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DH does no childcare. Nothing. Please help me see clearly.

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blistersclots · 03/05/2016 23:36

DH and I have been married 5 years. We both worked for ourselves and we agreed that when we had DC that we did not know what it would be like and would both contribute towards childcare and “see how things turned out.”

When we got married, DH already owned two properties, and when we had much anticipated DD 2.5 years ago, DH transferred half of both properties into my name and created a joint bank account and made me a Director of his company, giving me access to the company’s profits and his salary (this seems relevant, to me at least, as I mention later.)

When DD arrived and I was BF-ing on demand, it naturally transpired that I gave up half of my work and DH’s business took off. What also transpired was that DH just did not/could not look after DD by himself. Since the day she was born, he has not changed nappies, dressed her, played with her, fed her, bathed her, got her up, put her to bed, put her in the car, lifted or held her for more than 1 minute, or made her a drink by himself.

For the first few months after DD was born, I thought it was shock/lack of experience that led to him doing nothing, and then we somehow got into a habit where I did absolutely everything anyway and no longer left her with him, even though he had the free time and opportunity to take her. I worked my part time hours during DD’s naps and after she went to bed, but it just didn’t work because clients needed me on the end of the phone during normal working hours and not at night, so I stopped work.

When DD was 8 months old, I got pregnant again and my next natural strategy was to try to get some childcare, with the end hope of maybe managing to work a bit again. We spoke to a few nannies and nurseries, but DH came up with excuses and problems with everyone we interviewed and every nursery we visited. He eventually revealed that he felt strongly that nothing was better for DC than being solely with their own mother until they go to school, a view he had not previously come out with. Childcare plans were abandoned, I had DS and gave up my days to BF-ing newborn again and taking care of toddler DD. The pattern was already established that I did everything with one DC, so it continued into two DC.

DH’s average weekday is from 8am-1am, pushing his business, entertaining clients in the evenings, and travelling, and I am with DD and DS all day. Aside from sleep problems and illness (of which the DCs have had many) I usually put them to bed and sit alone in the evenings. When DH has time off he is “exhausted” and wants to stay in bed or lie on the sofa and watch TV.

I have brought this issue up with him many times and I know you’ll find it hard to believe, but he genuinely does not think he is an unavailable father. He absolutely and truly believes that he is a perfect father because he “provides” for them. He can be affectionate – he likes to kiss and hug them, but this lasts for maybe a few seconds a day, and because they are just not used to him being around, they often cry and flinch when he does it because he goes from not interacting with them at all, to being all over them.

I can cite so many outstandingly unfair examples from the last 2.5 years of when he has left me completely unable to cope, but he has two excuses which he uses interchangeably 1. The situation where he did not do anything was an exception and it was because he was more exhausted than me or ill And 2. That he is carrying the burden of our family finances, and I am oblivious to the kind of stress he is under building his business “for us”, now that I no longer work.

I feel he is a hypocrite and has put me in an impossible situation by saying work stress is the reason he does not do more, but not allowing that stress to be reduced by letting me work to ease the burden. The answer I get when I tell friends/family about this is “surely you knew he was like this going in?” Apparently this is because he is a renowned workaholic and anyone could have guessed he would never look after DCs and they assumed I was also the traditional sort who wanted to stay at home and dedicate my life to children and have DH go to work. No. That’s not what we agreed.

A further development is that I am now pregnant again with DC3 and I have a huge sense of dread at having DH who will not back me up, a toddler, a baby and a newborn to care for by myself and never being able to have a break because of DH's hatred of any childcare except for mine. I have communicated this dread to him very clearly and we have argued about it. He has made one change and it is that he now does 60% of the housework, which has made things slightly better but still does not address the fundamental problem, which is that I am bringing the DCs up alone.

I have lost some respect for him because I feel so damn hurt that he cannot see or does not care that I am unhappy and in a situation I didn’t sign up to.
Even worse is that he dips in and out with complaints and niggly details which show how far removed he is from what a life with DC is like. He doesn’t like how DD throws her food on the floor and could I please try to stop her doing it, as it gets on the carpet? He doesn't like how DS screams, could I please try and stop him? He read an article today which says that children should be outside for 30% of the day. How much time do I give our DC outside? Could I time it next time and make sure that I am giving them the required amount?

As I have access to all his company funds and our bank account, I can use the money as I wish. I have paid for childcare in secret from this bank account when I really needed it by withdrawing cash and pretending it went on something else - but I don’t want to have to do it in secret!

He knows and I know (and we have acknowledged, indirectly, to each other during a crisis point) that I could leave tomorrow and take half of everything, and give him 50% custody of the DCs, meaning he would have to step up. Even after this conversation and acknowledgement of what would happen if we split, he has continued to share all assets with me (he bought another house for my parents and put it solely in my name) – so it doesn’t make logical sense to me that he is putting me in this situation because he is a complete bastard twunt, if you see what I mean? It just makes me feel that he is so signed up to this ideal of him being the perfect provider and me being the perfect mother that he cannot shift his perspective at all.

Everyone has told me that it gets easier once the DCs go to school, because then you at least have some free time to yourself. But it is frustrating knowing that we can afford some childcare NOW but he is so against it. Also, no nanny wants to work last minute, in secret. So on the rare occasions when I am at my wit’s end and DH is safely off at work and not returning until late, it is only random, interchangeable agency babysitters who can come round and watch the DC when I have terrible morning sickness - not more permanent figures in the DC’s lives who they can become familiar with.

Is there something I’m missing here? Is there a logic or a solution I am not seeing? Is this just what it is like for some people? That some Hs that you think would be great Dads just pull total shockers and do absolutely nothing?

If I can put the resentment and sense of unfairness aside, our marriage is fine. We still laugh, we still have sex, we still do kind little loving things for each other. IF - and it's a big if - I can put the resentment aside. But it is becoming increasingly hard. He will go out of his way for me, but only in ways that have nothing to do with the DC, which is the only way I really want to be helped right now.

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BeautifulMaudOHara · 04/05/2016 14:50

Have only read your OP but omg, LTB, really. He sounds awful.

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scandichick · 04/05/2016 15:02

Buttons, it's not normal not to have any relationship with your children beyond the occasional cuddle. He can't parent the children because he doesn't know them. That's a huge problem, not least because I can see him being a very authoritarian parent to teenagers, who are unlikely to listen to a man they hardly know.

OP, I think you'll have to accept you won't please everyone (I.e. your in-laws). The current setup does not make you happy, therefore it will have to change. If your husband is unwilling to do more childcare, you're going to get some external help. His choice. I think it's worth the fight, but change won't come easily. It sounds like your husband has a great narrative of his life and how great he is, and anything challenging that will be fought tooth and nail.

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WriteforFun1 · 04/05/2016 15:42

OP the other thing I'd say is that this was his plan all along.

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Divathecat · 04/05/2016 16:15

Why are you having sex with this man?

He doesn't have to work 8am - 1am, that's to avoid family life. He is shafting you.

Your children will grow up thinking that their father doesn't like them, is that what you want?

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ShebaShimmyShake · 04/05/2016 16:23

You're in a gildee cage. Your husband is controlling and selfish. He doesn't get brownie points for giving you the assets that are legally yours, and when it's only to cement the family dynamics that he unilaterally decided you were going to live by. If "just" looking after kids were that easy then sorry, but more men would do it. He wants to be the master of the house, feeling like you all depend on him like cute little possessions that he can overlook and supervise and own.

You did not choose to be a sahm and he has railroaded you into it while making you feel guilty for feeling trapped and miserable. If he won't listen to you on this, seriously consider setting up a happy and fulfilling life without him. You'll be no worse off in terms of lone parenting and finances (you're married, you can prove you did all childcare, you'll be awarded what you have now), and you won't have to creep around terrified to get some childcare or get an identity that isn't defined by him.

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QuiteLikely5 · 04/05/2016 16:48

Assets in your name? You seem to think that's a very kind gesture - no it isn't it is probably for business reasons! As in if his business goes bust the creditors can't touch the assets that are in your sole name!

Also he knows that being married the law states the property belongs to both of you.

I'm afraid you have been swept away with his generosity and so on but apart from his money he gives you nothing! No time, no parenting and the issue is your needs are not getting met.

If you meant anything to this man he would not object to you using a nursery a few days per week whilst you have s rest because believe me when No 3 arrives you are going to really feel the pain of being a single parent!

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HelenaDove · 04/05/2016 17:41

What contraception have you been using OP Is it condoms? Are they accessible to you now? Could you take one and stick it under the tap, run some water through it and check it doesnt leak?

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WriteforFun1 · 04/05/2016 18:09

Helena, I think any guy doing that would do it on the day if possible, or keep the pack on his person. So even if OP tries and no leaks, I'd still be suspicious I'm afraid.

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HelenaDove · 04/05/2016 18:13

So would i i was just typing as i was thinking. This whole thing reeks of reproductive coercion.

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dailymailphequers · 04/05/2016 18:14

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HelenaDove · 04/05/2016 18:18

dailymail the OP is being emotionally abused by her DH AND the in laws. And depending how strict they are about the Catholicism aspect they could well be bullying her about contraception as well.

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JonSnowsBeardClippings · 04/05/2016 18:26

Why does his opinion on childcare and you working trump yours?

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WriteforFun1 · 04/05/2016 18:28

IT might be but I didn't see Catholic mentioned?
I'm not clear if the DC were planned but tbh OP you seem like you are being quite passive generally, maybe because you feel trapped. I'm also really puzzled by the working hours, it's just him having fun I reckon. He's not interested in the children at all. I don't think it's right for them to grow up like this.

He sounds like the sort of guy who just wants to show off that he had children.

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Annarose2014 · 04/05/2016 18:29

If I can put the resentment and sense of unfairness aside, our marriage is fine. We still laugh, we still have sex, we still do kind little loving things for each other.

It's fine??? Really??

You're utterly and totally miserable!

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BonerSibary · 04/05/2016 19:09

Buttons OP being a SAHM is a luxury for him, not her! OP says very clearly she wanted to continue working, and it is DH who wants her to be at home with the children until they start school. SAHPing is not a luxury if you don't want to do it. She has also made it quite clear that he literally won't care for them in any circumstance.

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raisedbyguineapigs · 04/05/2016 19:15

When do you have time to have fun and sex if he's working 8am to 1am and doing 60% of the housework? If he has time to do 60% of the housework, he has time to pay a cleaner and spend time with his kids. write The husbands family are strict Catholics. I could well imagine that his views of contraception have been affected by his upbringing.

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HelenaDove · 04/05/2016 19:24

From the OPs post at 12.18.






DC3 I wanted to have a termination, but DH begged me not to and we both got guilt tripped by his catholic family for even considering it.

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YonicTrowel · 04/05/2016 19:28

This sounds horrendous, OP.

His opinion on children he never bothers with is irrelevant. Especially if it's driven by some % based article. He's obviously editing out any articles that don't suit him eg to do with fathers actually parenting.

Hire help. This is to give your brain a breather. It's none of his business if he isn't helping. Call the help an outdoor play consultant if you like.

Why has he changed on housework but is waiting fir DC3 to change on kids? He has two live kids in front of him now to deal with. Better that you hire a cleaner and he changes a nappy and takes them swimming, FFS.

Once you have a moment to think, consider carefully LTB. Yes, you won't have as much money, but you will be less utterly miserable.

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ChicRock · 04/05/2016 19:30

Get sterilised. Hire as much childcare as you like. Get a job. Squirrel as much money away as you can. Start taking some control of your own life.

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HelenaDove · 04/05/2016 19:37

There is a sterilisation procedure called Essure. I dont know what its like but its a quick procedure . I wanted to be sterilised myself as im childfree by choice (your DH + his family would love me Grin ) but i could never afford it and the NHS tends to refuse women who dont have children. I was still in my twenties when i asked .

Im in my 40s now.

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BerylStreep · 04/05/2016 19:40

Based on your OP alone, I would arrange a permanent nanny housekeeper (if you can find one) to help with housework & childcare. If your H won't pull his weight, he doesn't get to have a say in how you manage the house. You need help, you have the money to get help, and he won't help.

I know that doesn't solve the problem of his ingrained attitude towards your role, but at least you aren't carrying the burden yourself. Once you have childcare & help with the house sorted, you can decide if you want to take up work again, if even for your sanity / independence.

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Blistersclots · 04/05/2016 19:55

You have all really given me a wake up call...

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HelenaDove · 04/05/2016 19:58

What do you do for contraception Blister?

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InionEile · 04/05/2016 20:03

You need to start taking control of your life and deciding what's important to you rather than what is important to your DH, MIL, parents etc. Also you need to start taking control of contraception and make sure there are no more accidents. Ask your GP about an IUD or even sterilization options once you have DC3.

And your MIL is EIGHTY years of age - what would she know about parenting and marriage in 2016? She lived a totally different reality to you and her ideas are so out of date. Do MIL or your parents ever take care of the DC for you or help out? If not then their opinions on child-rearing are irrelevant. They are not raising your kids, you are so you get to decide.

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