one was very poorly and falling asleep/eyes rolling in his head, and the other 'had come out in sympathy' and was crying hysterically.

I collected them and brought them home, but I think they we're just utterly freezing. They were absolutely fine the rest of the day. All the other children were playing happily back in the warm so it was only mine.

I'm not sure if I am just being precious. They do love playing outside, even in freezing cold water and wet sand, no matter the weather, but I think their bodies use find it a bit much. They were born very early, and only weighed 1lb 3oz at birth but to look at them now they have caught up.

Would I look a twat asking preschool to keep them indoors until spring? Maybe my twins just need a bit of toughening up? They will be three in January if that makes a difference.

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AitchDee · 01/12/2012 15:46

Thanks for your opinions everyone.

Last week they went in wearing:
Long sleeved vest
Dungarees
Socks
Jumper
Preschool zip-up fleece
Waterproof jacket
Hat/gloves/scarf
Wellies

The water play was last week...in the mornings the water table was frozen solid!

anyway, I have taken what you have said on board and will send them in wearing their waterproof, padded all-in-one whatsits (they have these www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BNWT-Red-Spotty-Snowsuit-ski-suit-Muddy-Puddles-6-12-months-/261127462253?pt=UK_Baby_Girls&hash=item3ccc68dd6d&nma=true&si=MXGecPht4UdYLdB5NSyUIvn1CcA%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557). I hadn't sent them in these because I thought it might be a bit of a pain for the staff getting them on and off.

I will also invest in waterproof gloves and snow boots, and embrace the fresh air!

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bradywasmyfavouriteking · 01/12/2012 15:46

Yanbu about the wet play. Its not appropriate at this time of year.

Yabu about playing out. They can not provide staff just to watch your children inside while all others play out and I am sure your children would like that either.

mercibucket · 01/12/2012 15:42

I feel the cold more than other people and always have done. Ds1 takes after me. he doesn't like being out as long in the cold as the other kids, because it starts to hurt. From long experience I know that appropriate clothes help, but for someone who feels the cold, they are not enough. I would get blue fingers regardless of what I was wearing.
So, yes, speak to the nursery, just say they need an eye and not to let them stay out on cold days for too long

mercibucket · 01/12/2012 15:42

I feel the cold more than other people and always have done. Ds1 takes after me. he doesn't like being out as long in the cold as the other kids, because it starts to hurt. From long experience I know that appropriate clothes help, but for someone who feels the cold, they are not enough. I would get blue fingers regardless of what I was wearing.
So, yes, speak to the nursery, just say they need an eye and not to let them stay out on cold days for too long

TiggyD · 01/12/2012 15:34

I'm a nursery nurse and I'm a massive fan of being outside.

But...

some nurseries try to be outside without understanding what it takes to be outside a lot. There is a saying in childcare that everything you can do inside you can do outside. The saying is wrong and really annoys me. Water or anything that involves getting wet is a terrible idea any time other than the summer. Wet = cold.
Reading books involves sitting down, not moving much and removing gloves to turn pages, all things that will make you cold. Clothes must be suitable.
The way some nurseries behave will put children off going outside. It's perfectly possible to be outside in freezing conditions and be comfortable.

I think you should have a word with the nursery about letting children get wet outside. It's dangerous.
And make sure they have the right clothes: 2 pairs of socks, wellies, tights, trousers, t-shirt, jumper, fleece, waterproof topcoat, scarf/snood, hat that covers ears, and waterproof gloves-not wool!

TunipTheVegedude · 01/12/2012 15:31

I'm not impressed with the preschool leaving them in wet clothes. That's not acceptable.
If I sent my kids to preschool without appropriate clothes for the activity, they would lend the kids clothes or ring me up and have a (justified) grumble at me, or not let the kids join in the activity (and tell me off when I picked them up). There's no way they'd let the kids go ahead and do it anyway then leave them in wet clothes. Madness.

natation · 01/12/2012 15:27

OP didn't say specifically the water play was in the cold weather, well it might be, she wrote they'd had wet sleeves and trousers and complained about this since they started, the wet play might have been during warm weather or might not have been, the OP didn't say.

5madthings · 01/12/2012 15:27

My ds4 is in reception and their classroom includes an outside area they have water play etc, i.just send him with appropriate clothing and a change of clothes.

Water play is fine even in the cold but the children should have waterproifs and be dried and changed if they get wet.

AThingInYourLife · 01/12/2012 15:24

My children are wrapped up and outside in all weathers, but outdoor water play is ridiculous is this weather.

Jingleflobba · 01/12/2012 15:18

Outside water play is just stupid in this weather, not sure what the teachers were thinking with that one. Otherwise outdoor play with suitable clothes is perfectly safe and healthy in most weather.
Maybe ask about the water play but leave the outdoor play unless you want the teacher to be rolling her eyes at your back as you leave the classroom.

Narked · 01/12/2012 15:15

I'd be annoyed with the nursery. At not yet 3 you're sending them in with clean changes of clothes, so why are they leaving them in wet stuff?

Good layering will sort out the cold. with waterproofs on top, and the nursery reminded to make sure they're wearing it.

SauvignonBlanche · 01/12/2012 15:15

YABU.

Iggly · 01/12/2012 15:07

It's never bad weather but bad preparation (or summat).

Get them decent waterproof clothes and make sure the nursery help them get dressed. They do at ours.

natation · 01/12/2012 15:05

This is what many of the children were in our nursery. 1 piece is easier for staff to take on and off. The Swedish and Norwegian children are always dressed in the best outdoor clothes, follow their example. Think about what clothes your children wear inside too, ones easiest to get on and off still!
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B001NYNDQU/ref=asc_df_B001NYNDQU10827282/?tag=googlecouk06-21&creative=22134&creativeASIN=B001NYNDQU&linkCode=asn

inkonapin · 01/12/2012 13:49

Yabu not to provide appropriate clothing for your children! Are they supposed to stay inside until April? [Confused]

greenbananas · 01/12/2012 13:45

It is a requirement of the EYFS that children are offered the opportunity to play outdoors, even in cold weather. However, this does not mean they should all be forced to play outdoors - children who really don't want to go outside can be allowed to stay indoors instead. If you dress your children warmly (gloves, hats, waterproofs, dungarees), they may choose to play outdoors quite happily.

You have a good point about the water play. That is just plain silly (and cruel) in cold weather.

GreenPetal94 · 01/12/2012 13:03

Are the clothes you have actually warm enough? We are in Scotland and is is essential to have various layers on as just a coat / gloves / hat are not really enough. Also the kind of wooly gloves they sell for kids are often inadequate and ski gloves are better. Wellies are good but you need thick socks inside them to avoid cold feet.

So I'd get all the gear and explain to the nursery the twins get cold easily and make sure they are wearing it all. I'd also mention about the prematurity as that may be a factor as to why they get cold.

ihearsounds · 01/12/2012 13:01

So they never go to the park in the winter?
The only thing that seems wrong is the water play and they don't have a change of clothing.

lilvixen · 01/12/2012 13:01

I agree about the water part. My DC's are real outdoorsy kids but kids aren't always sensible so the no-brainer adult thing to do in minus temperatures is to at least keep them dry IMO! Don't think that's being precious.

5madthings · 01/12/2012 12:59

Just send them with waterproofs and spare clothes. They love playing out even with water when its cold.

We oftrn freeze water in various tubs for ours to play with outside when its cold.

I saw a link.the othet day, put water with food colouring in a balloon, either freeze it in your freezer or outside overnight if its cold enough. Wjen frozen snip tje balloon and peel it off and you get what looks like a giant marble!! Very pretty and fun for the kids.

HeadfirstForAMistletoeKiss · 01/12/2012 12:59

I don't think you would be unreasonable to ask they didn't do outside water play when it is cold. Cold dry weather, and being wrapped up and playing outside is great, but not if you're soaked to the skin. I know if I peg out my washing on a frosty but sunny day my hand are freezing when I get back inside.

breatheslowly · 01/12/2012 12:59

As long as you are providing them with a proper level of clothing then I think you should raise the issue of them getting cold easily and ask if they could be carefully supervised outside and taken in if they are getting too cold. I don't think that they should be getting soaking with outside water play at this time of year. At any time of year DD is changed at nursery if she gets soaked, not left to come home like that. Her (very good IMO) nursery takes the children out all through the year but will do it for short bursts if it is really cold so that the children get out but don't freeze. I would be furious if I had to leave work to get DD because they had let her get too cold. But I would also be disappointed if they said it was too cold to go out on a dry day.

nahla321 · 01/12/2012 12:58

Yanbu about them being wet through as to then have to sit in wet clothes is awful for anybody. As for the cold I would just send them with another jacket under the coat and make sure they are wrapped up well, tights or leggings under trousers as well?

LIZS · 01/12/2012 12:56

Get them snow suits and winter boots. Outdoor play doesn't stop for winter in colder countries than ours!

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