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Reality check

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Cherub1066 · 27/08/2014 08:47

I'm in a somewhat on off relationship where partner wants more commitment and to move in with me. This hasn't happened as we have had several nasty break ups . He often seems to hate me and goes into a cycle of nastiness which he justifies as he has something from my past which he has used again and again.

Most recently we were on holiday together and had a row. The upshot was he told me there was no point being with me, I was a liar and a cheat and would never change, I had conned him into a relationship by telling him what he wanted to hear, I didn't want the things he wanted and If I got into another relationship I should inform the person that I had no time for them as a single mum. He then left, just walked off the holiday.

I texted and called saying this is silly and offered to pick him up at the station. He replied I was an entitled asshole and he didn't want to hear from me.

What I want to check is that, in the above circumstances, would you feel that you had been dumped? Because a few days later he started communicating normally and complaining I hadn't been in touch as I was "punishing" him and I was pathetic. He went on to tell me I was entitled etc and by taking offence at being told so, I am not "allowing" him an opinion.

I feel like he split up with me (again) and now is playing the injured party. He also totally justified everything he said. I am a button-pusher I had "gone on" at him to get a reaction and then I got one. He is moody and says I must take responsibility for his moods as I cause them with my lack of communication.

He continued this train and I refused to take responsibility or back down in any way, playing hard ball until he said i should stop wasting our lives and dump him, so I did.

Immediate capitulation, he takes full responsibility for everything he said and is very sorry.

Basically, everything gets so mixed up I want to get it straight in my head starting from the point, if someone walks off you holiday after that conversation, would you feel they had ended the relationship?

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Cherub1066 · 28/08/2014 22:35

If that happens, Goodbye brave world and I'm sorry...but it really wasn't all my fault!!!

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AnyFucker · 28/08/2014 22:15

perhaps he will disappear so far up his own arse the universe will implode on itself ?

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tipsytrifle · 28/08/2014 22:09

applauding Cherub ...

Next text maybe no reply from you at all? Ever?

Hopefully he will go boom at your audacity and vanish into an alternate universe full of the sound of his own voice ...

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sonjadog · 28/08/2014 20:13

He sounds really, really horrible. I don't care what you have done in the past, nothing could deserve you being treated the way he is treating you. Let this be the final break up. You don't need to listen to his crap any more.

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AnyFucker · 28/08/2014 20:03

Woo-hoo. Brilliant.

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Cherub1066 · 28/08/2014 19:56

He wrote "pick up and talk or that's it, I won't text you again"

I replied "good, you're full of shit anyway"

So yes Anyfucker well spotted Wink

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Cherub1066 · 28/08/2014 19:53

And Anyfucker too, thank you

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Cherub1066 · 28/08/2014 19:53

Tipsy thanks for the encouragement

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AnyFucker · 28/08/2014 19:52

I hope you can stay strong, love

Stop listening to this man, you know he talks shit

who wants to be with someone that talks shit all the time ?

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Cherub1066 · 28/08/2014 19:49

Yes Anyfucker I extrapolated it that way too and made that point. It's not like I have spent all this time lapping up what he says but I did spend a year having to defend myself and it wasn't only to him. A lot of my family took the view that I'd blame in bringing trouble to their door as this ex nutter was intent on dragging everyone into it when I cut him off. So in a way I think I have been strong, not weak.

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Cherub1066 · 28/08/2014 19:46

Why does it sound like I prefer to be unhappy?

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AnyFucker · 28/08/2014 19:46

eh ?

the more you love someone the more abuse you should take ?

Good God

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tipsytrifle · 28/08/2014 19:43

Well a lot of this sounds like high-fallutin' wordery that is all about proving the efficacy of abuse as a denomination of love. In the world according to him.

He is utterly vile, Cherub. To engage with him at all is to degrade yourself. But that is my opinion only. I truly hope that you have finished with him ...

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thestamp · 28/08/2014 19:36

You sound like you would vastly prefer to be unhappy than happy. Good luck to you. He sounds like the right man for you, based on that.

Try to remember that there are children involved here OP.

I hope you come to your senses one day. I feel very sorry for you that you think THIS is what you are worth.

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Cherub1066 · 28/08/2014 19:31

And I didn't actually let him tell me, I argued, used statistics, defended myself. He just insists that women have a choice, to stay or to leave and he doesn't understand the socio economic or power imbalance of an abusive situation. In fact he has even said I must have loved the ex more than him because I took more abuse from the ex!!

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Cherub1066 · 28/08/2014 19:28

I do know and I don't think I want another relationship to be honest. Thanks for reading it all and your comments

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QueenQueenie · 28/08/2014 15:29

The more you tell us about him the shittier and more fucked up he sounds. You let him tell you for a year or more that you DESERVED to be abused by your previous partner?? That you MADE him abuse you??
You really don't have to put up with this crap you know. The fact that you have and do suggests to me that you need some help if you are to have a good chance of forming healthier relationships in the future and passing on to your children the right messages about relationships. This stuff is important you know if they are to end up with decent partners of their own...
Please stop joining in with his drama. Please get some counselling / help.

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Cherub1066 · 28/08/2014 12:24

Go of*

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Cherub1066 · 28/08/2014 12:24

I don't deny he has tried. Our relationship years ago was dating btw. He ended it with me then wanted me back when I was with someone else. I went from one to the other then made a break and tried to make a go off it.

I think we have both tried. I took a year of being told I had deserved the abuse and in fact probably caused it.

We moved on from that dialogue and then started going round in a different circle.

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AnyFucker · 28/08/2014 11:44

people you love

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AnyFucker · 28/08/2014 11:44

he "loves her" ?

no, he doesn't, he hates her. You don't treat you "love" like this

currently, OP is a conveniently safe emotional punching bag

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ouryve · 28/08/2014 11:40

The reality is that you don't have to put up with that crap. So what if you have less than a perfect past. A loving partner wouldn't constantly use it to keep you in your place.

Just get rid.

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Foolishlady · 28/08/2014 11:38

In fairness he could keep coming back because he loves her and because he is a damaged person can't see how unhealthy a situation this is - Jesus this is really one of those threads were the woman has behaved appallingly yet it is the man who is the abuser. I think you are really doing the right thing by breaking up because he doesn't seem to have the cop on to realise that he just can't handle the situation - and as you have said there are children involved. I'm not sure if I could be a big enough person to take on the children of the person my oh cheated on me with- most people couldn't. This guy's mistake is that he has tried, for whatever reason. I think it's possible that deep down he does hate you, as well as love you - definitely doesn't sound the most secure of individuals! But nobody has behaved well here.

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AnyFucker · 28/08/2014 11:24

*jabbing

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AnyFucker · 28/08/2014 11:23

he's keeps coming back just to stick the boot in a bit more to make himself feel like Mr Big Knob. You are not "stringing him along". he has free will, and he is using it to keep poking and abbing at you

cut him loose

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