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I am so lonely

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lucyellensmum · 02/08/2008 23:17

Thats it really, i am just so crushingly lonely. I am a SAHM but the loneliness hits me when i am with DP. I have put him through hell with my depression so i can understand that he has limited sympathy for me. But his coldness is making me feel isolated and frightened.

It was my dads birthday today so i had to take flowers to his grave. This upset me deeply for several reasons. Mostly because i had been selfishly avoiding this as a little boy has been buried next to him who would be exactly my DDs age and i thought i wouldnt be able to handle it. It was so very sad today, all his toys on his grave, he clearly loved the night garden and his parents have put all his night-garden stuff up there for him - really lovely. My DD wanted to play with them but i said she could only look and not touch. I had to plant my Dad's flowers quickly and leave as i knew i was going to break down.

DP had been horrible too me because i had left the house keys in the house and he had to get in the back window (LONG story). So i knew i would get no sympathy from him. Then we had to go to the inlaws and i couldnt help it, i just sat in the back of the car, and i couldnt stop the tears. I didnt make any sound but DP noticed and said sorry for being mean - that was that. Went to inlaws, stayed too late, DD played up going to bed, resulting in DP getting angry, talking at me in his horrible voice and saying that DD was only doing this because we got back late, because i made him late forgetting the keys. funnily enough, i had other things on my mind just at that point .

Now he is sulking after putting DD to bed (she wont have me thanks to him pandering to her every whim, but now hes getting stressed because she is being difficult at bedtime - yeah well, i did it for two years no let up, your turn buddy).

I dont know if i was crying for my Dad or me really, there was a song on the radio about a man who loved his woman so much and he would never let her be "lost" alone. and that is just exactly how i felt/feel - like i am floundering, alone and having to battle all the time to be a "happy family". Its almost like when he is at work, i can fool myself, but weekends always end up with me posting here, hating myself and wishing that i was "in love" again.

I miss that whole feeling of being "looked after" and "protected" and WANTED. He used to be proud of me, he isn't now. I said that lots of men are proud of their women who give up their careers to do the childcare, but he said i didnt have a career as i didnt actually have a job past my PhD, which to me was a job in itself, its post graduate work that end in a qualification, its not like study. But hey, thats how he sees it. Im not sure really, how he sees me.

I am trying to change, but today i really tried, i did my hair, put on some make up, he didnt notice. He has just come down from DD and has put the TV on, asked me if i wanted toast and gone and sat down. I went to ask him if he wanted half the beer i saved him but he was clearly not in the mood for a chat.

Is this how it is when you have children? Is it just the stresses and strains of parenthood and work/life, do this to a relationship - should i just sit it out and hope that it will get better when DD gets easier?

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lucyellensmum · 05/08/2008 09:37

I hope you feel better this morning, you sound like you are really going through the mill just now.

How many children do you have? Not seven i hope nTell me about your children.

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TheMagnificent7 · 05/08/2008 16:19

Hello

No it didn't get anybetter, worse. I can't beg any more. The smugness and the smiling have broken me. I can;t even be bothered to open the solicitors letter today. I've lost everything, and my dignity was the last straw. Can't do this anymore.

Thank you for all your kind words. I wish I'd come here sooner. Sorry for dumping my problems on you. I'll leave you be.

Before you all start on the all men are bullying bastards thing, I'm male. She has taken everything, and now she's withholding my daughter and deliberately giving her to friends and childmonders to care for just to spite me because I upset her friend and told my daughter she is ill with drink. I work, I pay for everything, and I care for my 4 year old 6 days out of 7. She has stopped ALL access for the last 13 days, and my court order giving me full custoday will be another month. She laughs and makes my daughter ask if she can give me a cuddle, then tells her no. It's been two years. She left me the week my Mum died because it was a great opportunity, and because I was putting her in rehab.

Her bullying has broken me. I'm so so lonely. I don't even have my daughter now. It won't ever change. It's the taunts and the smiling that have killed me.

Wasn't ever going to tell anyone here that I'm a man. You all have so many opinions, and the stupid idiots on here that think men don't have feelings or can't be bullied or the real fucking crusher "oh there's no smoke without fire" have contributed to my life of fear and crushing embaressment that this had happened. I was a handsome, successful, confident father. Now I just want final peace. Ive told her she can have my daughter for good. The fighting is affecting her, and it won't stop if I'm around. I can't bear the thought of her being farmed out to childminders, which she hates, just to spite me.

It's all over. Thanks for your support. I desperately hope your opinion hasn't changed now you know my story.

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lulumama · 05/08/2008 16:25

it sounds as though is the time you really need outside support and help, you will find non judgemental help here. and support, from those who have suffered domestic violence/ abuse and who have depression. do you have a solicitor? do you have good friends who are supporting you? i really don;t think your gender makes one iota of difference.

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TheMagnificent7 · 05/08/2008 16:35

I've no fight left lulu, but thanks. And i'm not starting a row, but it has made a total difference. Nobody believes this happens to men, nobody that matters anyway. I live in Bromley and they officially don't recognise male abuse. Thats council policy. The only reason I ever even got noticed by them is because I'm disabled too . The voluntary sector liaison manager said it made up her numbers which was good.

It's a cruel cruel world if you are a little different.

Thanks again everyone.

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lucyellensmum · 05/08/2008 16:37

TM7, i seem to remember you posting on a thread before saying you are a man. As lulumama said, it doesn't matter. In fact i HATE all the "all men are bastards" bullshit on here, and in RL.

Your post has made me feel very sad. You HAVE to fight back, are you saying your ex has a drink problem? You should fight for your daughter - for her sake. You are clearly highly intelligent, that comes from your posting style. Please PLEASE don't give up. I'm confused, you say you have custody soon? Whats gone wrong? Please keep talking, you are not dumping your problems, we are here to help each other. CAT me if you don't want to do it in public

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lulumama · 05/08/2008 16:38

I am sure the people on this thread beleive you the problem is , when you are depressed, you don;t have the energy to be the lone voice and crusader for men's rights and to highlight that domestic abuse can be perpetuated by women.

i hope you find some peace, and continue to forge a strong relationship with your child.

there are no easy answers or solutions here

at the least, i hope you are getting support and appropriate medication/ counselling etc in real life

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lucyellensmum · 05/08/2008 16:40

i actually so know thisd can happen to men, my mum wasterrible to my dad

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lucyellensmum · 05/08/2008 16:43

Keep posting TM7, to let us know you are OK. Think about phoning the samaritans, i feel a bit out of my depth with this and i don't want to say the wrong thing. I am more than happy to listen though, so not abandoning you, i just feel you need something more tangable just now.

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ToughDaddy · 05/08/2008 18:21

Easy to get dragged down especially as the news is all so bad - I noticed it when I got back from hols last month. Things are dipping in the UK and things are tight for many. Am in personal battle to counter have to counter negative bias so I take two steps:

1)I am keeping in my head 3 things that have gone the right way in my life so that I maintain a positive backdrop.

2)I am keeping a notebook where I DUMP all the little things that need to be done (admin, DIY, chores). When I complete something, I cross it out. For me this is therapy as it stops me trying to carry all the crap in my head. Nothing original here but I keep my old notebooks so that I can see progress and how much crap I sort out over time.

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ToughDaddy · 05/08/2008 18:22

Not suggesting that this is any help for M7 or LEM; just personal thoughts

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lucyellensmum · 05/08/2008 18:54

Thankyou for your thoughts TD. I know what you mean about the news - i tend to switch off when i see the news on telly - stick my fingers in my ears and go la la la la la.

I think the notebook is a good idea, im keeping a diary for the mental health team. This is only day two and ive already filled 3 pages of a4 in a small font!

Loving the to do list - i used to do this at work, loved crossing things off - i just dont have a book big enough just now

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ToughDaddy · 05/08/2008 19:23

Am I allowed to ask what your PhD was about (roughly)?

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lucyellensmum · 05/08/2008 20:16

of course, thanks for asking, it is in genetics (Very roughly)

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lucyellensmum · 05/08/2008 21:00

tm7 are you ok?

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ToughDaddy · 05/08/2008 21:04

very interesting area. Should not be the hardest area to get back into? Or will you do something a bit different when you go back? Did you sail through PhD or did you doubt at times, that you would finish it? Most people I know had doubts.

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lucyellensmum · 05/08/2008 21:30

The phrase, by the skin of the skin of the skin of my teeth would be appropriate I don't know anyone who is actually happy with their PhD. My PhD was in a very specialised area and positions are few and far between. I most likely wont go back - am considering teaching.

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ToughDaddy · 05/08/2008 21:44

i am deducing that u did it whilst bringing up a little one? Some achievement?! My dad didn't bother finishing his. Friend of mine was top top student at Uni and spent about 7 years not finishing his. So well done to you.

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lucyellensmum · 05/08/2008 22:28

I was at the amount of people who don't finish writing up. I had DD right in the middle of my write up and i came within millimeteres of giving up - i just have to ask myself was it worth it?

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ToughDaddy · 06/08/2008 06:37

Bloody hell; that was some feat. Really well done to you! If you hadn't done you PhD then you would be forever asking yourself why didn't you do it. You should be so proud. It is one of the positive things that you should carry with you forever!!!!

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lucyellensmum · 06/08/2008 09:58

thankyou TD, very kind of you

TM7 how are you today? Please post just to let me know you are OK. Tomorrow is another day and you need to find your strength again.

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ConstanceWearing · 06/08/2008 15:28

Emotions aren't gender specific, TM7. We care if a man is struggling, as much as if a woman is. It's not about gender, it's about supporting the person who posts, whoever that is.

I hope you are okay. We'd like to know that you are...

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ToughDaddy · 06/08/2008 15:58

This is a support site used by more women than men. So naturally it picks up the negative bias from stories about bad men/wronged women.

We all sterotype and generalise which is okay to a degree .... when I see unfair over-generalisations about blokes on MN it often doesn't seem appropriate (or worthwhile) to challenge. For example, I have many male friends, some are saints and a few play away but I wouldn't put the "male perspective" into the relevant threads.

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ToughDaddy · 06/08/2008 15:59

stereotype was obviously mistyped above

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lucyellensmum · 06/08/2008 20:23

Have had a really horrible day today, ive just felt useless and everything was too much for me. I am trying to get DDs room sorted, she is still sleeping in our bedroom, but it just felt impossible today, theres not much stuff left to sort out, just tidy it up, but i stood there and felt like crying. Potty training going tits up. I just felt completely shit. It felt like PMT, but i dont get periods due to marina coil.

WHY WHY WHY do i feel like this?

Tough daddy, thankyou for your kind comments re my PhD, but sometimes having it makes me feel even more useless as i don't use it. I feel like i will always only ever be able to be someones cleaning lady or shop assistant.

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ToughDaddy · 06/08/2008 21:12

I always think of PhD like a karate black belt. You don't have to use it everyday but it is a skill that shapes you. Just had a tangential thought: have you considered taking up martial arts? Can be therapeutic and do all round good?

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