Anne Hathaway trans

[thekeep]

Can someone please tell me what is going on?

All over her Instagram it is flooded with trans stuff (fine) but it seems to be reaction to some sort of apology to the trans community?


Can anyone tell me what has happened?


I can't make head or tail of it?


I figure someone on this board will be able to explain it to me

[CuriousaboutSamphire]

that's Black Matter Lives Oh fuck off. I'm trying to work here!

[bishopgiggles]

I'm expecting a press release from CERN any day now, confirming this.

Think you're confused... that's Black Matter Lives

[Ameanstreakamilewide]

@Ereshkigalangcleg

I'm expecting a press release from CERN any day now, confirming this.

If I don't make daft jokes about this subject (as a whole) i might just cry!

This is my coping mechanism.

[Ereshkigalangcleg]

I'm expecting a press release from CERN any day now, confirming this.

[Ameanstreakamilewide]

@thehumanformerlyknownasfemale

I don't get the 'Black Trans Lives Matter'. Of course they do, or is the statement ''Black Lives Matter'' not inclusive enough? Black trans people are black people, no?

Yes, but they're at the centre of the bloody universe, aren't they?

I'm expecting a press release from CERN any day now, confirming this.

[SunsetBeetch]

@DianasLasso

That was the one, nauticant - Neville Southall and the adult babies. You couldn't make that level of stupid up.

Yes and previous to that, he let a TRA take over his account, who talked total rubbish, including about the attack at Speaker's Corner

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3315257-Neville-Southalls-twitter-account

[Sarahandco]

I would say that a serious complaint should be made that that t-shirt is discriminatory against CIS people. But I decided it is best to just to pretend I have no idea what CIS means or that I ever googled it.

[JaneJeffer]

I'll be glad when the aliens arrive.

[Griefmonster]

@ChristmasKitties what do you mean, what do I think about a description of women? Completely uncontroversial.

I have limited time to spend on this fight and this incident with AH has zero red flags for me.

[LemonadeAndDaisyChains]

Bloody hell, I also opened this thinking it was going to be about Shakespeare's wife as well
Glad I'm not the only one lol

[ChristmasKitties]

Interesting take on the T-shirt Grief

What do you make of stickers and T-shirt’s which say woman - adult human female ?

[Clymene]

I can only see the photo and nothing written under it. And another link with so done calling Hathaway out for not crediting someone and, instead of just crediting them, apologising by giving them her insta.

So I stand by my previous posts. No capitulation will ever be enough.

[Griefmonster]

By which I mean - I am willing to defend a trans woman's right to fight for her rights as a trans woman. Just not as a woman.

[Griefmonster]

@Clymene did you read the post under the photo? It was about being used as a token trans person to "educate" people on the trans experience.

The t-shirt is a provocation I can see that, but it's provoking establishments that aren't taking responsibility for their duty of care.

I'm not seeing an attack on women here. This looks very like a trans woman doing exactly what we talk about - protecting TRANS rights.

[SerenityNowwwww]

More jaw dropping is the child’s real life mum. Her attitudes are positively eye popping.

[Fanthorpe]

Sorry, trans girl.

[Fanthorpe]

That Netflix ad about the trans boy called Bailey is just jaw dropping.

The bit in the hospital was particularly terrible. I was just imaging the dr coming back in and examining her for stomach pain and diagnosing testicular torsion.

[Clymene]

Or is it just ... I don't know where Ireland came from!

[Clymene]

And do we see any men doing this shit? Ireland s it just women who have to apologise for being white?

[Clymene]

She apologised by giving her insta to a person who publicly says they hate her. Not because of anything she's done but because she's a woman.

I don't care if the person wearing the T-shirt is black, those are some fucked up dynamics.

[Griefmonster]

@ThatsHowWeRowl - thanks for that pointer to twitter. I still can't really see the problem? This isn't woman bringing over backwards to appease TRAs - this seems much more an attribution issue which is really fraught in the context of structural racism and power dynamics. Powerful white woman uses her platform to show someone else's creative work and doesn't attribute it. This is pointed out and she apologises and makes amends by giving the creator her platform for a week.

In creative industries and activism attribution really matters. Any responsible person with a social conscience would do the same. I have no problem with this.

This doesn't feel like a battle of women's rights at all. But I have said this before and Ben shown a fresh perspective on this board.

Where's the issue with this for women?

[Clymene]

It's pretty fucking weird to give your insta account to someone who wears a T-shirt saying they hate you @Griefmonster.

The abject apologies won't be enough. Wearing a hair shirt won't be enough. Walking along the street beating yourself shouting Mea Culpa won't be enough.

Nothing will be enough until women totally capitulate

[ThatsHowWeRowl]

@Griefmonster

I just took a look at AH Instagram. It doesn't look like she's atoning for anything. She has hosted a week long "take over" of her insta page by a black a tivist. She chose a black trans activist. A number of white people with large social media platforms have done the same.

The trans woman actually says in one of her posts - "I don't care if you think I'm a woman" and (paraphrasing) I only care if you are celebrating my body being met with violence and then complaining when that violence lands at your door.

Part of the problem of some GC feminists finding common cause with fundamentalist Christians and other hard right etc is that there are some in that "broad church" who really do want to erase trans women. Whereas I "just" want them to embrace their transness and protect their rights as TRANS rights (not women's rights).

The reaction to this takeover on this thread shows a certain intolerance I feel - seeking evidence for thought crimes as if the only reason AH would lend her platform to a trans woman is because she has to atone. Not because she may feel that trans people in the states are vulnerable under the Trump presidency.

You can see the talk of 'atoning' on Insta here and it is also referenced in the twitter link upthread. Something very obviously happened, and from the twitter link it seems she hadn't tagged people in a post

[ThatsHowWeRowl]

Well Holy shit, thanks to Nauticants post I have just spent the last half hour down a rabbit hole.

Firstly the adult babies, really wish I hadn't clicked on some of those accounts, eeeeeek! Neville Southall is a strange one isnt he? I find it very odd some of the things he is so invested in?

And then the Netflix thing? Firstly that TRA they got to do the takeover.... That's a whole lot of nope right there!

And I know there had been a thread on here about The Babysitters Club but I hadn't seen any clips. What the actual fuck is that? Little boy who is head to toe in pink and sparkles is actually a girl?

And then the episode in the hospital? 'If you had looked at her rather than at her chart, Bailey is not a boy' - seriously?

And then the absolute kicker: 'If at all possible could you find me a non blue hospital gown' - whaaaaaat?!

How did we get here? I want to cry.

[DianasLasso]

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Yes the Netflix one is shocking.

Fuck! Please tell me I don't have to boycott Netflix too.

Before I know it I'll be reduced to making my own entertainment by knitting by the fire... oh, hang on a moment, knitting got consumed by a purity spiral too.



The infuriating thing is that complete brain-dead fuckwits in one bit of Netflix can do this, while other people within Netflix commission documentaries like Athlete A (which I've just finished watching, and I'm in bits - very, very powerful, upsetting, and ultimately uplifting because of the huge female solidarity of the survivors, the female prosecutor and the female judge).