Four events this week at school during working hours…

You all seem to understand things in economic terms and are interested in monetary matters. Well less children obviously means less tax to pay for their schools, because there will be way less.

Again, it’s about showing interest. It’s interesting to get to know the staff teaching your children better, and to learn more about school life. My children love seeing me doing walk rounds etc, their friends like seeing me too, as many spend time at our home regularly. It creates a lovely sense of community,

State schools also receive funding per pupil. Lots of families at our school have 4-7 children, so their larger families, which require a parent at home to manage, do bring far more money into the school than a family who only has 1 child, for example.

Supporting and facilitating her childhood, and her successful path to adulthood. Just like you do.

And thoroughly enjoying being her parent, which I consider my greatest achievement. Just like you do.

But I work as well. I use the money and experience I get from that to enrich my DD's life (and ours). My work also significantly benefits our society. And interests me and helps me grow as a human (as well as often making me tired and stressed!)

As for suggesting that not taking my DC to music lessons in the evenings makes me a worse parent - that's just ridiculous 😂

Do you grow the vegetables and rear the animals which go into your DC's dinner? No. Yet, you still claim to feed your children!

Delegating things is absolutely fine and normal. It doesn't detract from the end result.

Having both working parents is a very slightly different experience and world view to having a SAH parent and WOH parent... and a slightly different experience again to having parents on benefits... and a slightly different experience again to having grandparent care.

Each family decides what they think is the best, across life's whole arch.

Part of that may also be different attitudes to our responsibility towards others in our society.

You're very, very sure that your view of responsibility is right. And not at all shy of telling others they fall short!

But you seem completely blind to the different view of responsibility they hold, and how you yourself fall short of that.

No, women should not just breed obviously 😂 However, MN does attract the odd poster who holds some rather extreme views!

So women should just breed - this is our role😭

Why wouldn’t it make sense to support a local school where I could add value?

DT’s were at an international school with a different structure so no need for my support (other than paying the fees!)

Primary schools are experiencing falling rolls, with primary schools already shutting in London, because women are too busy to have as many children or any children at all. All the local schools in our SE country have gone from having 2 classes of 30 with waiting lists to under 20 per class, so classes are being amalgamated. Society has devalued and disrespected motherhood that much it is unsurprising TBH. Women get no positivity around it.

So there will be far fewer schools to fund from the taxpayer’s money in years to come anyway.

Why didn’t you be a governor at your own DCs school? That doesn’t make sense?

State schools are funded from taxes.

At least 25% of those taxes come from many families having both parents in work.

If the headteacher (male, I notice) expects his students' mothers to be at his beck and call - and for the school to take no responsibility for school hours - then the consequence of that would be an economy 25% smaller... with 25% less tax income... and 25% less funding available for his school.

So many public sector and state-funded families seem to completely miss the link between someone doing paid work -> taxpayer money being available for all the nice things you want to enjoy.

Everything obviously.

The fact that I used a school provided music lesson service is hardly negating my parental responsibility and the fact that you seem to think it is is seriously weird.

Many years ago I had my music lessons during the school day - was always delighted when it clashed with science! DT’s did piano, two half an hour lessons a week during the school day.

Possibly. Ha, and ironically that will be practically and emotionally easier for me when they are at secondary school, can walk there, are (hopefully) less ill & I’m not in and out of their school so often 😂

@ThankYouNigel

Are you thinking of going back to work when your children are older? You’d accrue some more pension on your own.

Genuinely have you ever taught 30 kids of have any of the demands of what teachers are already expected to deliver without have everyone’s little darling popping in and out of their lessons as and when it suits their parents for stuff they can’t be bothered to do? Bonkers! Congratulations to all the teachers who are leaving and escaping this utter madness they have to endure.

Oh and not that it’s any of your business or anything I worry about, but I’ll have a state pension and do as we’ve always done and share my husband’s teacher pension. Team effort for life.

Their Dad has already been saving for that since they were born thanks, he prioritises spending his earnings on his children, not himself.

This is a very strange comparison.

So what exactly do you see as your responsibility to sort out for your children? 🤦🏻‍♀️

@ThankYouNigel will be on these boards in years to come complaining that her family don’t have the money to support their DC’s through Uni and she doesn’t have a pension, what can she do!

Our local (state) schools
manage this, and all private schools seem to manage it. What a shame your school isn’t capable of doing so.

All things DH and I did as working parents. I was also a school governor - not at the school DT’s went to but one who contacted me and asked for my business experience, skills I had because I had a career.

It’s disgraceful, both to their own children, other people’s and the staff. Schools need to issue formal warnings or fines to nip that type of selfish, neglectful behaviour in the bud.

Nope. As @TheOutlier says, state schools are a tax-payer funded service which has multiple purposes.

Purposes which are all paid for by the taxpayer.

@twinkletoesimnot 😂at you objecting to teachers being 'treated like we are staff’ . Welcome to working for clients 😂That's what we're all paid for.

All except @ThankYouNigel - who is riding off our work and taxes whilst she pours all her time and energy into her own family. And somehow feels superior to us all for it 🙄

Hmm, interesting.

I taught my children to use the toilet, get dressed, hang up their things, recognise letter sounds and tidy up their toys before they went to Nursery aged 3 1/2. I would never have sent them if I hadn’t taught them to use the toilet, that’s MY job.

I ensure they complete every piece of reading, home learning the school sets. I back the teachers with discipline. They wear the correct uniform, everything is paid for on time, everything the school ask for is done. I attend every event. I give hours of unpaid time to their school as a governor.

Being entitled is palming off your parental duties on the school whilst refusing to take any accountability for your own child’s personal care skills and behaviour.