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14 yo has no interests and opting out of everything

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Avago · 13/01/2014 14:49

He was a very sporty boy until he dislocated his knee for a second time last year and now he refuses point blank to do any sport outside the timetabled school activities.

I don't blame him for being scared of it happening again, I've never seen anyone in that much pain and he received pretty poor hospital care but it worries that he is now opting out of life when it gets hard.

We still have a good relationship and after several long talks he said part of the problem is the shouting from the opposition / coaches - he hates conflict and being shouted at and the thought of going back to it after such a long break is too much for him. (He never complained when he actually was participating apart from when facing one particular team).

He used to have loads of friends but barely ever sees anybody now.

He does well at school - he's in the top classes for everything with little effort and seems happy enough just playing games on his laptop but I keeping seeing wasted months turning into wasted years and his inability to apply himself to anything worries me.

Any words of wisdom?

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Avago · 13/01/2014 18:07

Hi
Took me so long to post last post with lots of distractions new messages have appeared.

He does 4 hours of school gym per week I think though this will probably reduce in August when he has to reduce subjects and PE will be dropped (can't argue with that since he was unable to take part for 3 months last year). Teacher's have been supportive and encouraged participation in the few activities out of school but no go. He used to enjoy swimming but refuses to go to that too- he's so skinny I can count his ribs from the other side of the pool and I think he's very self conscious. He manages the odd dog walk but that's only a weekend thing (for him!)

We have a good relationship too which I'm scared of destroying. He's left every consultant and physio appointment in or on the verge of tears after talking about participating in sport and it's just not like him to cry and stress so much.

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Craggyhollow · 13/01/2014 18:08

I always tell dd1 to keep going with her running because in a year (15) loads of girls will drop out

It's a crucial stage if you are into competitive sport. Lots leave at this stage.

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Graceparkhill · 13/01/2014 18:09

Is it a body confidence/ self conscious thing do you think? This was certainly the case with DS2 ( aged 14) who did not want to "put his head above the parapet" for anything.

He is naturally quiet and at the moment is all arms and legs and his natural agility and grace appears to have gone.

He is slowly coming out of that phase and I think I am trying to trust my instincts that it will all come right in the end.

DS2 bought himself some weights and has a wee routine he carries out behind closed doors.

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Travelledtheworld · 13/01/2014 18:09

lljkk

Lol.

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Craggyhollow · 13/01/2014 18:09

Avago he sounds scared Sad

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Graceparkhill · 13/01/2014 18:15

Cross posted with you OP. Just remembered recent convo with DS2 where he will not go out on his bike because everyone will stare at him. A few years back we couldn't get him off the blooming bike. He doesn't even like crossing the road because he thinks it draws attention to him.


Given that your DS is so upset I would take the pressure of him for just now and then review things again in 3 months time. I would have a chat with him and tell him that you are going to put your concerns on the back burner until Easter and then you and he can have another discussion .

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CinnamonPorridge · 13/01/2014 18:15

Avago, why is he in tears?

I know they are sometimes weirdly hormonal at that age (ds is a haircut refuser although he would never ever set a toe wrong at school he risks detention for having his hair way too long) but it sounds as if there is more to it.
And it's great to read about someone who has a great relationship with her teenager.

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Avago · 13/01/2014 18:20

Is it a body confidence/ self conscious thing do you think? This was certainly the case with DS2 ( aged 14) who did not want to "put his head above the parapet" for anything.

This is a large part of it I know. He has to reinvent himself I guess if he's no longer a footie guy and he just can't at the moment. His response to the water polo was people would find out and laugh at him for doing something so weird.

craggyhollow I know, he is Sad

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ssd · 13/01/2014 18:20

what about golf? maybe its the physical aspect he's got scared of, with his bad injury, and I dont blame him! and its something he do alone, unless he wants to go around with someone (DH?)

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Booville3 · 13/01/2014 18:35

Maybe he needs some sort of post traumatic stress counselling?? Sounds pretty nasty if he comes out of physio in tears, maybe don't underestimate how badly his injuries have effected him psychologically! I agree leave it til maybe Easter the cold weather isn't particularly enticing to wanting to go out & about!!

When my ds 1 (nearly 13) has had phases of being withdrawn I've told him to organise a sleep over so I can see how he is interacting with his "friends" (they still change all the time)! Good luck!

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DrNick · 13/01/2014 20:25

Agree with travelled that the is staff at school need to be contacted

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DrNick · 13/01/2014 20:25

PE

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DrNick · 13/01/2014 20:25

Water polo isn't weird. Is it?

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KareKare · 13/01/2014 22:22

This could be my 15 year old.

His 11 year old brother does non stop activities with brio, but he has managed to drop just about everything, guitar being the latest.

He swims one evening per week and does PE twice a week at school and that's it. He has completed his DofE bronze.

Like your ds Avago, he is in top set for everything and has just done well in his mocks without too much effort.

He has friends and spends time with them outside of school, but never wants to see anyone at the weekends - he likes family time, walking the dog and cooking at home.

He's a really lovely boy (apart from the odd hormental week here or there), funny, bright and brilliant company but I worry that he won't be well rounded enough.

He has been invited to go and help with lambing on a local farm (he is absolutely nuts about animals & biology and hopes to be a vet). But of course, he is saying he doesn't want to go and he can't get out of his comfort zone. I know he would love it if he could get over himself. We live in a village with loads of wealthy families that have young kids - easy babysitting territory, but he won't do that either!

I am so frustrated.

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ThreeBeeOneGee · 13/01/2014 22:29

'hormental': not a word I've come across before, but very apt.

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whois · 13/01/2014 22:44

His response to the water polo was people would find out and laugh at him for doing something so weird

Nu uh, all the guys at uni who played water polo had bodies of gods! You have to be incredible fit and strong (and brutal!) to play water polo.

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whois · 13/01/2014 22:45

This has just reminded me that the water polo team did a naked Calendar thing one year!

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saintmerryweather · 13/01/2014 22:50

Its not really a sport but if youve got a dog could he take it to agility classes?

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KareKare · 13/01/2014 22:57

They're so wary of being seen to be doing something different or, the horror, 'keen' which seems to be the worst insult at ds' school.

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DrNick · 14/01/2014 07:38

agree with bods of gods

simper

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Craggyhollow · 14/01/2014 07:41

Is your Dh sporty? Could he have a word?

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CinnamonPorridge · 14/01/2014 11:02

Ooh yes re bods, I've been to a Water Polo match at the Olympics. Just wow!

Sadly my ds has always hated swimming, but I'd say that is a very cool sport!

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Claybury · 14/01/2014 11:25

My DS16 gave up all interests especially sports in year 8 - if I look back I should maybe have forced him to continue rugby although I'm not sure I could have - the result is now he does no sport whatsoever. The culture in his (state) school has made him reject all sports - I think it is simply awful to do no sport/exercise at this age. Whenever we have talked about it he says we are nagging. He is slim but I argue that I am just a negligent as I would be if he were overweight it just happens that eventually he is not destined to be big ( yet!).
All I would say is do your best to get him into something he likes as it will only get harder in the next few years. If he refuses just remind yourself you can only do your best !
It's a tough age ....

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Avago · 14/01/2014 11:43

Wow thank you so much for all the responses, I really appreciate them.

To expand a bit…
DH and I are very happy together but absolute opposites. He is a complete optimistic extrovert, talks to EVERYONE, up for anything (used to be v sporty, rugby and martial arts but twisted spine put paid to it now a bit over weight and into doing up cars), a problem solving, confident computer nerd "lets get it sorted' kinda person.
I'm an introverted pessimist realist, not comfortable in big groups, arty, musical, thinks too much does too little (working on that though Smile). I don't know why we get on so well but we do. He works away from home Mon to Thur/Fri.

We have 2 boys. DS1 14 takes after me personality wise except that although he is very able in art and drama he has no interest and only wanted to do sport. DH loves him to bits but has to work on the relationship - his shouting has terrified DS1 and he's made a big effort to not get mad and instead talk to DS over the years. THey have a really good relationship but its worked at (on both sides) and DH gets very frustrated at his muddling along ways and lack of drive.

DS2 is almost 12 and a mini DH. He's a whirlwind of ideas and enthusiasm and loves being out and about in clubs and with friends. DH and DS2 have a very close natural relationship. The boys were very close though a little less now - a real effort is made by both of them not to like the same things which doesn't help DS1 find an activity since DS2 always wants to try too and is normally as good or better than DS1.

DS1 was injured playing football about 4 years ago - it was dismissed in A&E but it resulted in a painful click in his knee at random times while playing sport. In 2012 it 'went' because of a tackle, he had very bad care at the hospital, follow ups were postponed and postponed, but physio was great and he had no further problems (clicking resolved too) so I didn't push consultant appointment. His knee then 'went' again in may 2013 because he stood in a small hole on the football pitch - he wasn't actually playing at the time. He was in a lot of pain, we went to A&E they said they would escalate him seeing his consultant (they couldn't view and notes). Following day we took his leg out of the splint to put some ice on it and DS1 SCREAMED - his knee cap had partially dislocated previously and had now completely slipped out of place (though we didn't know it, only MRI showing damage done means we know this happened). Further trip to A&E still didn't result in anything apart from strong pain killers after I argued that calpol was doing anything. The kneecap was never put back - I presume it slipped back after 5 days since that's when the pain subsided significantly. Again follow up care from consultant has been poor but physio brilliant. I think he cries because he's scared, and stressed that it will happen again and he cannot believe the reassurances - both the Dr and physio seem to think the knee would have felt weak when it happened and now after hours of exercise must feel strong where as DS can feel no difference - it was absolutely fine when it suddenly partially dislocated. His sport helped to define him, clubs fought over him, he was popular and it was his social life. He's now lost.

We gave him a longer than necessary recovery time (no guidance from hospital and no physio at the time and general 'if he feels able' advice met with a "I can't") and since then have gone in fits and phases of suggesting activities (results "STOP PRESSURISING ME!" hormental (what a fabulous word Grin rages) and leaving to own devices (results in playing runscape non stop hermit behaviour).

School has been very involved, partly because his year head is also a gym teacher. Another PE teacher who was waiting on knee surgery tried to act as a mentor and they even tried to arrange for an olympic hockey player who was in school anyway doing a talk on over coming adversity (she'd ripped her knee apart) to talk to him but it that was way out of his comfort zone. He went back to basket ball after encouragement from teacher but stopped again after 2 sessions.

We have friends with older boys accomplished in a variety of things and tried to encourage friend ships there so that DS1 could be helped/ trained by them (way cooler then parents?) but no.

We live in a middle-class pocket but probably the majority of school mates are from the surrounding ex miner villages now on low wages/ benefits or dock workers. Football is the accepted sport. Rugby is a bit weird, water polo is really weird I'm afraid. (but yes I did enjoy looking at the photos of the older teams on the web site when I was doing research Blush Grin ).

Wow I'd better stop now this is very loooong thanks for making it to the end!

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Avago · 14/01/2014 11:52

Dog agility a good idea ! we have an 11 month Cocker so it would be great for both of them Smile

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