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"It should punch you round the face, with a little kiss after", oh you reckon, Jamie Oliver?

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Katiekitty · 29/11/2012 18:39

"It should punch you round the face, with a little kiss after"

Jamie Oliver's BBQ sauce recipe.

Fuck off Jamie.

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mignonette · 29/11/2012 18:40

Oh God no. Where there really no people with their brains switched on at the product development meet?

EverythingsDozy · 29/11/2012 18:41

I wondered where my BBQ sauce was going wrong. My local asda were out of punches round the face...

peasabovesticks · 29/11/2012 18:41

That is a very unfortunate turn of phrase Hmm

StrawberrytallCAKE · 29/11/2012 18:42

I love Jamie but this series is making him look a right tit, what happened???

Rachog · 29/11/2012 18:44

I like this series but agree that was a stupid thing to say. Much prefer Jamie to Nigella and the crap she comes out with.

mignonette · 29/11/2012 18:45

Speaking as one who was once with a 'man' who used to hit then kiss, I just cannot remove my cats bum face at this silliness....

puds11 · 29/11/2012 18:46

You are kidding me!!!! Where was this said? I had a guy tell me a domestic violence 'joke' the other day. Needless to say i was not amused.

Katiekitty · 29/11/2012 18:48

puds He just said it on his C4 15 Minute Recipes programme tonight.

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puds11 · 29/11/2012 18:51

Thanks Katie i haven't seen it, and think i might avoid it now.

realcoalfire · 29/11/2012 19:14

I think you need to stop taking everything so literally.He is describing a strong flavour with a sweet after-note, not telling male viewers to beat up their wives

mignonette · 29/11/2012 19:22

No of course he is not 'telling people' to beat up their wives'.....But it is imagery loaded with offensiveness.

FermezLaBouche · 29/11/2012 19:25

God he's a bloody idiot, isn't he? He's just....dim! What a stupid turn of phrase.

KittyFane1 · 29/11/2012 19:30

I'll translate.
He was talking about Food
A punch in the face > punchy flavour that hits you when you take a bite.
Little kiss afterwards > sweet, subtle taste afterwards.

Domestic violence? You have got to be joking. The context in which it was said makes the meaning obvious. Why insist on taking it out of context/ taking it literally?

mignonette · 29/11/2012 19:33

I do not need you to translate. The context is not relevant here. The analogy is not uncommon in DV.

TwitchyTail · 29/11/2012 19:33

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KittyFane1 · 29/11/2012 19:38

mignonette Of course the context is important.
It's just an expression. "It punched me in the stomach"
Not literally obviously.

larks35 · 29/11/2012 19:40

KittyFane1 - "Domestic violence? You have got to be joking. The context in which it was said makes the meaning obvious. Why insist on taking it out of context/ taking it literally?"

I totally agree, I do think if you look hard enough you can take offense at almost anything anyone says and if people try too hard to avoid giving offense we would live in a very boring society.

However, what come's out of Jamie's mouth at the best of times is a load of old twaddle. His recipes are good but I can't stand his TV persona.

Katiekitty · 29/11/2012 19:41

Well, realcoal and Kittyfane, I've racked my brains and I can't think of any other instance where one might dish out a punch, followed by a kiss.

What he said has distinct DV connotations, like it or not.

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larks35 · 29/11/2012 19:43

Greg whatsit on MasterChef uses those sort of expressions too, I think he does to hide the fact that he doesn't really know that much about being a chef.

zookeeper · 29/11/2012 19:44

Of course it has domestic violence connotations. Not funny at all.

Katiekitty · 29/11/2012 19:45

Kittyfane you said: It's just an expression. "It punched me in the stomach"

And would you follow that up with "It kissed me in the stomach"?

Never heard that saying before.

Where else might a punch be follwowed by a kiss?

To my mind, DV.

Sorry you don't like the connotations of what Jamie Oliver said.

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mignonette · 29/11/2012 19:45

Still racking my brains too, Katie....Must have been those punches/Kisses that addled it.

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mignonette · 29/11/2012 19:46

JO can't help being too dim to understand the connotations................

MmeLindor · 29/11/2012 19:49

Jamie Oliver uses lots of colourful phrases and imagery. This one definitely is loaded with DV connotations.

The language used in everyday situations is important, as it creates a culture where telling 'jokes' about giving the wife a slap if she doesn't have the dinner on the table is seen as acceptable.

It normalises domestic violence.

KittyFane1 · 29/11/2012 19:53

Katiekitty

The phrase he used came from the word Punchy. Having an immediate impact; forceful. For example chilli would be described as 'punchy'.

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