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MNHQ calling: we want to know what would be on your policy wishlist

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RowanMumsnet · 20/05/2014 09:47

Over the years, when MNers have got stuck into issues they particularly care about, we've often seen agreement (or something approaching agreement Grin) around particular policy ideas.

As the May 2015 general election approaches (ish), we’d like to find out what you think about what the next government should do - parenting-related or otherwise. Which commitments would you like to see in the parties’ manifestos? What would make you consider switching your vote (or voting at all, if you don’t currently intend to)? Which issues do you think deserve to be top priority for incoming ministers?

We’ve collectively campaigned on or added our support to others' campaigns around a number of issues, such as:

affordable, available childcare;
better provision of education, health and social services for children with additional needs;
better miscarriage care;
more and better sex and relationships education in schools;
the availability and variety of contraception;
getting sales reps off maternity wards;
flexible working; and
tackling FGM.

Other issues that seem to crop up regularly are bringing down the cost of some school uniforms; and more and/or better-paid parental leave, including paternity leave and bereavement/adjustment leave.

Are there other things Mumsnetters collectively agree on? Are those on the above list still as important to you as they have been? We’d thought we'd throw out this entirely unscientific starter for 10 with a view to informing a more nuanced analysis of each issue and a fuller survey of Mumsnet users in time for, no doubt, the string of ministers and ministerial hopefuls headed our way come early next year when the election campaign gets into full swing.

So please do let us know what you think.

Thanks
MNHQ

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iK8 · 04/06/2014 23:55

I haven't read all the thread but one thing I get really annoyed about that doesn't seem to get picked up enough:

Equal pay for dads (or same sex partner taking on co-parent role) regardless of whether they are an employee, a worker or self-employed. It is outrageous that as a self employed woman I get maternity allowance but there is no equivalent for dads. Until this is fixed things like shared care after the birth or a baby, both parents working flexibly and all the other gubbins that stops women going back to work or keeps them on maternity leave because there is no alternative in their house due to a self-employed partner is just going to continue.

More social housing too please.

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sparklesandbling · 05/06/2014 09:52

Stop constant renewals for Children with LIFELONG GENETIC CONDITIONS! It is a lifelong condition, is not going to get better and never changes!

It is a waste of tax payers money and causes absolute misery to the parents that have to do a renewal form every 2 years. We know our child is disabled and will be for the rest of their life!

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LindseyLM · 05/06/2014 14:09
  1. Education that pushes everyone to reach their potential - not education focused on getting as many as possible to mediocrity


  1. Reduce the debt - reducing the deficit simply slows the rate at which the debt grows but our children will be saddled with an impossible future unless the debt is dramatically slashed.


  1. Work out a sensible strategy for managing the internet so that it becomes a massively useful tool for improving lives rather than a massively risky tool for corrupting the young.
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MacenroeTheBoatAshore · 05/06/2014 16:55

Stop constant renewals for Children with LIFELONG GENETIC CONDITIONS! It is a lifelong condition, is not going to get better and never changes!

It is a waste of tax payers money and causes absolute misery to the parents that have to do a renewal form every 2 years. We know our child is disabled and will be for the rest of their life!


ABSOLUTLEY!
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stillstandingatthebusstop · 05/06/2014 20:32

I am a carer (claiming carers allowance) and I can't work much. I manage to hold down a low paid very part time job. I would like to be able to transfer my tax allowance to my husband.
I work very hard caring for my son, I kind of understand that the government won't raise the pitiful rate of carers allowance (I think they pay me £60 ish a week for the minimum of 35 hrs caring for my son - that is less than £2 an hour??????) The government could show me that they value what I do by transferring my tax allowance to my husband. That would go someway to help my family and others out of the disability related poverty trap.

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TrueGent · 06/06/2014 13:51

I would support any move to end Child Benefit (CB) payments. No children born 10 months after the General Election would qualify and CB would be frozen at its current level to allow its real value to reduce with inflation over time.

This would encourage people to consider whether they can afford another child (or even a first one), thereby increasing personal responsibility.

I would support the withdrawal of benefits from any non-residential parent (usually absent fathers) that did not pay maintenance for their children, up to the value of any CSA-mandated payments. For parents not on any form of benefit, I would support introduction of a surcharge to their tax bill to achieve the same effect.

I would not allow the siring of more children to reduce the maintenance payments to current ones - if you want more children once you move on, you need to ask whether or not you can afford them.

I would allow schools to set their own entrance criteria (including by ability) and would give parents a voucher to enable them to 'buy' their child a place at schools, topping up with their own money if they wish. This would swiftly introduce a true market into education, enabling good schools to expand and bad ones to close.

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TrueGent · 06/06/2014 13:55

"Tax evaders and shameless tax avoiders. To be stripped of public honours. If you don't pay all your tax in this country you don't to decide what happens."

What about those that don't pay tax? Or indeed, those that are net recipients of welfare (i.e. receiving more than they contribute) - should they be treated differently also?

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iK8 · 06/06/2014 16:09

Bit of a straw man there TrueGent. Comparing dishonest thieves with those in receipt of benefits is like comparing apples and oranges, except in this case your apples are rotten.

They only people who pay £0 tax are in tax avoidance schemes diddling the system or doing some creative (and probably morally dubious) accounting involving overseas residency. Even your benefit claimants pay VAT.

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TrueGent · 06/06/2014 22:19

iK8 - benefit claimants paying VAT are merely 'churning' public money.
True tax-payers are those that (a) are paid from private enterprise and (b) earn above the threshold of net contribution (i.e. ~£24k).

One could argue that it is they that deserve a say (i.e. a vote) over how their money is spend; those below that level are benefiting from others efforts and it could be argued have no right to a say, let alone a vote.

But that's not how politics works in this country - we kowtow to the weak, poor, incompetent and burdensome and they are in charge, alas.

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iK8 · 07/06/2014 00:03

Wow, what a lot of mansplaining Truegent. You are, of course, talking utter bollocks.

Thankfully we live in a democracy where we each get a vote regardless of income (excepting those legally excluded due to residency status, imprisonment or nationality). Or would you have those taking more out of the pot than they put in denied a vote too? Old people in state funded care, the sick receiving expensive cancer treatment, those who had a baby in the last year or who have a child in state funded education... they're all eating up the pot aren't they and not putting so much in. Or is it just those on benefits you take issue with? And is it all of them or are those who have serious disabilities so they cannot work excused? Maybe a few of those lazy cancer patients or those with serious mobility problems should just show a bit more gumption? Perhaps someone in a coma could be usefully employed? Perhaps as a draft excluder? They don't move about much do they?

Maybe those in receipt of carers' allowance who provide what is, in effect, extremely discounted labour at something like 30p an hour for a service that would cost £15-50 an hour on the open market should get an extra vote? They are effectively subsidising the state after all.

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debbietheduck · 07/06/2014 18:23

Some attempt to address the housing crisis would be good - more social housing, better legal protection for tenants and just more houses (on brownfield sites as far as possible).

Stop privatising the NHS, the prison service, the child protection service etc.

Stop banging on about the deficit. It doesn't actually matter that much. Large numbers of unemployed people are a wasted resource and the government should pay them to do something useful.

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MacenroeTheBoatAshore · 07/06/2014 19:31

To tighten up the justice system, its a joke atm.

the perps get away ewith it and the victims get penalised or made to suffer.

and make more tighter laws about anti social behaviour, racism, disablists etc.

tougher jail sentences, jails should be jails, not Butlins holiday camps.

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TrueGent · 09/06/2014 08:28

iK8 - one of the cleverest things that the Blair/Brown Labour Government did was to pay people to do things that they used to do for free.

Time was, people would care for their older, poorer, sicker relatives for reasons of love, compassion, duty. The creation and payment of "carers' allowances" to relatives or friends replaced these benign motives with financial ones, overseen and endorsed by the State.

The consequence is that people like you now see State activity as the 'default setting' and any deviation therefrom as an aberration. You probably refer to the 'Bedroom tax' as well, don't you?

Very clever politics and, in your case at least, highly effective.

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3littlefrogs · 09/06/2014 08:44

Truegent
Your last post has enraged me.
People cared for their sick and elderly relatives as a matter of course in the days when people lived until their 70s and dementia was rare.
They did it when housing was affordable and spacious and there were district nurses to visit and help.
They did it when it didn't take two adults working full time to pay for somewhere to live.
They did it when there were jobs for young adults to bring money into the household.
They did it when it didn't cost a fortune to support your children through further education and they didn't leave university with a mountain of debt and little chance of employment.

I have been caring for elderly relatives for upwards of 20 years.
As a community nurse I see the strain and stress this brings to families.
The increase in dementia coupled with people living till their late 90s is creating a huge problem for families.
I worked to help my children pay for their university education so they wouldn't be saddled with huge debts.
Carer's allowance is an absolute pittance.

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TrueGent · 09/06/2014 12:14

3littlefrogs, I am sorry that my post enraged you.

You make some valid comparisons between times gone by and nowadays but, of course, neither of us has given the full picture, which would also mention:
The massive increase in living standards for all levels of society since WW2;
The massive reduction in the cost of holidays, computers, phones and other things once seen as "luxuries" and now viewed by many as "necessities".

Other countries' populations have experienced the same changes but have retained the sense of love and duty towards their relatives that we have lost, by and large.

This is a cultural shift as people have become more self-centred and so they whinge here on Mumsnet about their parents and parents-in-law in ways that people from much of Asia (Africa too) would find incomprehensible.

It's all me, me, me - with my "right" to a holiday/job/phone/iPad/easy life trumping my responsibilities to those that brought me up.

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iK8 · 09/06/2014 12:19

Yup, still talking bollocks there truegent. Although I did have a snigger at "people like you" Grin

You really shouldn't presume to know anything about me beyond what I post because it is a) quite rude b) likely to make you look like you base things on supposition instead of fact.

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3littlefrogs · 09/06/2014 12:24

I have contact with many Asian families in the UK who are caring for elderly relatives. They have the same issues to deal with as western families do, as their parents and PIL are living well into old age and dementia, incontinence, and the endless round of appointments, assessments etc that comes with this.
Many of my family still live in Asia. They can all afford to have live in carers as labour is very cheap. One great aunt lived until she was 92. She was bedridden for 10 years, but there was a maid in her room constantly for all that time, doing all the necessary care. TBH, the family were all pretty much able to get on with their day to day lives.

The poor people (of whom there are many, simply don't live that long, so the issue doesn't arise.

Comparing the two cultures is a huge oversimplification IMO.

I do look after my elderly relatives, but it is hard while holding down a job in the NHS as well.

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gruffalocake2 · 09/06/2014 12:39

Housing is the biggest issue for me, but I also think it has massive implications for everybody whether they own/rent whatever.

Nobody seems to be talking about the longer term problems of people being unable to buy. If people can't buy they will be pensioners still paying rent, pensions are crap so they won't be able to afford it, so the government will pick up the tab in the form of housing benefit (this isn't a benefit bash, I've been in receipt of HB until recently). The country will simply not be able to afford to pay for an ageing population to all be adequately housed at vastly inflated rental prices. We need a radical solution to get people into their own homes at an affordable price.
The social benefits of allowing families to put down roots, children to see out their schooling in one school etc. are also huge. Renting means families live in constant unease that they may have to leave their home with only 2 months notice.

Conservative's Help to Buy and Labour's rent capping ideas are both terrible (rent cap will decrease supply and distort the market). We need more house building preferably via massive tax breaks to smaller independent local developers in places people actually want to live, building homes of an adequate size.

We also probably need taxes on second homes and to reshape housing law/taxes so that being a landlord is a stable long term option not a way to make a quick buck. More like Germany where the housing market is very stable.

We also need a revision to stamp duty to make it progressive because currently families are scraping together a deposit only to find all the houses in their area will require 10k of stamp duty minimum(SE).

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TrueGent · 09/06/2014 12:44

ik8 - I apologise, that did come across as a sweeping generalisation.

What I should have said was that your closing phrase, "They are effectively subsidising the state after all." suggests that you see State activity as the default position (i.e. carers removing a burden from the State as opposed to what is actually happening which is the State helping carers financially). Maybe you don't.

3littlefrogs - yes, Asian families living in the UK may well be facing similar issues but my point is that, generally speaking, they will continue to look after their relatives long after "western families" (sic) have put them into a home or got someone else to care instead.

We have lost our sense of family, alas.

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3littlefrogs · 09/06/2014 12:51

It is extraordinarily difficult to get a place in a care home even if you are self funding. In fact if you are not self funding and have no family you are much more likely to end your days in isolation with 4 ten minute visits from a state funded carer per day. It is grim. Self funding costs upwards of £700 per week.(£900 in London). It isn't an easy option by any means.
However, we will have to agree to differ on this TrueGent as this is not really the point of this thread.

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autumnsmum · 09/06/2014 15:06

I agree with the point up thread about dla renewals , there are many conditions that are not going tpchange

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Blondieminx · 09/06/2014 20:54

I don't think we've lost our sense of family, it's more a case that most women work now and sometimes we move away from our parents to find work. Then when they get older and need care, there is already that physical distance barrier on top of the economic one. SadSadAngry

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RowanMumsnet · 11/06/2014 14:55

Hello

Many thanks for all of these.

We're head down in preparing the next stage of our Miscarriage Care campaign at the moment, but we'll be back soon with a longer response.

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PetaPipa · 14/06/2014 04:39

I would like to see value given to stay-at-home parenting and respect and financial support given to parents who choose to look after their pre-schoolers themselves.

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EasilyDistracted77 · 18/06/2014 21:24

Equal rights for men regarding paternity leave. Not sharing it with their partner, but the right to have the same amount of time off as the mother after the birth of their child.

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