to grass this colleague up?...sorry, long!

I hate skivvers

surely all this watching of your colleague takes away from your own work time. just let it go. yeah its annoying but have some faith in your bosses that it will come to light. concentrate on yourself not your colleague.

and on a different spin i know in my work place that there are young people who can fly through work that takes me all day and can multi task no end and still have time for a browse, so maybe depsite his few mins here and there and FB time his boss is delighted with his results!!

In the way you are suggesting.......just by spying on his pc screen, listening in to when he asks his wife to come and collect him, lots of small, petty details that really do not put you on a good light.

Conversely, if you said, wevare working ona project together and he consistently misses agreed deadlines which impacts my work, that would be very different!

well if your the perfect employee and you know he is taking the mick go for it. grass him up. hopefully he will lose his job (assuming thats what you want) and you will be employee of the month!

as someone said unless it is affecting your work directly why bother?

I meant as a manager, if someone I was managing came to me and grassed up someone else on my team, I would be appalled, based on, it is none of their business! Leave me to manage my team, based on results, expecations, targets.

If this guy is truly as much of a slacker as you suggest, why on earth do you think time will not out him?

I had a similar situation where the person in question ended up being fired , I ignored it as long as it didnt affect my work, when it did I would be clear work was late because I was waiting for so and so and i could see no reason for the delay, when said enough times the point was obvious.

Why not ask if flexi time is an option , maybe it is and he is availing of it in which case you can stop clock watching and maybe take advantage of it yourself, if not they might want to know why you thought it was a possibility?

Let it lie. It doesn't matter to you.

Even if he is eventually found out, nobody will look to you and wonder why you didn't speak up - his job is not related to yours and they'd know there's no reason at all for you to be monitoring his timekeeping, fag breaks or phone and internet use.

ebbandflow's comment is a reasonable one. you better make sure you are "perfect" before grassing someone up as you so put it.

"i havent said i am planning on grassing him up"

erm ... OP .... look at your title!

plus if you snitch on him you BETTER make sure you are the model employee who never makes a personal call, go online and use MN during work hours or be five mins late back after your lunch.

I'd stfu and leave your boss to work it out for him/herself. It's annoying when colleagues are dossing about but it's not on to grass them up.

ebbandflow wondered the same myself.

dont say anything. keep your head down. do your own work. he will eventually hang himself.

Is there any way that you can discuss this with him?

Op, I can understand how you feel. You work hard and he takes the piss, doesn't seem fair does it? However, if you've noticed his slack behaviour I can guarantee others have too or will do very soon. And, how do you know they haven't already tipped off the management and he is already being monitored.

I think the best thing to do would be to concentrate on your work and let this slacker dig his own grave. He'll be found out soon enough.

I think you need to be more detached from the situation. I can understand being annoyed at him and thinking it's a shame for the business, but leave it. Look out for yourself when it comes to work, do your own thing, protect your job security. Let your productivity speak for itself and his behaviour damn him on its own.

Have you written this in work time?

Mind your own business. It doesn't have any effect on you, and you will look terrible to your boss if you grass. Unless you want him thinking you are a snitch.

I think his boss will draw his own conclusions about your colleague if his performance isn't up to scratch. I used to work with someone like this. When the team was rearranged he was the only one to be made redundant. Don't say anything - it won't reflect well on you.

If he's commission based - then his sales will give him away - unless of course he's good enough to do everything you think is wrong and still meet all his sales targets, and in that case, YWBU to "grass him up" as he's fine.

Concentrate on your own performance, not others.

It's neither reasonable nor unreasonable. Have you come across the mneomic "THINK" regarding saying something? It stands for asking yourself whether what you want to say is True, Helpful, Inspiring, Necessary, and Kind... don't grass unless you are sure that all of these can be met.

another problem is that the longer someone is employe ,t he harder it is to get rid of them.

she has to nip it in the bud, because it's costing the employer a lot of money

i'm a business owner and i would be fucking fuming if this happened to me.

the thing is, early on in a sales job, the targets would be pretty low - you're given grace to learn the ropes etc, so low sales wouldn't be so unusual at this stage.
he obviously knows that and is taking full advantage.

I would be appalled if someone on my team grassed one ofntheir colleagues up in the way you are suggesting.

Let his results speak for themselves. Let your boss do his / her job.

If he slopes in at 10 and leaves at 4 and yet gets his sales figues, they might well be hapoy with his performance and you will just look like a tell tale.

Leave well alone.