To think that this woman is a greedy bitch?

[TheHairyDieter]

Greedy Bitch here

I believe that state handouts should be for people who genuinely need them. There is just not enough money to go around without giving them to people who are well-off. If Child Benefit was means tested, people on low incomes could be given more. That might be enough to get them off the dole and into work.

Honestly, this article had me seething. I hate greed

[brrbrrwinteriscoming]

I hate having to give my hard earned money away to scroungers! so yes in my opinion yabu.

[safflower]

How would taking the wealthier womans child benefit away and giving it to a low income person 'be enough to get them off the dole and into work'?

I dont understand. and actually i think yabu.

[nellyjelly]

There is something to be said for a universal benefit for all parents but whilst the Govt is slashing means tested benefits to genuinely poor people, it is not sustainable and I can accept that.

Very ironic that the DM carries this article, given it's hatred of people on benefits as a rule. Clearly benefits are OK if you rich.

Hard to feel sympathy for the woman ini the article.

[safflower]

I am still wondering how giving more to those on the 'dole'as the OP says will encourage anyone back into work. Giving more money to stay at home

Expect this thread will kick off big time as the day goes on.

[TheHairyDieter]

I hate having to give my hard earned money away to scroungers!

But isn't she just as much of a 'scrounger' than someone on a lower income?

I am still wondering how giving more to those on the 'dole'as the OP says will encourage anyone back into work.

Because the extra benefit could make the difference between being able to work and pay childcare, rather than be stuck in the benefits trap. So many single parents for instance, would rather be working than on benefits.

[PetiteRaleuse]

Yabu for referring to her as a bitch in your op. Pretty much invalidates what you have to say next. Sorry.

[brrbrrwinteriscoming]

Tad ironic that the op says that she hates 'greed' and that 'people on low incomes could be given more' [hhmm]

I am betting that she is one of those low income households that hates the greed from us high earning households!

[Inertia]

The thing that annoys me most about the child benefit cuts is that the government are banging on about how unreasonable it is for poorer families to pay taxes to fund CB for better-off families - which is fair enough, if the money saved was to be passed on to the families that needed it more. However, there is no evidence that this money is actually going to support the less well off - their CB isn't increasing, other vital services and benefits are being cut.

[TheHairyDieter]

I am betting that she is one of those low income households that hates the greed from us high earning households!

No brrbrrwinteriscoming, actually our household income is considerably more than that of the family in the article, and we live overseas at the moment, so no vested interest.

I just happen to think that we should look out for people worse off than ourselves.

[brrbrrwinteriscoming]

well i happen to think that we work hard enough for our money without having to give almost half of it to the bloody gov.

I think that most, not all, people worse off then ourselves should go and get a sodding job and not have children until they can actually afford to do so without needing any type of benefit.

[TheHairyDieter]

brrbrrwinteriscoming, your naivety is breathtaking.

[WofflingOn]

Unusual to have accusations of greed from the other end of the scale, but OIP, YABU. Child benefit was originally designed to give mother's some autonomy from heir husband's income so that they could provide for their children. It is possible to be married to a wealthy man who is very tight-fisted and controlling, and the extra £100 a month paid to the mother can have a real impact.
If CB were means-tested in the future, that is a different scenario. She isn't greedy because she only took what she was entitled to. Not more.

[brrbrrwinteriscoming]

well we are all entitled to our opinions.

[WofflingOn]

Where did that random apostrophe come from? Apologies!

[MrsCampbellBlack]

We'll lose our CB well - but I still think its unfair because of the reason mentioned on here lots, ie, that its not done on household income.

[TheHairyDieter]

WofflingOn, she is greedy for suggesting that CB should not be means-tested.

Definition of greedy: "grasping, rapacious, selfish". I'd say that was a pretty apt description of someone on >100k per year wanting to take even more money from the public purse, at the expense of those less fortunate.

[WofflingOn]

The same arguments are levelled at individuals at the other end of the line.
If you agree with means-testing, do you also agree to CB only being given for the first two children? After that, you pay your own way?

[TheHairyDieter]

I think it's academic, because any shortfall in CB would be made up with other benefits, for those at the bottom of the scale.

[WofflingOn]

For how much longer though? Everything seems up in the air at the moment and the general attitude from government seems unsympathetic towards the low -incomed and unemployed. Their definition of your 'state handouts should be for people who genuinely need them' seems very narrow.

[ModernToss]

This is just the Daily Mail trolling for clicks, as usual (see also Brick et al).

Ignore it.

[Greythorne]

that article is unbelievable

[Diddydollydo]

brrbrrwinteriscoming what about those of use who waited to have children when they could afford them then find themselves redundant and with a husband who has left to be with his OW leaving us with nothing?

[yellowsubmarine53]

I don't think she's a 'greedy bitch' and actually think that's a horrible turn of phrase.

I do think she's a bit thick and crap at writing and am shocked that she earns £50,000 as journo.

The fundamental prejudices of the CB cuts is the discrimination towards single parents, and the discrepancies that one household of two people both earning £98,000 will keep their benefit whilst another sole earner of £60,000 will lose it all.

[SunflowersSmile]

It should be bases on household income.

However, I feel the cut off point maybe should be round the time people say they can afford to put all CB in accounts/savings for their children rather than 'need' to use it for food/ clothes/ nappies etc. Perhaps these people don't 'need' the benefit.