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Contaception talk for year 9-a dildo ???

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mooshy · 12/01/2007 14:15

DD1 had her contraception talk yesterday.I think this is fab because in my day teachers spent far too long talking about how to get pregnant ect. and no time on how not to ! However am i being prudish in saying i was a little shocked when she told me they passed round lots of things of which one was a dildo ! I know times have changed ect,but not entirely convinced its approprite >Is my dd and her lovely group of friends among the limited number of kids i know that are quite happy to be children for as long as pos.FFS they still play and make up dances and songs ect.-why did she need to be handed a dildo ?

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Kelly1978 · 12/01/2007 14:37

I really think it would have been for a condom demo and also that maybe the teacher didn't use the word dildo anyway, it's mroe likely to have come from one of her friends.

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kittylette · 12/01/2007 14:40

14 year olds arent that innocent, believe me

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MummyPenguin · 12/01/2007 16:46

I've never had a vibrator. Have I really missed out?

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Piffle · 12/01/2007 16:50

It's a schools place to teach about the biology and some emotional and physical consequences of having sex at a young age or any age.
It is NOT their place to teach about self pleasuring aside from mentioning that masturbation is safe and harmless.

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MummyPenguin · 12/01/2007 16:51

Agree. The dildo was unnecessary.

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beckybrastraps · 12/01/2007 17:05

I agree with Piffle. Demonstrate condoms on something shaped like a penis.

Bananas FGS!

I can't believe that in a lesson about the mechanics of penetrative sex and the use of contraception, people balk at a fake penis. No wonder sex education doesn't seem to be very effective.

Of course, I'm assuming that is what this particular phallus was used for...

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Blandmum · 12/01/2007 17:10

I would have thought that the fake penis would have been used to show how to put a condom on correctly. I see no reason not to do this for a group of 13-14 year olds. Leave it later, and you'll have kids getting pg.

I have known of children younger than this getting pregnant.

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fairyjay · 12/01/2007 17:25

My dd - also Yr. 9 - has a 'Girls healthy living' talk next week - I wondered what they'd be covering!

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NotAnOtter · 12/01/2007 17:27

vibrator at 14 - sorry but i dont think thats right

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sahmtotwo · 12/01/2007 17:30

In my husbands school you have teens of this age getting time off school to go to the family clinic to stock up on condoms. They are very open about their sex lives.

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Blandmum · 12/01/2007 17:30

It depends what they were using it for. I'm betting that it was a 'plastic Knob' to show how to put on a condom.

If so I would have no problems with it at all.

When I think of some of the kids I teach get up to at the age of 13-14 a fake knob is the least of my worries! [shock

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beckybrastraps · 12/01/2007 17:34

I've used a plastic penis to demonstrate how to put on a condom. It was not a vibrator.

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poppiesinaline · 12/01/2007 18:20

a dildo at 14

At 14 I think I was still playing with Sindy dolls

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mooshy · 12/01/2007 18:42

Thank god i`m not alone .
What did you ask santa for ??????

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kama · 12/01/2007 22:14

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mooshy · 12/01/2007 22:34

Def. the dildo .

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bewilderbeast · 12/01/2007 23:09

Effective use of condom depends on putting them on properly, how can you learn to put them on properly on a flippin banana?

No offense to anyone who disagrees but this is where British sex education is going wrong, we are too prudeish (for want of a better word) to educate our children properly, are we scared that teaching them about sex factually will make them want to go and do it? The evidence from across europe seems to suggest the opposite.

Sex isn't something to be ashamed of nor is sexuality, I think we should teach children about sex/sexuality from an early age using appropriate diagrams/videos/demonstrating tools (read plastic penis) as needed. Sex to our school children seems to be something to be sniggered at as if its dirty, a badge of honour to lose your virginity or a mystery to be explored - the forbidden fruit so to speak. Proper education about sex promotes responsible behaviour. If they are going to have sex - and they are at some point - at least they should be properly empowered within their sexual relationships and have the practical/technical knowledge to do it safely.

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mooshy · 12/01/2007 23:23

Bewilderbeast i am with you 100 % .
I initially thought they had a real dildo and the concern was in fact that it is not their place to teach 13 year olds how to use a vibrator/dildo or whatever. If the dildo was just a plastic penis to demo a condom am quite pleased they did it proporly .
I will find out because there is a huge differrence between a responsible condom demonstation and discussing / possibly encouraging the use of sex toys .

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oversted · 12/01/2007 23:23

I doubt it was a 'dildo', if you mean by that a masturbatory sex aid. It will have been an anatomically correct model of an erect penis.

Honestly, why would anyone object to that? I'd much rather my daughter (& my son, for that matter) had a realistic idea of what they might at some point be getting to grips with, as it were

I'd imagine the word 'dildo' came from the more sexually aware kids in the group & has been repeated by the rest of them. If I was teaching them I'd probably have taken the opportunity to discuss masturbation with them, but it won't have been the main thrust (stop sniggering at the back...) of a Year 9 talk on contraception.

i hope that's not it for 'DD1 had her contraception talk yesterday' mind you. It needs to be ongoing discussion.

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Pesha · 12/01/2007 23:44

Um, my dd is only 6 at the mo but i think i would rather her be using a dildo aged 14 than out having sex with boys, although ideally i hope she's doing neither! But I dont see anything wrong in discussing dildos and masturbation, seems like empowering our daughters to grow up to be strong, independant women unashamed of their sexuality. When i was 13 ish I had a friend who used to talk quite openly about masturbation and using things to help her and although i found it abit embarrasing I was actually really glad to hear it was normal cos certainly noone else ever talked to me about it.

Sorry im not really saying this how i want to, am tired and pg and really should be in bed!!

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hercules1 · 12/01/2007 23:49

ActuallY I dont think a plastic penis is necessary a good thing to use. SInce when has a penis really looked like that?? Chances are the first time you have sex you will be drunk and the penis will be a bit floppy as your partner will be too. The best demonstration I have seen at a training day is two condoms stuffed with marshmallows. The outer condom being one with bumps. Far more realistic. It makes the kids laugh and they have to split into teams to race against each other to put the condom on over this in the quickest time.

Using contraception for the first time is embarrassing for most and if you can take away some of that then the person is hopefully far more likely to use one.

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hercules1 · 12/01/2007 23:52

Oh and they have to do it with one of thos masks that simulates being drunk.

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mrsnoah · 12/01/2007 23:53

OMG agree mooshy!

Mine is 10. Our sex Ed meeting is next month (NOT looking forward to that!) Hope the Head doesnt produce a Dildo there Dh will fall off his chair.

'Mum, do you have one of these too? I want a pink one Mum? Mum !'

'I've seen one of these in your wardrobe havent I Mum?'

OH MY GOODNESS NOOOOO!!

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mrsnoah · 12/01/2007 23:55

I am sorry if this is actually a very Serious debate (have just glanced at some of the more eloquent posts)

But, anyway, just imagine if they did produce that, do you really think the girls are going to carry on concentrating to whats being said or are they going to leer at said object and giggle !

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hercules1 · 12/01/2007 23:57

Of course they giggle. What is so bad about that? I would be more concerned if it was done in a serious no laughing manner. You've got to get kids to use these things and have the confidence to do so without being embarrassed.

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