MNHQ here: Find the 5000 - help us find the thousands of women being underpaid £10,000 on their pensions

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JuliaMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 22-Apr-21 17:27:18

Hello everyone! Pension inequality is not a new topic on Mumsnet and many of you also know that thousands of women have been underpaid tens of thousands of pounds due to DWP errors.

Many of these groups of women are being actively chased up by the department - but some are not. One of these is a group of about 5,000 who are getting about £1 a week. So it was suggested to us by on this thread that we mobilise Mumsnetters to help reach some of them and let them know.

Challenge accepted. We’ve launched the call for everyone to try and find these 5000 women who are receiving a pittance on twitter, facebook, and instagram - and over on Gransnet.

We’ve just published a guest post by former pensions minister Steve Webb about all the different groups of women who are being underpaid their pensions - who they are and what they can do, including these 5,000 women.

If you fancy it, get your brew on brew and here’s what you can do:

- Read the guest post and work out if you know women who may fit these criteria
- Get in touch with them and let them know they may be eligible - send them the calculator here
- Maybe help them work it out if they are not connected to the internet.
- Spread the word to friends and families about not only these 5,000 but the other two groups of women who are missing out but will not receive anything unless they make a demand.

Let us know if you'll be taking part - and how you can get on - on this thread!

MNHQ

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Oldsu Thu 22-Apr-21 19:02:31

Well its sounds good, but do you really believe that the majority of mums netters will give a flying do dah about this, whilst I love being on this board and find the threads, funny, sad, informative etc, when it comes to pensioners you must know the spite and anger some feel towards them, look at the thread about the triple lock posted a few weeks ago, and the thread about how the young are suffering to protect the elderly, most on here believe that pensioners all retired on final salary pensions, how the only thing they are worried about is getting their second jab so that they can swan off on a cruise, how the young working people are paying for someone else's pensions when they wont get one themselves, there is a mind set on this board against pensioners and I don't think a lot on here will know or care that some pensioners are living in poverty and are not getting what they are entitled to. I would love to be proved wrong and hope that some do care but I am not holding my breath

HeronLanyon Thu 22-Apr-21 22:12:14

Brilliant. Have two friends in 80s - will mention and see if they want help. At same time doing for me late mother’s pension situation. Thanks mnhq. I Take your point oldsu

Notnowjo Fri 23-Apr-21 02:59:01

Just read the guest post surely the need for some women to make a second pension claims is direct sex discrimination because it is only women not men???

PurplePansy05 Fri 23-Apr-21 07:12:47

What a silly and generalised first response. I'm in mid-30s and posted on this topic separately at the same time as the thread mentioned by MNHQ, also asking for intervention on this. We too have mothers, grandmothers, family members and friends who may benefit from knowing this and the whole purpose is to spread information about this far and wide. This hasn't been publicised enough and even though it doesn't affect me directly, I think it's too important to ignore and solidarity is key here.

I am glad this has now been pinned.

katmarie Fri 23-Apr-21 08:14:07

I think this is really important, and it's good to see mumsnet mobilising to help women who may be missing out on their pensions. We have a couple of ladies who would fit the criteria in our group of neighbours, so I will check in with them both.

ElephantsNest Fri 23-Apr-21 15:36:07

I don’t think I know anyone personally but I work with a few who might fit and will certainly spread the word.

Macncheeseballs Fri 23-Apr-21 18:29:57

Had a quick read but still not absolutely sure who it applies to, a bullet point here or there may help

Oldsu Fri 23-Apr-21 18:55:57

PurplePansy05

What a silly and generalised first response. I'm in mid-30s and posted on this topic separately at the same time as the thread mentioned by MNHQ, also asking for intervention on this. We too have mothers, grandmothers, family members and friends who may benefit from knowing this and the whole purpose is to spread information about this far and wide. This hasn't been publicised enough and even though it doesn't affect me directly, I think it's too important to ignore and solidarity is key here.

I am glad this has now been pinned.

Really, It wish it was just a generalisation I would suggest you try and find the thread about the triple lock posted just after the budget and then you would see a lot of spite and general nastiness directed against pensioners and it was mild compared to other threads on mumsnet, I reached pension age myself in March and was going to defer, but having read some posts on here vilifying pensioners I decided to take it, sorry but mumsnet are known for this in fact when benefits are mentioned it does not take long for a discussion about what pensioners get to raise its head, I am glad you are taking this seriously and actually understand the issues, but for everyone of you and I there will be 10 on here thinking 'so what'

FlaviaAlbiaWantsLangClegBack Sat 24-Apr-21 08:12:20

Thst is very useful, thanks MNHQ and viques. I can think of a few women who might be in one of the affected categories.

CalamityJaneDoe Sat 24-Apr-21 10:59:04

So what if it is 2 in 10 people? If 1200 people see it, that’s still 200 people who care. Better than doing nothing, isn’t it?

CalamityJaneDoe Sat 24-Apr-21 10:59:46

2 in 12 I meant

RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 26-Apr-21 09:50:54

Macncheeseballs

Had a quick read but still not absolutely sure who it applies to, a bullet point here or there may help

Hello - have a look at the Guest Post here - it lays it all out very clearly (we tried doing potted summaries but there are so many variables that we think it's best you read the expert version!)

Thecatonthemat Mon 26-Apr-21 11:11:26

The Whole bloody thing was discriminatory. If men had had 5 years of contributions arbitrarily removed there would have been riots on the streets. Many other women were told we would be getting a new full rate pension but for many reasons including changing the number of years from 30 to 35 or more, did not. The average womans pension is less than the average male. Therefore discriminatory from the first.

Oldsu Fri 07-May-21 07:05:44

Thecatonthemat

The Whole bloody thing was discriminatory. If men had had 5 years of contributions arbitrarily removed there would have been riots on the streets. Many other women were told we would be getting a new full rate pension but for many reasons including changing the number of years from 30 to 35 or more, did not. The average womans pension is less than the average male. Therefore discriminatory from the first.

Who told women they would get the new flat rate? I get more than that due to working longer than 35 years, but there was nothing to say all women would get it, its based on contributions like the old basic and is about 40 quid higher than the 30 year one.

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