Game of thrones series 4: SPOILERS ALLOWED

[Logg1e]

Book and tv series spoilers allowed.

[AryaOfHouseSnark]

Yes I think we will see more and more spoilers from TWOW, which isn't going to be out anytime soon.

[hildasmuriel]

I really wonder where the show is going vis a vis the books. I think books 4 and 5 are going to be much harder to get on screen anyway because the story slows down considerably after the bam, bam, bam of Book 3. Some of the shocks we have already seen, for example the reveal of Reek and I think it will be harder to make the stories great TV.

[Nymeria01]

I'm not a lover of Lady Stoneheart. The shock value was great in the book but that was it. After that she adds very little to the story but takes significantly from the cold finality that the Red Wedding gave to the Stark's tragedy.

[AryaOfHouseSnark]

I doubt it's a double bluff unfortunately, I have given up hope on Stoneheart.
she obviously doesn't have that much to do with the next few books, or they are just going to change things and veer further away from the books.
I find it hard to tell if I am disappointed that my favourite parts have been cut and sulking a bit or if I am genuinely losing interest in the show.
I don't want to be a " if they do this I'm not watching anymore" sort of person, but I am liking the show less and less because I don't feel it measures up to the books, there are so many bits they change and cut and I tend to come away feeling a bit disappointed.
I know they're two different entities and I shouldn't really compare, but it's hard not to. I just don't feel as excited about got as I did about breaking bad and the wire for example.

[hildasmuriel]

This piece in Digital Spy pretty much says the thing we were all waiting for in the last episode won't happen. Could it be a double bluff? I am pretty gutted.
www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/s151/game-of-thrones/news/a580375/game-of-thrones-star-says-book-twist-wont-happen-its-impossible.html#~oIkwnnF57galuQ

[AryaOfHouseSnark]

I love pug Joffrey.

[VivaLeBeaver]

have you seen this trailer for season 4 on blinkbox

[WhatsTheEffingPoint]

The CGI towards the end is a bit OTT but Kit Harington looks GOOD.

[AryaOfHouseSnark]

I saw a poster for this at a tube st.
Someone had written Jon Snow knew nothing on it, hopefully none of the unsullied noticed the huge spoiler.
I saw that on my fb newsfeed Queen, the spoil sports didn't sit on the iron throne.

[QueenOfThorns]

Wow, that good?

Looks as though Jon Snurr and some of the other cast members met the actual Queen this morning. Can't really see Liz n Phil being GoT viewers, so she probably didn't know who they were!

[Legionoffools]

I watched that, and honestly it's better than jumping out of an aeroplane without a parachute.

[WhatsTheEffingPoint]

Going completely off topic here, but, if you like eye candy Jon Snow then the film Pompeii is worth a watch.

[AryaOfHouseSnark]

What are we going to do tomorrow night ? How long till series 5 ?

[AryaOfHouseSnark]

Brilliant idea. I am liking the new Westeros.

[hildasmuriel]

Or Mel can be Minister for Energy. Burn a few folks when stocks are low.

[AryaOfHouseSnark]

What about Stannis the Mannis, he does deserve to be in there somewhere. Maybe he can run the local red god church with Mel, he can be in charge of the garden parties and church fetes.

[hildasmuriel]

Gardensgardens a technical term - obviously.

[hildasmuriel]

Arya would definitely have a 'most wanted' list as head of security.

I propose Bran as Chief of GardensGardens, Trees and Recreational Spaces.

[AryaOfHouseSnark]

even Disney have crackpot theorists

Yes, Dolorous Edd would be a good president, Bronn would have to be Vice President. Hot pie minister of bread and pies ? Gendry minister of ...erm being topless ? Arya minister of security.

[PourquoiTuGachesTaVie]

Yes it was westeros.org and I am a member, I don't post often though.

I'd vote for Dolorous Edd for president.

[QueenOfThorns]

No, I'm just a lurker as well, they make me feel like a bit of a lightweight. My usual method of reading books is to devour them as quickly as possible and I tend to skim over details, so I don't notice all the subtle things that are being hinted at

I've just started reading again from the beginning of book 4, hopefully a bit more slowly this time!

[AryaOfHouseSnark]

Will pop over myself later, are you a member there ?

I keep on thinking about joining, but they're so serious over there, I might stick to lurking.
I forgot about Gendry, I think I will give him my vote.

[QueenOfThorns]

No, what am I thinking! Dolorous Edd is the only man for the job!

[QueenOfThorns]

Pod would get my vote for president, sorry Hot Pie!

[QueenOfThorns]

I think that Syrio is dead. The only reason people think he might not be is because he died 'off-stage', but it think he had to. After all, if Arya had still been there to see him die, she wouldn't have got away, would she?

Jaquen was one of the three prisoners given to the Nights Watch by Ned, so the timing is a bit wrong for Syrio to have been among them. I suppose someone (Varys) could have pulled a fast one, but I'm not really sure I see the point.

I love the theories! I never think of any for myself (except obvious ones like Robert Strong = Gregor Clegane), but I can spend hours reading the threads on westeros.org. I have just spotted one about the Sphinx, so I'm off to waste some time...