To think all men are basically pervs?

In what world do people think that a person would come on the internet to complain about men discretely looking at women?

Clues in the OP are things like "obviously eyeing them up".

I am all for an admiring glance, a discrete look, a smile at someone you think it attractive.
I am not all for old geezers leering at teenagers.

I see men leering at schoolgirls quite a lot, as an example, and it make me feel uncomfortable.

I think that is fair enough.

Oh TiggyD I do so love you even though your penis smells of lavender

sardine the OP hasn't suggested that the girls being looked at were uncomfortable with it though - or that she made it clear to the gentlemen doing the looking that she was uncomfortable with their behaviour either - what one person considers a discrete look, another may consider 'perv'ing'.

LoL at keeping bits in the freezer - classic

TBH it's been a relief when I've been in a not-getting-leered -it phase!

Being visibly pregnant was marvellous.

A man might sometimes notice a lady has a particularly nice bottom, attractive legs, cheerful bazooms, or erotic ears. That's natural. It's when they take the bits and keep them in the freezer that it starts to get worrying. They've taken it too far.

It might also be a problem with older ladies who have let themselves go to seed. If they let themselves go all saggy and baggy and start wearing 'mum jumpers' and comfortable legwear, their partners will obviously start looking at less hideous people. The over 40s need to get back to wearing hotpants and low cut tops. There are plenty of good recipes you can do with mutton, it's just takes longer to prepare.

You don't know what leering is?

I guess for me it's when it makes people and/or the leered at person uncomfortable.

Do you really not know the difference between being leered at and being looked at?

How do you define "leering" anyway? Do they have to be acting like Sid James or is merely looking enough?

This is about leering and staring, notadisneymum.

And I would say if a girl or a boy is in school uniform it is pretty obvious that they are quite young.

Is the suggestion that before an adult admires a body they find attractive they should check the face attached to said body and make an assessment of the age of the body's owner?

What's wrong with admiring something (discreetly) that you find attractive? Assuming that it doesn't lead to action, where's the harm?
I admire the bodies men & women of all ages for a variety of reasons - some with envy, some with awe and some with lust That doesn't mean that I admire, or even consider, them as a person in that moment in time - the visual stimulus is their body's appearance, not their overall presence.

Any woman worried about their hubby lusting after a young female should encourage him to engage one in conversation. Watch his expression crumble in the face of sheer, unending drivel. Sentences appear to be punctuated with the word 'like' instead of commas or full stops. If some of them dress provocatively, it's because they are vacuous clones of their heroine, the mighty Jordan, and they have no hope of attracting somebody any other way

Yes, strangely enough he's also one of those liars who doesn't use porn either.

I'm so naive and deluded, he's been able to hide his true neanderthal self from me for nigh on 30 years.

Surely most moderately intellingent and mature men are capable of appreciating a young woman's beauty without mentally undressing her or drooling onto the floor - if not then how on earth do they manage around their daughters, neices, sisters or grandchildren?

Thankyou Sardine, I like that, its much better than ick.

Malifence no point posting that, your dh is, in fact a liar. He actually secretly fancies all her friends. Because all men are raging perverts. Sorry to break it to you but I'm afraid a bunch of randoms n the interweb know your dh better than you do.

The above also goes to the men who have posted on the thread too...you are lying to yourselves and know not your own opinion.

Is leering important in some way? And specifically older men and teenaged girls?

"It would be a much nicer society if leering at young women (and men) wasn't considered an acceptable thing to do (on either side)."
Yes but none of us would be alive.

My DH doesn't "perv" over girls or young women, in fact he has stopped looking at facebook pics of DD and her mates on nights out, especially the fancy dress ones where some of them look like lapdancers, he doesn't feel it's appropriate for him to be looking and the only thing he feels is dismay at how some of them look - he abhors the Jordan / Glamour model look and feels sad that any woman feels the need to present herself that way.

I now exactly the type of woman he finds attractive/desirable and a 16/17 year old looking like a Las vegas trannie aint it.

Well, to be specific, posting them on the forum, but an analogy was made with passing around smutty magazines in Starbucks, which was deemed to be acceptable.

"showing around pictures of half naked women and soft porn in public"

yerk

like when you're 14 or 15 and some guy comes and sits and looks at pg 3 very deliberately, and then you, and then back to page 3

It's natural, innit.

I haven't read the whole thread, but have been in a vociferous debate on a male dominated site where I was told categorically by a male poster that all men look at porn and see nothing wrong with showing around pictures of half naked women and soft porn in public. So it must be true.

I looked different at 12 and 14 and 16 - I think that I didn't change that much after 16 or at least I did a bit but the pace of change slowed down.

You can normally tell the difference facially between a 14yo and a 20 yo I think.
Although I don't go around staring at young women, I must admit!

No it was people saying that it's "natural" for old geezers to leer at 15yo on the basis that they are "fully physically developed" that got my goat!

archimedes people have always said that about girls!!!

sometimes its true other than my hair colour and weight gain I don't look any different to how I did at 18 tbh, im nearly 23 now. And I always looked older than I did .

refering to your earlier point , I didnt see that post but I assumed you meant
fully mature on the outside,