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What's your number 1 feminist ishoo?

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ladyblablah · 06/11/2014 10:25

I know there are so many, but which is the one that gets your goat

Mine is women wasting their lives, careers, self esteem and potential in shit marriages with shit men.

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BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 06/11/2014 16:23

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msrisotto · 06/11/2014 16:33

For me, it is about control of women's bodies, so this includes abortion rights, pregnancy rules (see that thread on Foetal Alcohol Syndrome) and a general sense of entitlement over women's sexual availability in any situation. Basic human rights IMO.

It is nice to see that everyone has a different focus though, covering all bases and that.

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JugglingFromHereToThere · 06/11/2014 16:54

Interpersonal behaviour within relationships with men and the abusive elements of relationships which affect so many.

Lots of other issues too clearly, but this most basic level is perhaps also key to much else that needs changing.

I guess it's about respect and then equality.

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TunipTheUnconquerable · 06/11/2014 16:59

What Basgetti said: Male violence against women and the widespread reluctance to notice there's a pattern to it.

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BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 06/11/2014 17:12

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almondcakes · 06/11/2014 17:38

Jenny, I am very sorry to hear about the situation with your daughter. It must be incredibly upsetting for you.

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BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 06/11/2014 18:05

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Morrigu · 06/11/2014 18:27

At the moment after listening to the rubbish our newly appointed health minister in Northern Ireland was spouting on a radio interview, abortion rights. It enrages and sickens me that this man believes women shouldn't have the option of abortion even if a woman is raped, as he says, should carry the child to give it up for adoption when born. Some health minister not considering the mental health of the consequences of this.

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scallopsrgreat · 06/11/2014 19:33

Or physical health either Morrigu. Another man telling women what they should be doing. Bodily autonomy - massive issue.

I agree with basghetti word for word but it's really positive that so many other issues are being focused on. The personal is definitely the political.

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AnyFucker · 06/11/2014 19:36

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AnyFucker · 06/11/2014 19:36

Erm

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AnyFucker · 06/11/2014 19:36

Lemme see

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AnyFucker · 06/11/2014 19:36

Scratches head

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Violetcloud · 06/11/2014 19:37

The fact that so many people don't see/ refuse to accept that the things mentioned here, and the many more issues facing women even exist.

It seems to be commonly accepted that we women have it so good now, apart from those 'few cases' in 'backwards countries' Hmm

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AnyFucker · 06/11/2014 19:37

Nope, can't do it

Can't think of just one

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Zazzles007 · 06/11/2014 19:48

Damsili, Petula is a long-term poster in FWR, and the last thing that any of us posters who post here regularly would say about her is that she is difficult. You on the other hand... Petula has made a perfectly reasonable request of you, why do need to call such a reasonable request 'difficult'? And if you see her post as problematic and difficult, do you feel it would be difficult for you personally to comply? Why is it difficult for you to comply with a perfectly reasonable request? I suggest that you have a deeper think about the questions I have posed. The other thing is, why do you need to come on a thread and go against the grain of the thread with your posts? Do you realise that you are doing this, and then when someone points it out, you say "You're stifling me"? Is there some sort of need for attention that you are trying to fulfil? Please have a think about these questions.

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CaptainJaneSafeway · 06/11/2014 19:49

Totally agree Violet. I was talking to a friend's DH about some news story and he was coming over as so shocked that "over there women are second-class citizens!" (even though I know him to be pretty sexist himself Hmm)

I said (not in an aggressive way, just reasonably) "But women are second-class citizens in this country too." He simply wouldn't have any of it, even when I pointed out the statistics on pay, DV etc.

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DaMoves · 06/11/2014 20:03

Equal pay.

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micah · 06/11/2014 20:17

The Mr/Mrs/Ms thing reminded me...

I have a PhD, and my title is Dr. Easy jet have an option for Dr title when you book the flight.

When I checked in I was given a telling off for using Dr, as how were they to know I was female, and that would upset their passenger, and therefore weight, distribution.

It was busy so I didn't question it at the time, but thinking about it-

Are they assuming all dr's are male, and of male weight? Apart from being horrifically sexist, If it's that important to them, don't offer non gendered titles, or ask which sex when booking.

What happens if I'd pitched up as a 9 stone male or a 15 st female? You can't predict gender by weight...if the sex of a passenger is that important to weight distribution, surely they should ask for a weight range on booking..

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AnnieLobeseder · 06/11/2014 20:29

That is pretty appalling, Micah. The assumption that anyone with the title Dr is fairly universally assumed to be male outside actual medial practice or academia. Considering how many female MDs and PhDs there are now, it's a rather outdated assumption to make!

Their weight distribution thing is bollocks anyway, people move around. We flew to France last week, and they had us in one row of three, and then one seat in the middle of the opposite row. Fine, except that they'd put on of the DDs in that row. Why on earth do they thing any sane parent would put their small child (mine are 6 and 9) to sit between two random strangers. So of course DH sat there instead and the DDs sat either side of me.

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ApocalypseThen · 06/11/2014 20:30

Just thd routine fence gratin of women as a class. Nothing women do or say is really taken seriously. Except when it can be used to curtail women's rights, of course. Then it's an issue.

Like the whole drinking in pregnancy foolishness. You can tell how few people see women as anything other than mobile wombs.

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ApocalypseThen · 06/11/2014 20:31

By "fence gratin", I do of course mean denigration. I could suggest an auto check conspiracy...

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AnnieLobeseder · 06/11/2014 20:32

I was wondering, Apocalypse. I was torn between it being an autocorrect I couldn't figure out, some weird Latin phrase or just an interesting concoction of cheese melted over a garden fence you were having for dinner!

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BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 06/11/2014 20:34

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PuffinsAreFicticious · 06/11/2014 20:38

I rather like the idea of fence gratin Grin

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