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son had his mobile phone in GCSE biology

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Applecheeks · 05/06/2015 17:22

Three minutes before the end of my sons Biology paper today his mobile phone rang. It was in his pocket. He forgot he had it despite usual prompt at the beginning to hand any mobiles in. He didn't answer it, Invigilator took it off him. He was then interviewed after asked had he intended to cheat etc. My son is chaotic and disorganised. The school rang me to inform and explain that they would submit an incident report. My son is in pieces , angry at himself. I am hoping someone may have had experience. I have read the guidelines on the website of the exam board. This suggests he will receive a penalty of either a warning, lose of points on a unit or the paper, disqualification of this GCSE or ultimately of all he has taken under this board. That would be five GCSEs. I'm so angry with him but that's not helping so trying to stay calm. Clearly it's a breach of the rules but the website doesn't help me work out which penalty is likely as it is judged case by case

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MayPolist · 09/06/2015 22:45

As others have said, this isn't about disruption, it is about cheating.How can any of us here, or the examining body, who don't know the boy, know he wasn't cheating? Why else would you have a phone switched on and on your person after notices have been read about it, not to mention the school most probably having told them for weeks to leave their phones at home.

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clam · 10/06/2015 18:42

I don't suppose for one moment this lad was trying to cheat. But rules are rules, and the school must be seen to follow them, particularly in a public examination.

"amazes me that it hasn't been drilled in to them."

We start this very early on in primary - one or two needy ones might stick their hand up in a test in Y3 or 4, and get told they mustn't, but the vast majority have 'got it' by then.

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Stickerrocks · 16/06/2015 17:51

OP, have you heard anything about this yet?

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MyPelvicFloorTrainsItself · 17/06/2015 07:21

Hope you've had good news about this by now Applecheeks.

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adoptmama · 17/06/2015 09:11

It is frequently drilled into students they may not ask for help. They may raise a hand to ask for more paper, to ask to go to the toilet (escorted), to say they feel ill. They have sat Mocks in Y11 and often in Y10 as well as frequent class exams. Posters provided by the exam boards are displayed showing the potential penalties for taking any electronic device into the exam - No mobile phones, ipods, MP3/4 devices, and no devices capable of storing data or sending data. It doesn't matter a hoot if they are turned off. They could be turned back on again. This is an issue about preventing cheating. Devices can have dictionary apps, translators, internet access or e-books of the entire course stored on them etc. They can be used to photograph question papers and send those questions to others who may sit the exam later (eg due to a clash). A student could ask to go the the toilet with a phone in their pocket and google an answer etc.

Posters display this information both in and outside the examination rooms. Inspectors from the exam boards can call unannounced at any time to check regulations are being followed. The posters clearly state the penalty for breaking the rules could be disqualification. Exam boards like Cambridge provide an instruction booklet for invigilators to read from directly at the start of the exam and this again includes the instruction to hand in any unauthorised items. So students are warned by their teachers before going into the exam, warned by the posters inside and outside the room and warned by the invigilator. Students know they need to take responsibility for this. 'Forgetting' is not an acceptable excuse. They have a responsibility to fulfill and are certainly old enough to be expected to do so in these circumstances.

Harsh as it may sound the rules are there for a reason and have to be enforced consistently and without favour (as the OP clearly accepts). I'm very surprised that there are people on here who would argue that the rules should not be applied because they don't believe there was any 'ill intent' involved. It really doesn't matter whether someone has a phone on them and is intending to cheat or simply forgot about it being there. They still broke the rule. As others have said the exam board will read the submitted report from the invigilators and make a decision about the penalty from that. That is fair and ensures there is not one, blanket penalty meted out. But to suggest there should be no action taken or no penalty given for rule breaking in an externally administered exam is very unrealistic (and I know not something the OP herself has advocated for).

OP I hope your son has a good outcome from the exam board. I hope others who have criticised the way the system is administered can develop a greater level of understanding about why it is important to have this rule. It is not just (or even primarily) about peace and quiet. It is about maintaining the integrity of an examination which is directly linked to the individual's university application(s) and therefore has to be known to be truly reflective of their own performance, without any possibility of cheating or unfair advantage being gained or sought.

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Applecheeks · 18/06/2015 09:42

UPDATE
Just had a call from the Exams Officer at DS's school. DS will receive zero points for the Biology paper. It's the outcome we were expecting and we're very relieved that he won't incur any penalties on the other papers he took with that board. I can now tell anyone else who ever finds themselves in this situation that the board took four working days to issue the penalty. The school took five working days to submit it. Thank you for all the support and help I really appreciate it xx

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Golfhotelromeofoxtrot · 18/06/2015 10:20

Best of luck for the future- I'm glad it isn't a more severe punishment.

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adoptmama · 18/06/2015 10:22

AS Golf says, I 'm glad that he didn't face a more severe penalty.

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JugglingFromHereToThere · 18/06/2015 10:34

Very glad to hear it has been resolved for you and DS now Applecheeks
Hope your DS especially is OK with the outcome and can still proceed with his plans for next steps without it causing too many problems for him x

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Coconutty · 18/06/2015 18:11

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muminhants1 · 19/06/2015 11:23

I'm glad it wasn't harsher and only affected that one paper. Hopefully he'll have done well on the other papers, so his overall grade will be sufficient for his college place. Definitely a lesson learnt the hard way but I'm really glad it wasn't worse.

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