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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Law on unisex loos in places of entertainment

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AncientLights · 27/04/2019 15:15

Firstly, my apologies if there is a way to find out if this has already been clarified but if there is I can't find it. I have done an advanced search which threw up nothing.

Anyway, I stumbled into unisex loos twice earlier this week, both in cafés/restaurants. Never been in them before in the UK, hated them as did my DD. In both cases, they were floor to ceiling walls and doors but with the wash basins, mirrors outside for both sexes to use.

So I intend letting the management know what I think of them but want to cite any relevant laws. Can anyone help?

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MenuPlant · 27/04/2019 15:40

I don't think there are laws

Loads of cafes and things have often had 1 for everyone

Do you mean they have taken a set of ladies or gents and neutraled them, so set of cubicles and then hand washing outside and another door back to place? I have been in one of these unisex I didn't like it and nor did the man I was in there with! It's just not usual in this country.

Still private business can do as they please, assuming they meet hygiene things if food place etc

You can vote with your feet is all I think

Is different to things provided by councils and so forth, schools and kids groups and what not

AncientLights · 27/04/2019 20:56

MenuPlant yes it looks to me like they have done exactly that, both of them. So it's one door from the corridor into the loos - which both said unisex on the door - and then a row of 4 or 5 separate loos, floor to ceiling walls and doors, but with the basins facing the loos. Mercifully no urinals.

As you say, I can only vote with my feet then, which I will do after letting them know why.

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MenuPlant · 27/04/2019 22:32

Yes - I think if unisex it's better to be more open, rather than through another set of doors.

There's also the stuff around sanitary bins / machines and whatnot, men aren't going to like not being able to get through the door without a lot of wriggling like we have put up with forever!

Also in a standard size cubicle, isn't there a risk that they will get piss on the sanitary bin? I mean not on purpose but if it's rammed right up next to the seat like normal it's going to happen isn't it.

Hadn't thought of that before, yuk.

Oldrockman · 27/04/2019 23:16

I do and don't like them, but I can used disabled loos and most of them are unisex. For me when I am out with DD she can use a cubicle and I can somewhat keep guard while she still has privacy. I am nervous when she has to go to the ladies on her own and there is the chance of a man pertaining to be what they are not going in there. For nothing else I do not want to try to explain to an infant this modern BS. On the other hand I think given the difference of needs between the sexes ideally single sex facilities are the way to go, but they should be for those who are that sex. I could rant about places that make the disabled loos available for 'trans' but I get too angry, I have torn signs down in disgust.

MenuPlant · 28/04/2019 12:18

Interesting observation:

I have relaised though conversation and stuff in real life, that many men feel no compunction about using disabled facilities / other peoples facilities if they feel they have a need / there's no-one around etc

Women tend to stick to their own facilities (bar very crowded pubs when they're teenagers)...

That is interesting in itself.

Maybe as men don't stick so firmly to the signs and just do what they want when they need, they don;t understand womens objections as much.

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