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Masks banned for children at dc's primary school - teachers, can the head do this?

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PCatwalk Tue 01-Sep-20 20:47:01

She says no masks for children at all without a medical reason and a doctor's note hmm

She says the Dfe are v clear about masks in primary - but I think it's an arbitrary rule based on age, not physiology . My Y6 dd is as tall as me and so are a couple of her friends!

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underneaththeash Tue 01-Sep-20 20:53:40

Why would your 10 year old need a mask?

FancyARoot Tue 01-Sep-20 20:55:05

Good. Sounds sensible to me.

RealityExistsInTheHumanMind Tue 01-Sep-20 21:33:24

I hope she can

If heads can say masks are compulsory surely they can say banned and for primary kids I would definitely say that is the sensible option.

When proper masks are worn properly there is a slight protection.

When masks are worn wrongly and fiddled with all the time they are dangerous.

For kids they are more dangerous than protecting and kids are not at risk from CV.

FTMF30 Tue 01-Sep-20 21:35:04

Not sure if its allowed but it's certainly sensible.

CallmeAngelina Tue 01-Sep-20 21:39:22

Surely the medical reason would be ....erm... Covid, perhaps?

CallmeAngelina Tue 01-Sep-20 21:41:55

I've read of teachers on here saying their Heads won't allow masks/PPE and I've always wondered how that would stand up in court, if it came to it.
Surely they can't "ban" them??? Regardless of one's personal feelings about them, imagine if someone caught the virus, and it transpired that they/those around them had been prevented from taking what many consider to be a viable precaution.

bbn81 Tue 01-Sep-20 21:45:42

Remember why we are wearing masks - to protect others. Wearing a mask will not protect your dd and might actually cause her to spread the virus more if she doestn remove it properly, touches or messes with in school.

Aroundtheworldin80moves Tue 01-Sep-20 21:48:51

The major difference between Primary and Secondary is the group size. At Secondary they are mixing with 150 or so other people. At Primary it's 30.

CallmeAngelina Tue 01-Sep-20 22:00:27

At Primary it's 30.
Not necessarily - large primaries with 2 or 3 form entry are counting whole year groups as bubbles.

Letseatgrandma Tue 01-Sep-20 22:05:02

Aroundtheworldin80moves

The major difference between Primary and Secondary is the group size. At Secondary they are mixing with 150 or so other people. At Primary it's 30.

No, and in fact that’s probably unusual. All the primary schools round here are doing year group bubbles. That’s 90 in my school, 120 in DC’s school and 150 in the school nearer town which is 5-form entry.

latticechaos Tue 01-Sep-20 22:06:46

kids are not at risk from CV.

This is factually incorrect.

Kids are at low risk from Covid.

dingledongle Tue 01-Sep-20 22:07:38

Our Secondary school is asking for ours to wear masks all the time- wish they did not have too angrysad

FlatCheese Tue 01-Sep-20 22:09:02

Ours are banned in primary school too. Presumably a y6 would be ok to manage one, but further down the school could they actually be worse than not having one? I'm thinking if they end up fiddling with them or dropping them or accidentally picking up someone else's.

farmertom Tue 01-Sep-20 22:17:52

Good, as others have pointed out they have no place in a primary (or secondary imo).

Motherofmonsters Tue 01-Sep-20 22:20:29

Our primary has asked students to not wear them however if individuals want to they have to demonstrate that they can use them properly i.e not fiddling with them

Desperado24 Tue 01-Sep-20 22:22:42

latticechaos

*kids are not at risk from CV.*

This is factually incorrect.

Kids are at low risk from Covid.

Your autocorrect replaced minuscule/non-existent with low

Norestformrz Wed 02-Sep-20 07:34:49

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/28/health/kids-covid-19-nose-throat-wellness/index.html

prh47bridge Wed 02-Sep-20 09:48:11

Surely they can't "ban" them

Yes, they can.

The current regulations do not require primary school children to wear masks and the current guidance is that they are only required in secondary schools. The law gives head teachers wide powers to set and enforce disciplinary rules.

phonez Wed 02-Sep-20 13:34:42

Where is the specific law that allows head to ban the wearing of face masks - if a child comes in wearing a face mask and does not take it off when asked then what next?

I have a friend who is instructing her children to wear masks at all time's

Lougle Wed 02-Sep-20 13:43:40

phonez

Where is the specific law that allows head to ban the wearing of face masks - if a child comes in wearing a face mask and does not take it off when asked then what next?

I have a friend who is instructing her children to wear masks at all time's

It will be as simple as "Lisa, face coverings are not part of the uniform policy. Remove that from your face, please." Just as any other clothing/accessory that isn't in the uniform policy.

Current guidance is that face coverings are not needed unless you are in a high density Covid area. Headteachers have the discretion to require face coverings, but that does not mean that parents can demand it. Some schools will be more flexible than others.

halcyondays Wed 02-Sep-20 13:49:21

There’s nothing in the guidance that says people shouldn’t wear them in schools if they wish to. Think this Head’s on dodgy ground here.

halcyondays Wed 02-Sep-20 13:50:32

CallmeAngelina

I've read of teachers on here saying their Heads won't allow masks/PPE and I've always wondered how that would stand up in court, if it came to it.
Surely they can't "ban" them??? Regardless of one's personal feelings about them, imagine if someone caught the virus, and it transpired that they/those around them had been prevented from taking what many consider to be a viable precaution.

Exactly.

ChaChaCha2012 Wed 02-Sep-20 13:56:48

Heads are free to dictate what children wear in school, that includes masks.

JM10 Wed 02-Sep-20 15:55:40

Primary children shouldn't need to wear them. They are much more likely to drop them, touch them constantly and then touch everything around them. I would be happy if my school made this decision.

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