Wayne Couzens and indecent exposure

[Shedbuilder]

Just listening to a report on Sarah Everard's rape and murder. Wayne Couzens, the policeman who abducted and killed her, had a history of indecent exposure but nothing was done about him. The BBC now reports that the police are asking why not.

I'd always understood that indecent exposure tended to be a 'starter' offence and that flashing and exposure was the way a lot of sex offenders started their criminal career.

If Wayne Couzens's acts of indecent exposure should have been treated as acts of a dangerous man, why doesn't this apply to all male-bodied people, including those who call themselves by a female name, wear women's clothing etc and expose themselves in changing rooms, pools, gyms etc?

That's an excellent question Shedbuilder
I think it's one of the questions women are not meant to ask as the answers are incredibly revealing. That's why we're apparently transphobic and using dog whistles if we ask why indecent exposure in front of women and children appears to be celebrated in certain circles

Psychologists have been saying for decades that paraphilias tend to cluster. So, for example, a man who identifies as a furry might also identify as a nappy-wearing baby. The sort of men who enjoy breaking one boundary often get a taste for breaking other boundaries.

This really ought to be discussed more.

What is a furry?

Whatever you do Vincent do not Google it.

It is a real problem - indecent exposure and voyeurism effectively decriminalised by progressives and the police. Who really trusts the police anymore with this?

This is part of why there is no debate and everything is bigotry.

So now we know that he was caught in 2015 as well as 2021. Bastard. And 12 police people being investigated. At least channel 4 is naming the misogyny which exists within the force...but of course in other situations we are supposed to look away if a man exposes himself. Or wait until we are arrested for tying ribbons. How long have feminists and other women been talking about it? How many more women are going to be killed? Feeling sick and angry. And Cressida Dick apologising for the actions of MEN.

It's a red flag, isn't it?

Used to be seen as sort of harmless daftness.

In fact, I am astounded to see it wasn't even a specific offence until - 2003/4? Interesting article, especially the two 'expert' views - one male, one female:

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6749015.stm

I said this on one of the Wi Spa threads. If he'd been more astute in choosing the venue for his indecent exposure then, under gender ideology, no crime would have been committed. As it was the police didn't give a shit anyway. They'd be more likely to arrest a woman for misgendering someone on Twitter. If Couzens has any sense he'd start identifying as a woman around about now. What would be the downside? He could just identify back again when he gets out.

[quote ArabellaScott]It's a red flag, isn't it?

Used to be seen as sort of harmless daftness.

In fact, I am astounded to see it wasn't even a specific offence until - 2003/4? Interesting article, especially the two 'expert' views - one male, one female:

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6749015.stm[/quote]
The two opposing points of view was very enlightening.

*"I think indecent exposure is more a flight than fight crime. People who commit it are afraid of others rather than intent on being violent towards them.

"Those sorts of people don't strike me as violent predators like rapists."*

Unbelievable the excuses that are made for these men. Right up to 'He seemed like such a nice, normal bloke' post violent assault, rape or murder.

The whole system is broken. From Ofsted treating unsolicited dick pics as 'boys will be boys' to the deep misogyny in the forces to the minimising and victim blaming of sexual offences.

I don't actually understand how he was allowed to continue after 2015. My best friend is in the police and the rules are so strict she had to cut ties with friends who dabbled in a bit of weed.
Of course she's female so the rules apply to her.

You can openly look up charges against serving/once serving UK police officers.

It's an eye opener.

That's to say: the UK government allows its citizens to look up the criminal charges levied against its police officers. And the judgements handed down.

@Purplehoodie how do you do that?
Own dodgy met officer

Criminal, and internal governance charges.

You do an internet search for your local police area, including disciplinary issues.

www.westyorkshire.police.uk/about-us/our-standards/professional-standards/misconduct-hearings

For example.

Type:

"Police"

"Misconduct hearings"

Plus your local policing area.

www.westyorkshire.police.uk/about-us/our-standards/professional-standards/national-strategy-abuse-position-sexual-purpose

Sexual predators in the police forces.