Have you ever felt the presence of evil?

[Petridish]

I mean, without having any rational reason to feel it? It could be a person or a place.

For me, a friend's father used to really radiate evil - much later, my friend confessed that he had been physically and emotionally abused by his father

I also knew a woman who had a senior job with the police. She was a friend of a friend and I had a bad feeling about her. She eventually got struck off and imprisoned for stealing huge amounts of money from a children's charity she was in charge of.

[JoffreyBaratheon]

I used to be a primary teacher - often in fairly tough schools. And the only kid who ever creeped me out, and I found totally chilling was a girl in my class whose dad was in the Big House for murder. (A drunken stabbing in a pub car park kind of murder).

That wasn't whet creeped me out - I'm as tough as nails and had been through a very rough comprehensive myself so am not middle class and precious. In fact I had another little girl in the same class whose mum murdered her dad right in front of her eyes and in a grisly way, then ended up in a psychiatric hospital. And that second little girl was one of my favourite pupils ever.

It was the child herself that creeped me out. I didn't show it at all, was trained to be utterly professional and even-handed but you can't help your allergic reactions to some people, even children and inevitably in a class of 35 there'd be the odd one you couldn't warm to. In this class, it was this girl.

Here's what's stranger. She was a really nice kid and she was what teachers call "a teacher pleaser". If I was on playground duty - she'd be the first to spend the whole break walking round with me. She had this red coat that reminded me of the stabby dwarf in that Donald Sutherland horror film. The coat didn't help. Something about her eyes - as good-natured as she seemed - I always felt a strange coldness about her. She never gave me a second's trouble. And the other kids probably thought she was a favourite. But she creeped the shit out of me.

[Berylpeep]

Jesus Vocational, good for you!

[Orange1969]

Gut instinct / intuition etc exists for a reason, I believe.

I went for a job interview once and, as soon as I heard the name of the guy who I would be working for, I had a very bad feeling about him. I hadn't met him or even heard about him.

At the interview, he was very nice and smiley, but I really didn't like him and couldn't think why. Eventually, he offered me the job and I came very close to turning it down but didn't because there was no logical reason for my wariness and I couldn't afford not to take the job.

Turned out I was right :( He was a horrible, horrible man. He bullied me terribly and drove me to a breakdown. I left after six months. I really wish I had listened to my instincts.

One reason I think I might have disliked him is that he did look strikingly like Frankenstein's monster without the bolt through his neck

[Justaboy]

JoffreyBaratheon Not sure quite which girl your referring to in your final paragraph but either way the shock of having a dad in clink, and for murder and one parent murder another?, sounds enough to fit a child out for a life of disarrangement!.

Perhaps the reason she followed you around is you might have been the only stability in her life poor soul:(

[ForeverLivingMyArse]

grunt what a ridiculous overreaction!

I wouldn't put my home town (well village) on here either. I've not moved all that far from there. That, plus other bits from other threads, might just be enough to get me recognised. I'd rather not be.

Growing up in an area of London and being happy to plaster that all over the internet is one thing. Small villages are much more identifying. You might be happy to have information like that out there, others aren't.

Settle down!

[elfycat]

I went to Dachau with my (now) DH. I'm 'woo' at the best of times but DH is an electronic-engineering army-sergeant practical kind of man. After Dachau he was willing to believe in negative energy.

My Dsis moved into a new house and kept feeing something 'off' about the kitchen and asked me to dowse her house and check it out but without telling me where she felt cold. I did my 'woo' over a sketch I drew of her house and then called her telling her that it was the kitchen, nothing specifically evil, just a bit of nasty DV. I cleaned the areas on my little plan.

Six months later she called me. They were having a new kitchen and decided to strip the paint off the doors. The firm that was doing it reported that the kitchen door had been kicked in and repaired more than once.

DD1 (6) had a karate class run by an instructor from the same group, but different town. He was a hint more shouty in his commands than the other instructors IMO, but not more I am at 0825 when school shoes are not yet on after the 4th asking and I thought he was trying too hard to show off to the other instructors. DD1 came over halfway through the lesson and asked if she could leave. She's never done this before so we did. She made me promise that if he's there again we will go home. I'm sure there's nothing 'wrong' with him, and we talked about how sometimes we get that wrong impression when we meet people. But she was the most creeped out I've seen her and I agreed that we would leave if he's there again. She never has to stay in the presence of someone who kicks off a fear response, even if the reason for it isn't clear and no-one else has it.

[Bullettoothtony]

contessa I just wanted to tell you that I used to get the same feeling about dd1 when she was a baby, more than once. Sometimes, I couldn't look at her during night feeds.

[LaContessaDiPlump]

Thanks for the reply Bullettothtony - it's not something I discuss in RL so have never heard of anyone else feeling like that. I'm kind of glad that it's not just me!

[ForeverLivingMyArse]

It can be a sign on pnd or other mental health issues, quite scary

Add in the extreme tiredness and hormone changes its little wonder women have disturbing and worrying thoughts post natal.

[Bullettoothtony]

/contesssa* did discuss how I felt and I can remember at least 2 people le who had similar (was 10 years ago now so can't remember details) so I never thought of it as too worrying. It was only ever at night feeds I got the feeling and it never affected by ability to live or provide care.

I did have PND though, so that is interesting

[LaContessaDiPlump]

I didn't think I had PND - no-one ever mentioned it. I didn't particularly enjoy the tiny stage but thought that was something to do with the screaming messy tyrant demanding all my time and energy

[Hurr1cane]

I don't remember what the place was called. It's very near rivington in the north west. We were coming away from the barn when we passed it. I'll have to ask DP

[Qwertybynature]

My mum was really woo. We used to live in Germany and when we walked into the village we had a cross a train line which had automated barriers. It was a mainline so it was fairly busy. There was one particular train that used to go past, think it was a goods train it had containers on the back of it. Anyway, whenever my mum saw this train she used to white and get really flustered. She absolutely hated it and told me years later that she felt physically sick when she saw it.

I'm not woo at all but I sometimes get a feeling like a magnet repelling when I meet certain people. My dh is a pretty good judge of character too so I really trust his opinions.

[Battleshiphips2]

Around 12 years ago I was walking from my DBs and sils house to the bus stop one evening. It is in a built up area but there wasn't really anyone around. I started to feel uncomfortable and just not right. I turned my head and there was a man walking about 10-15 metres behind me. I walked faster as I was starting to feel like I was in some kind of danger. When I got to the bus stop I looked around and he was standing at the end of the road looking the other way. I thought I had just been overreacting because it was dark etc. I turned my head back and waited for my bus still feeling slightly uncomfortable. The next minute I heard a voice in my ear saying "did I scare you then"! He started saying some really filthy stuff and I was trying not to show my fear when a police car drove past on the opposite side of the road. It got slightly past and I heard tires screech and it drove back towards me at lightening speed. The car pulled up by the bus stop, 2 policemen jumped out and grabbed the guy into the car. They drove down the road a bit and were in the car for a while. Eventually they let him out and waited while he walked away in the opposite direction. They came back to me me and asked all sorts of questions. The guy had told them that I had just started chatting to him at the bus stop! I told them the whole story and they got me in the car to take me home as they said I wasn't safe there. Turns out he was a convicted sex attacker who stalked victims. They said I had been really lucky as he had probably been watching me for a while! They said to never be in the area alone again. When I told them I had felt uncomfortable they said to me to always trust my instinct. They said most women who they interview who've been attacked get a feeling beforehand and they told me to never take that feeling lightly as there is usually a reason to feel like that. I always trust my instinct now!

[iwantgin]

Oh battleships that is scary.

[BeccaMumsnet]

Hi all - we don't want this thread to go poof, so we're going to pop it over to 'The Unexplained'.

[iwantgin]

The Unexplained ?

Why have I not heard of that before ?

Interesting.....

[DuchessofMalfi]

I was about to say the same thing, gin :o Another bit of MN I need to go and explore.

[Justaboy]

Hurr1cane Ah!, know that area very well. Use to have an aunt in Newton-le-willows and when younger use to spend days roaming around that area mainly Winter Hill or Wintryholde hill as they used to call it .

Several odd things are supposed to have happened up there UFO's and the like. Still never saw or experienced anything odd or out of the ordinary apart from the scenic views and atmosphere:-)

For anyone interested.

en.wikipedia.or/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)#cite_note-22

[Orange1969]

Thanks MNHW

[Orange1969]

MNHQ! Sorry typo

[Hurr1cane]

It wasn't up winter hill it was a sort of little area near rivington. I'll try to call him now to find out the name forgot to ask him.

[Baconyum]

Yay MNHQ yes think I need to explore the unexplained too. Sooo much to see on mn I've barely explored classics yet!

[Hurr1cane]

justaboy it's Belmont

[MrsMarigold]

place marking