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BBC Sports Personality of the Year

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AlwaysWild · 29/11/2011 18:52

As you might already be aware, the BBC Sports Personality of the Year has no women in the shortlist.

What you might not know, is the breakdown of which media nominated who and that Nuts and Zoo were part of the process link here Angry

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AlwaysWild · 01/12/2011 19:59

Didn't see that coming!

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EdithWeston · 01/12/2011 14:35
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HandDivedScallopsrgreat · 01/12/2011 12:56

The point is that we have managed to list several female World Champions in a whole variety of sports and yet the two people at the top of the shortlist are golfers. I mean golf = sport? Pastime maybe but it hardly involves strenuous activity as can be seen by the beer bellies of Messrs Clarke and Westwood et al!
Male dominated sports get more coverage. I get the DT and always read the sports section (which is about 12 pgs normally) if 1 page of that talks about the women in sport then it is a good day. That is how under represented women athletes are in the media.

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maybenow · 30/11/2011 19:58

i am disgusted by teh whole thing

but i have to admit that i'm torn between cav and mo farrah for the winner... even before the shortlist was announced... but that's not the point!

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LineRunnerSolsticeLover · 30/11/2011 16:19

My dad knows Mark Cavendish and says he's brilliant. Smile

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bemybebe · 30/11/2011 14:26

Hahahahaha Grin

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JosieRosie · 30/11/2011 14:15

That's brilliant slug, he sounds terribly dashing Hmm

'strangely flapping cuffs'

The cornerstone of any fashionable outfit! Grin

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slug · 30/11/2011 14:12

I shall retire from this conversation before outed...except to leve you with this tidbit.

Mr Ferrari has a strange habit of wearing trousers that end just short of his ankle. Of an evening, when stggering home, I often pass him as he is dressed up to go to some meeja do. I will walk past him and his strangely flapping cuffs and follow the overpowering trail of his aftershave scent all the way back to his house.

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JosieRosie · 30/11/2011 13:59

Tee hee slug, yes he does bang on about Blackheath a lot now you mention it. PM me if you have any more goss Wink

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bemybebe · 30/11/2011 13:56

"His (now ex) wife is really lovely."

Now, how is it possible that a person that married that man (unless under duress) is "lovely". Wink

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slug · 30/11/2011 13:53

Well, for a start, you know how he makes a fuss about how he lives in Blackheath? He doesn't. He lives in Lewisham (much less impressive)

The running joke in the neighbourhood was when Nick pulled out of running for the Conservative candidacy for London Mayor, it was because he found out he would have to disclose his home address.

His (now ex) wife is really lovely.

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sportsfanatic · 30/11/2011 13:48

Even the Daily Torygraph, not renowned for its feminism, thinks it's a poor show.

www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/8924273/Sports-Personality-of-the-Year-does-anyone-care-about-Britains-female-sports-icons.html

But you can't expect Zoo and Nuts to vote for any women: after all I doubt any sportswomen would have tits big enough ....Wink

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bemybebe · 30/11/2011 13:47

"What gets me is that it sounds like Nuts and Zoo have been involved in the BBC's selection process since 2006.

And there has been no controversy."

WhollyGhost 100% on this. BBC is loosing their marbles I am convinced. I caught up on Andrew Marr Show yesterday (I know, a bit late, but I like it) and who is reviewing the papers??? MAX fucking MOSLEY.

Please someone explain why am I made to listen to his views on any subject whatsoever? IF you, Max, want to stay private, please do for goodness sake! And do not pollute airspace around me with your views whether it is on politics, privacy or housekeeping.

Why am I made to listen to the views of Nuts and Zoo via the publicly funded channels????

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JosieRosie · 30/11/2011 13:40

Come on then slug - don't leave us hanging Wink

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WhollyGhost · 30/11/2011 13:36

What gets me is that it sounds like Nuts and Zoo have been involved in the BBC's selection process since 2006.

And there has been no controversy. Obviously those wank rags have gotten publicity out of this, but I hope they've not been paid.

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bemybebe · 30/11/2011 13:36

Nooooooooo... How could you!
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slug · 30/11/2011 13:33

Nick Ferrari is a neighbour of mine. The stories I could tell...... Wink

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JosieRosie · 30/11/2011 13:32

bemybebe, obviously my blood pressure is dangerously low and it's my body's way of telling me to crank it up!

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bemybebe · 30/11/2011 13:24

You are listening to Nick Ferrari??? Shock "Very depressing but maybe it serves me right for listening to LBC!" Too damn right!

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etyksm · 30/11/2011 13:24

Here is the list of nominees and votes received, remove the votes from Nuts and Zoo and Rebecca Adlington replaces Amir Khan in top 10.

Rory McIlroy 27
Darren Clarke 26
Mo Farah 25
Mark Cavendish 23
Alastair Cook 17
Dai Greene 17
Andrew Strauss 14
Andy Murray 14
Luke Donald 11
Amir Khan 7
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Rebecca Adlington 6
Jenson Button 6
Keri-Anne Payne 5
Graeme Swann 5
Sam Warburton 4
Stuart Broad 4
James Anderson 4
Alistair Brownlee 4
Sam Tomkins 3
Sarah Stevenson 3
Sam Waley-Cohen 3
Gareth Bale 3
Scott Parker 3
Chrissie Wellington 3
Carl Froch 3
Kath Grainger 2
Victoria Pendleton 2
Dimitar Berbatov 1
Dario Franchitti 1
Jonathan Trott 1
Judd Trump 1
Ian Bell 1
Alastair Browlee 1
Shanaze Reade 1
George North 1
Paul Scholes 1
David Weir 1
Alistair Cook 1
Wayne Rooney 1
Hayley Turner 1
Louis Smith 1
George Groves 1
Ben Ainslie 1
Jamie Roberts 1
Glen Chapple 1
Stef Reid 1
Hannah England 1
Tony McCoy 1
Nicola Adams 1
Yaya Toure 1
Patrick Vieira 1
Lewis Hamilton 1
Jessica Ennis 1

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JosieRosie · 30/11/2011 13:21

I heard Nick Ferrari (I know, I know) going on about this today. He was speaking to a female sports journalist, I didn't catch her name unfortunately, and he was suggesting to her that there are just no sports women who are good enough to make the listAngry She mentioned Helen Jenkins by name and his response was 'never 'eard of 'er'. Charming Hmm

This journalist also drew attention to the Nuts and Zoo involvement and highlighted their crappy attitude to women - topless covers etc. Old Ferrari responded that that was hardly the magazine's fault as none of those women are 'forced' to pose nude for these magazines. Yadda yadda, yawn yawn headdesk Very depressing but maybe it serves me right for listening to LBC!

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HandDivedScallopsrgreat · 30/11/2011 13:14

The media seem perfectly capable of making personalities out of copious amounts of male athletes, it is a pity that they don't devote a fraction of that energy towards promoting female athletes and female sports such as football, cricket etc which we are pretty good at!

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HandDivedScallopsrgreat · 30/11/2011 13:10

Can I also add Kath Grainger/Anna Watkins to slug's list for being World champions (rowing) for the 2nd year on the trot. In fact they were World Champions in 2 separate events last year.

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bemybebe · 30/11/2011 13:08

Exclusion of Chrissie Wellington is not the fault of Rory McIlroy, who became the youngest US Open champion after a very difficult showing in Masters.

I am not a golfer, but my older female side of the family is and they all talked about Rory and his amazing turnaround. Sad

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ivykaty44 · 30/11/2011 13:04

golf is a sport - its just the triathletes nicked their balls Wink

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