Ambulance social services referal

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My 4 year old bumped his head (not hard, just fell off the low sofa onto the carpet, didn't cry or get upset) I didn't think much of it because he didn't seem hurt and it was fairly uneventful, this was just before nursery so I sent him in.
Nursery phoned an hour later to say he's really sleepy and not eating.
So I picked him up, he was still really groggy so I then called 111 for advice, incase it was related to bumping his head. They sent an ambulance to check him over.
Between this time he developed a fever, no signs of head injury. Said to go to GP with urine sample because they couldn't find the source of his temperature. Said it was probably just a virus though.
4 year old explained it all to them what had happened. The paramedic was really nice and said o should be proud of both kids because they were very bright and polite boys.

So the next day he went to his dads. I explained this all to him obviously and also mentioned to him that D's had no gone for a wee that morning and to keep an eye because the paramedics said about it being a problem if they don't wee for 12 hours.
That afternoon their sad called and said DS still wasn't well. I asked about him seeing and he told me he hadn't gone all day so I said best to phone 111 as that would have been about 14 hours since he last went.

For some reason his dad phoned 111 saying he had a head injury (he didn't)and was drowsy (he was sleepy but because of the fever/virus)

They sent an ambulance to his house.
I don't know whats happened but today I got a phone call saying that the ambulance service that attended their dads house had referred our son to social services because his dad have inconsistent details about what had happened.

Their dad has had previous SS involvement before with his child. And i had a brief involvement with them years ago because their dad (when we were together) pushed me in the street on a night out and someone called the police. SS we're happy that it was just a drunk arguement and closed the case after a chat. We haven't been together for years.

Should I be concerned!?
What is likely to happen?
I'm worried both about social services being involved and also more so about why the ambulance referred him I've never been to his house so I have no idea what it's like or if its dirty or something.

The social worker just asked what happened and I explained, I livee in a different borough to their dad so she said shed inform children's services in my borough and DS lives with me and I might get a call from them too and I have her their dads number so he could call too.

I feel sick about this I have really bad social anxiety so god knows how I come across to them.
My kids are very well looked after and their school and nursery etc can vouch for me on that atleast.

Has anyone ever had similar happen? It's really.worrying me, I didn't expect a call from a social worker at all!

From what you've described they're doing due diligence and it's unlikely things will progress any further.

So 111 sent two ambulances on two consecutive days out for your child and on both occasions they were informed he had a head injury?

What happened with the urine sample and the GP visit? Did he get any further treatment? Is he ok now?

What were the inconsistencies in how the head injury was explained by each parent?

Yeah, but I don't know my their dad was calling about him hitting his head when the concern Saturday was more the dehydration I suggested he called 111 for an OOH gp appointment after he told me he hadn't done a wee all day, so no idea how or why they ended up sending an ambulance. Ex is very much an entitled twat though and I can imagine him purposely answering the questions to get them to send an ambulance because he's too lazy to drive to OOH or a&e.
His urine didn't have any signs of infection. The GP surgery wouldn't give me an appointment, but as the paramedics said there's no sign of a head injury and he had a fever etc it seemed obviously a virus. He's ok now but he's got a bad cough now.
He saw a Dr at hospital (on Saturday the paramedics said to take him because of the not weeing) Who said just a virus.
He didn't even have a head Injury, the sofa is not much more than a foot off the ground he just bumped his head

I've phoned ex and as far as I can tell, he told 111 that he had hit his head, that he didn't know how he hit his head (I explained on detail!) He didn't know when, or how bad (I told him! Both on the day and the morning he picked DS up) then he said to the paramedics that he'd hit his head at nursery (he didn't).
At a&e he was booked in as head injury and ex said to them no he doesn't have a head injury.
Confusing. I asked him why he didn't know what happened when I'd told him exactly what had happened and he said because he was tired (hungover as he'd been out all night )
I don't particularly rate him as a parent but I'm confident he wouldn't ever hurt them or anything like that.

Sounds like you're more worried about the SS involvement than the fact a grown man can't remember what has happened with your child and said child is still not right.

You said dc didn't have a head injury yet you begin your post telling us about the fall.
Why didn't you take him to A&E when nursery called you to collect him and he was groggy?
Your dc wasn't well but rather than keep an eye on them at home you pass him on to his Dad who you don't think is a particularly good parent.
You seem more worried about SS and something doesn't seem right.

No I am worried about that. They don't stay overnight at his house,so they see him for a maximum of 8 hours at a time. I just don't have it in me to be angry about that anymore, he's never going to bother to properly involve himself bit he wouldn't hurt them.
If I thought for a second that DS had any head injury symptoms I would have kept him home because his dad is an idiot that doesn't take anything seriously.
It's just that I'm used to their dad being useless. It a phonecall from a social worker was a shock to me

You need to try to remain calm OP, they’re just doing their job and I’m sure they will come to the right conclusions. I understand your worry but it will be ok.

Spied- I didn't take him to a&e because I don't drive and a&e is in the next town and I had to pick up my eldest DS from school. He didn't need a&e even the paramedics said that.
I explained about the fall in the post because it's quite an important detail.
I told nursery about him bumping his head, they're the ones who advised me to call 111 to see if I could get a gp appointment.
I don't get what's not adding up? I'm happy to clarify anything I do have anxiety so tend to panic about situations like social workers phoning me and can't articulate myself well all the time in writing.

Social worker will be working in the best interests of your ds.
Try and see it as comforting that there are people who are looking out for you and your child OP.

Sunshine- he isn't "not right" he's fine. He has a bad cough but he's asthmatic and always gets a bad cough with a virus. He's been running around, playing etc and his usual self now that the fever has gone. He's been seen by medical professionals. What else can I do for what is basically just a typical virus?

Look at it from the point of view of the second ambulance crew. They are presented with a poorly child and a blurry story about a head injury from a parent who doesn’t have them overnight. I am pretty sure they were just being careful and doing their job, just in case. SS then called you to check, just in case. If there is a problem it will be with their father, not with you, from what you’ve said.

Op and with a head injury you can never know what going on so you did the right thing and it sounds like a coincidence with the virus.

The main thing is he is OK my goodness my dh never says the same things as me! And we live together he will never mention important details and I certainly do!

I'm sure it will all be dropped but I'm glad they are picking things up imagine how many horrors will get picked up if staff were a little more inquiring.

When my dd had what sounded like croup, ambulance came and after dd seemed OK dd said mummy I want some special fizzy juice.

The tone of the ambulance lady "so err mum, what sort of special fizzy juice is that then?"!!

Of course a referral should have been made. 2 ambulance call outs for head injuries in 2 days. No further information needed. The referral is more than justified.

Try not to panic. SS got involved with my DS's father and they came to speak to me about it all. I was terrified and horrified, but honestly the social worker was amazing. I won't go into details with what happened concerning DS's father, but for my part Social Services interviewed me, checked the house and were very reassuring. Said I was clearly a great mum and it went on the final file that they were satisfied for my part that I'm a diligent & attentive mother, have a happy loving relationship with son etc. Their job at the end of the day is to ensure your child is safe, so as long as your a good mum to him and have his wellbeing at heart you will have nothing to worry about Good luck, stay calm! Your a good mum & they will see that!

Honestly they'll just be doing checks and things. If they were really worried they would've sent a police officer to do a welfare check. Take a breath. It's going to be OK. Just answer any questions they have.

I hate to be ‘that’ poster but have you got him a coronavirus test? The temperature and cough warrant it.
The last thing you need is for social services to ask you that and you haven’t/didn’t.

Thank you i wish I knew if they were even going to call again etc because I'm just going to be on edge waiting to see if they do!
Yep he has had a negative covid test

I can see why SS would be informed if there were two ambulance call outs in two days and really vague information about your DC injuries. I'm also a bit concerned about your exDP taking your child to a&e and claiming not to know about something you had already told him. I'm projecting here because this is exactly what happened to me, but is he trying to get you in to trouble or make out that you're not caring for your DC properly? It just seems really strange that he's giving such contradictory information.