Bleaching my hair - do I follow with toner or

[Toly]

Hello,

I’m going to colour my hair from a dark brown to a (hopefully) pale ashy slightly violet blonde.

I’ve bleached it before and managed to get it very light so should be ok with that part but it was a while ago so I was wondering if this would be correct:

A) bleach with 20 vol developer once or maybe twice

B) Followed by either Wella t18 toner OR Wella koleston perfect in 10/16 again using 20 vol developer?

If any hairdressers could advise I’d be so grateful, thank you!

[Toly]

@EverythingChanges321 yeah I know you’re right.. I think actually what’s stopping me at the moment is after adding everything up - bleach, developer, Olaplex, two toners and the toner developer (it’s 6 vol) plus brush, clips etc is over £100...

[EverythingChanges321]

Going platinum is easy the first time, it’s the subsequent root touch ups that will be difficult to do without overlapping the bleach and keeping it an even lift. Chances are you’ll get banding and it will cost more to put right as you’ll be paying for a colour correction, but it’s your choice.

You only need a very low vol developer to tone after bleaching, not 20 vol.

[Toly]

@novacaneforthepain ok thanks I probably will try it just because once I get an idea I have to see if I can do it

[novacaneforthepain]

I think that doing that yourself can be seriously risky. Root smudges are really hard - not to get a line or patches.

If you do it, only leave it on for a few minutes and if it's not effective enough just repeat it

[Toly]

@novacaneforthepain could I just ask - I have ordered the dialight in frosty milkshake and the developer, what do you think about me doing a root smudge in dialight 9.11 (deep ash)

[Toly]

@novacaneforthepain brilliant thank you so much, will look for that!

[novacaneforthepain]

L'Oréal dialight are really nice gentle toners for after bleaching. Google them and have a look, (I tried to attach a pic but I can't). You will need to buy the specific developer for it though.

Frosty milkshake is probably going to get you the best result. But I would only leave it on for a few minutes and wash it off because after bleaching your hair will grab the colour really quick. You can always repeat it. And they are so gently you can use them often to refresh.

These results will completely depend on how the bleaching goes though.

[deathswiftlyfollows]

I always used luo P01 I think as my toner

[Toly]

This is what I would like ideally:

[Toly]

Thanks - @novacaneforthepain that’s really helpful, I won’t use that koleston colour then. So if you were forced to do your own hair with only products you could buy online, and you wanted to go a cool, ashy but not too silver/grey blonde what would you use and do if you don’t mind me asking? I am definitely open to advice! Thank you! Will attach a picture of the colour I want if that helps?

[Livingoffcoffee]

It's definitely doable!

Sounds like you have the same attitude about it that I did (aka - eh if it sucks I'll chop it short and it grows out. It's only hair after all). Think that helps! Ha

Good luck! Look forward to the pics!

[novacaneforthepain]

Hi
I am a hairdresser and I use wella koleston on my own hair - 12/16, so I know about this particular tone.

10/16 will bring it down quite a few shades from your old bleached pic, will be a lot darker if you use that. Also it is quite pink rather than violet.

Reallyyy wouldn't recommend doing it yourself, or this way. But good luck and looking forward to some after pics

[Veterinari]

I went from mouse to platinum at home then added a pink toner. Loved it but the upkeep was a nightmare

[Toly]

Thanks @Lovebug06 glad your roots went ok!

And that’s encouraging @Livingoffcoffee!

Maybe I should film it in the hope that Brad Mondo might critique my technique

[DrNorthern]

I think toner is the right option, you just have to be prepared for the upkeep! X

[Lovebug06]

Good luck! I attempted my own roots today and it went okay. Well I can't see the back properly but I think it's okay, and if it's not I can't see it anyway not anywhere near as hard as this though, I've got dark blonde hair and I did them lighter. Good luck

[Livingoffcoffee]

I wanted to go platinum blonde a couple years ago and was too cheap to pay a salon £300+ to do it, so bleached it at home.

Exactly as you are saying though - with the Wella T18 toner.

When I then went to a salon for root maintenance she was really impressed I did it myself.

[Toly]

And I am getting some Olaplex

[Toly]

Yes I will be very sure not to do my roots first!

[Toly]

@DrNorthern would an actual permanent colour be better do you think? Like Wella koleston 10/16?

[ThatLibraryMiss]

Moonshinemisses, you missed bleach is not shampoo, don't lather it.

And how many times does he say, OMG, it's going to be terrible, your hair will fall out... Oh. Oh, it's actually not bad. I like it. You look great.

[Moonshinemisses]

I was coming on to suggest watching some Brad Mondo videos also. Never heard of him before this week but somehow me & my teen seem to have been sucked into a vortex & cant stop watching. I know nothing about bleaching but i ca tell you dont bother using T18, section, don't comb the bleach through ( hair too fragile), apply to roots last. Off to watch some folks doing rainbow dye😁

[Levatrice]

Shameless place marking for the after pics! Good luck your braver than me!

[ZoeandChandon]

Don’t do it, u less u have someone to help apply to the back, keep an eye on the heat, and you have plenty of product to reapply (several days later when the burns have healed)

[notdoingitanymore]

Wow your old bleach look is something I've never quite achieved and my base is similar to yours- i think you got this, I'm braving up to bleach & purple soon