Lessons will be learned

[Juells]

Lessons will always be learned, but it seems like they don't stick.

news.sky.com/story/nottingham-care-home-inquiry-reveals-343-cases-of-child-sexual-abuse-11514478

In another case a care worker who was engaging in sexual activity with an underage girl in his care was not sacked because he may not have been aware it was wrong.

The Labour MP quoted might be an ally? He's obviously aware of what happens when safeguarding breaks down.

Bloody hell. Ignorance of the law is no defence. Sack the care worker whilst also making it clear to him what the law is. What's the issue with that?

Bloody hell -can't believe what I just read-
"He was not dismissed because in 1983 there was a lack of clear guidance given to him as the role of a house parent."
Sex with an underage girl was illegal in 1983 and everyone knew that! You would think that not breaking the law was an obvious requirements for a 'house parent'.

So much terrifying stuff in that article. This was particularly chilling:

'In one case Mr Sadd said the child was just ignored: "The police viewed the incident as a foster child 'plying her trade... rather than being harmed.'"'

Because sex work is an empowering, freely-made choice, isn't it? Where have we heard that before?

The police viewed the incident as a foster child 'plying her trade'

yes, a comment when the Rotherham scandal broke stuck with me - social workers told a parent that their 15 year old daughter had made a decision to be a prostitute, therefore they did not need to get involved

This is where all that SWERF nonsense leads us

Absolute rubbish. That’s no defence.

This is where all that SWERF nonsense leads us

Yep. The endgame is women and girls being unable to explain or justify why we don't want to be prostituted.

The endgame is women and girls being unable to explain or justify why we don't want to be prostituted

Aren't people still trying to get it acceptable for sex work to be advertised in Job Centres and the online equivalent tho' it's one of the areas where people (at present) couldn't be compelled to apply for a vacancy?

Banned in 2010, iirc, but people are still trying to find a way around it. tbh, the news about the sex work stand at a university freshers event made me think that there's another push to normalise this.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10831614

Back in the 70's my dad, who was a senior Met Police Officer, became aware, as a result of investigating another crime, of widespread child abuse in a North London children's home. He asked to investigate but was not allowed to. His understanding was that senior politicians within the local Council were part of the decision. I remember him being very angry and upset.

Nothing changes it seems.

My bold:
In another case a care worker who was engaging in sexual activity with an underage girl in his care was not sacked because he may not have been aware it was wrong.

Mr Sadd told the inquiry that the following justification was given to a subsequent investigation: "He was not dismissed because in 1983 there was a lack of clear guidance given to him as the role of a house parent."

This is even less believable than 'the dog ate my homework'. The word 'may' in that is excuse-making, there was no definite finding that he did or did not know. 'May' is an assumption.

In the 1980s, and even earlier, an adult having 'sex' with a minor was known to be illegal, and an offence that could lead to imprisonment. 'May not' has no validity here.

But the role of 'house parent'? Again, even back then incest was known to be wrong - and someone assuming that role of parent, is expected to behave as one, not act like a predatory fucker. The title gives it away. So anyone not aware of how to behave like a parent, should not be in that role. It should not need explaining, nor should any 'guidance' be required.

As for:
foster child 'plying her trade.

Did they completely overlook the word 'child' in that? No child has a trade. I guess they are revealing their view that females are only on this planet to be fucked by men, with or without money.

Misogynist pricks.

Did they completely overlook the word 'child' in that? No child has a trade.

^^ Yes! There's no such thing as a child prostitute - there are prostituted children who are raped.

In another case a care worker who was engaging in sexual activity with an underage girl in his care was not sacked because he may not have been aware it was wrong.

While the definition of house parent may or probably was not that woolly, the accepted definition of paedophile was not in question in the 1980s.

Thread collating some of the systemic failings / failures of Child Protection and Safeguarding frameworks:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3301266-Safeguarding-girls-and-protecting-women-post-Jimmy-Saville-metoo