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Week 8 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - Only 3 weeks left!

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BIWI Mon 17-Jun-13 08:08:57

Morning campers.

Come and confess all on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

So only three weeks left. I know that things have been moving quite satisfactorily for some of you, so hopefully these last three weeks can see a few more of those pesky pounds disappear.

I had a bit of an altercation with some sticky toffee pudding this weekend (at the PILs) so I've got my work cut out over the next few days to undo the damage!

Off for a run shortly ...

BIWI Mon 17-Jun-13 08:18:48

herecomesthsun It's an interesting question re dairy and why it should stall weight loss. I think it's probably something to do with the fact that milk contains lactose, which is a sugar.

I'll see what I can find out!

couch25cakes Mon 17-Jun-13 08:20:30

We've had a weekend of parties this weekend so just 1lb off this week for me. I was 3lb down on Saturday morning but it was a good weekend so 1lb is fine. I'd be grateful if someone could put that in the spreadsheet please. That's 10lb in about 4 weeks smile

NewStartNewStory Mon 17-Jun-13 08:20:45

Morning BIWI

Physiologically: dairy contains the sugar lactose

I really do need to find the scales this week. I have put sts into the spreadsheet the last too week because the scales were buried. blush First job of the day: school run.

prettybird Mon 17-Jun-13 08:25:45

Marking place. Still to WI - but only weigh myself after I've done the Shred and completed my ablutions

Had two tiny roast potatoes last night at my dad's - but lots of lovely roast lamb and a few peas and a nice homegrown green salad. He had pre-sugared the strawberries unfortunately - but they were very nice with cream. smile I almost resisted the chocolates with the coffee ok, I gave and had the last one that was just sitting there wink

BIWI Mon 17-Jun-13 08:26:19

Interesting piece here on dairy - looks like one of Bootcamp's rules should be to cut dairy out altogether!

sybilfaulty Mon 17-Jun-13 08:29:34

Thank you for the thread BIWI.

I am afraid I have lost the plot a little. I am in a redundancy situation at work and very stressed. There has been damage, including wine and cocktails. I am still 1lb down though so all is not lost. I will try to do my best on the food this week.

I may swim at lunchtime if work goes well this morning.

Good luck to everyone weighing in today.

TheChocolateTeapot Mon 17-Jun-13 08:31:08

Only 1lb loss for me but only have myself to blame for drinking too much over the weekend. Have had a lightbulb moment though after reading on the last thread that alcohol is a barrier to the loss of fat why has it taken me so long to know this! so I am going to be absolutely alcohol free this week in an attempt to shift a few more lbs. Enjoy the sunshine.

WillieWaggledagger Mon 17-Jun-13 08:31:13

biwi re the lactose that's why i'm always surprised that yoghurt is thought to be better tolerated than cheese/cream, because most cheeses and double cream brands are lower carbs per 100g than yoghurt - and higher fat % too.

from personal experience though too much cream makes me feel gurgly and funny in a way that yoghurt and cheese don't, and if i eat too much dairy i do stall (i don't put on weight, but it doesn't come off), and i don't feel as 'clean'

so i wonder whether it is something to do with the cow's milk protein, which often causes problems in infants i believe?

WillieWaggledagger Mon 17-Jun-13 08:31:57

x-post with the link to the MDA article

WillieWaggledagger Mon 17-Jun-13 08:35:20

must be something in the fermented aspect of yoghurt...

maidofmuss Mon 17-Jun-13 08:39:19

Doh - just posted at bottom of last thread. For those who've may have missed it, Nobody posted a great link (copied below) that tells you your size at different shops when you key in your measurements – worth a look!

BIWI Mon 17-Jun-13 08:46:25

Sorry to hear that, sybil. Try not to resort to emotional eating (and drinking!) as far as you possibly can - ultimately it will only make you feel worse. Easy to say, I know ...

Briffa has an explanation somewhere about yoghurt, Willie. I'll see if I can find it.

BIWI Mon 17-Jun-13 08:48:25

Here we go - this is from Dr Briffa's blog:

"Some of my relative enthusiasm for yoghurt comes from the fact that, in practice, this food is generally less likely than milk and cheese to pose problems due to food intolerance. Dairy products such as milk and cheese are rich in proteins that can be quite difficult to digest, and may make their way into the body in partially digested form where they may trigger a variety of health issues including sinus congestion, asthma and eczema. Because yoghurt and milk are essentially the same food, one might expect that they have a similar capacity to induce food intolerant reactions. However, studies show that the bacteria deployed in the fermentation process that converts milk into yoghurt aid and abet the digestion of milk proteins. The pre-digestion of protein by bacteria help to explain why, compared to milk and cheese, yoghurt is less likely trigger unwanted reactions.

Apart from protein, another component of dairy products that some individuals may have difficult digesting is the sugar lactose. This problem – known as lactose intolerance – is relatively rare in individuals of Northern European decent, but is very common in those of Southern European, Asian, Afro-Caribbean and South American stock. Individuals affected by lactose intolerance are prone to symptoms such as bloating, diarrhoea and gas after consuming milk (which is rich in lactose). However, some strains of bacteria used in the making of yoghurt have lactose-digesting ability, and this is reflected in the fact that yoghurt contains less lactose than milk. As a result, those who struggle to digest lactose generally find they tolerate yoghurt better than the liquid from which it is derived.

In addition to helping the digestibility of dairy, studies suggest that the organisms found in ‘live’ and ‘bio’ yoghurts have the potential to help alleviate gut-related issues such as constipation and diarrhoea. These beneficial bugs are also seem to help keep the gut free from unwanted organisms including those responsible for food poisoning and the bacterium Helicobacter pylori (the bug now recognised as a common underlying factor in digestive conditions such as stomach and duodenal ulcers, stomach inflammation and stomach cancer)."

captainmummy Mon 17-Jun-13 08:48:42

Interesting article BIWI - i have cut out yoghurt now, as I can eat a 1000g Lidls tub in 2 goes! I don;t drink milk either, apart from a couple of coffees at work (where i can't bring in cream and I wont drink it black), but I'm STS .

BIWI Mon 17-Jun-13 08:48:58

Whether or not yoghurt impedes weight loss may be a different matter, of course!

daisychicken Mon 17-Jun-13 08:58:44

I've decided to cut out yoghurt..... I haven't weighed myself today but I'm convinced that initial loss was just water (& maybe faulty measurement) but my tum seems even bigger & I don't feel I have lost weight (scales or inches) - I had to stay at the 20g or less level for a long time previously and I think the yog isn't helping...... sad

BIWI Mon 17-Jun-13 09:00:02

daisychicken - list out for me your meals over the last few days - see if there is anything else we can spot

You say you don't feel you've lost weight - but have you actually weighed/measured?

VikingLady Mon 17-Jun-13 09:01:48

Interesting about the dairy - maybe I need to cut down/eliminate that too, since I am barely losing anything now! I did try making yoghurt last night but this morning it was all mucus-y. Fairly sure that isn't right!

BIWI Mon 17-Jun-13 09:05:56

You know, the best and most sustainable weight loss is slow and steady. 1-2lbs a week is perfectly good

It's a bit of a myth that low carbing leads to huge and regular losses. It's certainly true in the first two weeks, because as well as the water weight that you lose (which will happen on any diet), you also lose your glycogen stores.

The more weight you have to lose, you are likely to lose a little bit more. daisychicken you don't have a massive amount of weight to lose, so you're not suddenly going to drop half a stone in a week!

Best advice I can give you is to stand back and look at your progress over a longer period of time; stop focussing on the week-by-week losses. (I know it's hard to do that, when we're doing a week-by-week thing!)

WillieWaggledagger Mon 17-Jun-13 09:15:52

thanks for looking that up biwi, so it is the fermentation aspect that makes the difference

so it looks like yoghurt is less likely to cause stalls through being a dairy product, but more likely to cause stalls due to (like milk) being relatively higher carb and lower fat than other dairy products (e.g. cream and cheese) so could contribute to carb creep

AngieAir Mon 17-Jun-13 09:34:21

Oh dear Lord, I've weighed myself and I've put on 3lbs. I could cry, especially as a lot of my food was out of my control for a couple of weeks and I felt rubbish with a sore tummy and now I've gained too.

My measurements haven't increased but I'm so disappointed. Hopefully it is just water weight or something as I didn't make a pig of myself.

However, I will carry on with this WOE because I feel so much better on it. And I appreciate all the support and inspiration on these threads.

Today's plan:

B: coffee with cream, 2 rashers bacon
L: asparagus & egg, salad with oil & vinegar
D: cauliflower, chicken thighs with skin & mayo

berryfreeze Mon 17-Jun-13 09:43:01

Morning all[ smile]
Marking place have STS this week but TOTM, so hoping it is just a bit of extra water.
No sugary/ choc cravings,more like cheese and salty foods, so am cutting out diary for next few days, and see how I go.

WillieWaggledagger Mon 17-Jun-13 09:46:13

angie don't fret, 3lb is nothing if you've been off-plan for a bit - it can easily be up to (or beyond) 14lb for some people. most of it will be your glycogen stores replenishing, especially as your measurements haven't changed. plenty of water and stick to bootcamp and it should come off quickly.

NewStartNewStory Mon 17-Jun-13 09:50:39

Very interesting because i can tollerate cheese but yoghurt, milk and cream in quantity do unspeakable things to my digestive system. But yet cheese requires a rather significant quantity before that happens. A fact i am eternally grateful for. That said i shouldn't be eating any cheese either. blush

daisy is it possible that you have lost weight but from other areas more then the tum so it feels like you haven't got a bigger tum but actually the whole of you has shrunk and the tum not just as much as the rest?

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