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Suffocatingly "helpful" mother...

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Lostfraggle · 11/05/2014 15:22

Any advice on how to cope with my mother? I am in my mid 30s, married, 2 DC. Am finding my mother increasingly difficult to deal with, whilst feeling constant guilt that I should just be grateful as she is (a) trying to be helpful and (b) not as bad as some of the mothers / MILs I read about on the Relationships board and (c) all the things she does are in themselves really minor. But she has a stealth campaign of being incredibly "helpful". Some examples:

If you tell her you have any kind of plan (holiday, buy a new car, buy a new appliance) she will immediately start with questions like: isn't that going to be expensive, have you thought whether the weather there is any good at that time of year, will the youngest DC need a passport yet, do John Lewis even sell X item etc etc etc. My sister and I have just stopped telling her anything at all about our future plans, until it's a fait accompli. For example, my sister has decided to move house to a completely new town, and only told my mother when the new (rented) house was completely arranged. And my mother started with the "so it's unfurnished - are you going to need a new bed / sofa / table and chairs?". I feel like it's such a shame I can't share these things with her and get her support, because she just gets too overwhelming.

On even tiny things, she is just suffocatingly helpful. DH was struggling to put on his shoes this week, whilst holding something large, and as he was putting the large thing down she immediately leapt up and started fussing over his shoes, opening them wider so he wouldn't have to put the thing down. This sort of thing happens all the time when she is with us. If I am cooking, she starts fussing around me trying to tidy up, even when I ask her not to, and won't just sit down and relax. At a birthday party of one of the DC, without being asked, she started writing a list of who gave which present as the birthday child was opening the presents, which felt like an implicit criticism of me for not doing that. Fruit in the fruit bowl which is starting to go off is even known as "[Mum-nickname] fruit" in our extended family because she will specially choose that fruit to eat up, in order to be helpful.

She looks after the DC regularly (for which I am very grateful) and frequently decides to do some cleaning job, like cleaning the top of the oven extractor fan, or inside the cupboards, or the skirting, without being asked. Which winds me up no end, and makes me feel that she is criticising my housekeeping.

All these things sound by themselves very petty, but when she's with us, it feels pretty much like constant interfering and meddling. My dad had an affair when I was around 19, and they are now divorced (he married the OW) and she lives on her own - maybe she is doing this in order to feel wanted? (I think she still hasn't come to terms with him leaving). I have tried to ask her kindly not to do whatever the irritating thing is, but last time I did (yesterday), she literally huffed, stood up and stormed out of the room like a teenager saying very stroppily "can't a person even try to be a little bit helpful, I suppose if it's not even wanted..." in front of a bunch of other people!

How do I cope with all this? Has anyone else managed to communicate their frustration to their mother without her being massively offended? Are there any good books I could read? I am starting to feel on edge when she's with us and really need to find a way to change the way I deal with her, and with my own reaction to her behaviour.

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DenzelWashington · 12/05/2014 17:04

Another daughter of an anxious retired teacher mother here. I'm both happy and sad to find so many of us.

I was saved from complete rupture with my mother by therapy. I have managed greatly to detach from what she does. I don't confront (usually, I lapsed at Christmas at my sister's and there was a horrid scene. My sister did get a lovely posh lunch out of it from me as an apology for putting her in the middle of it) or enable.

Interestingly my older sister has been fierce with our mother since childhood and gets very little of her smothering and anxiety as a result. My father enables it mostly, especially as he gets older. My younger sister vacillates between closeness and exasperation. I take a middle course.

I do feel real resentment sometimes, that my whole life has been lived oppressed to varying degrees by my mother's needs and anxiety, requiring special efforts to reassure her, accommodate her feelings (if not put them first), hide things, the list goes on. Being pressurised to go to the local Uni (which didn't do the course I wanted to do) because she didn't like us children leaving home (I did refuse), her using my house as though it were her own and angrily resisting all efforts by me to stop her turning up unannounced and rearranging things to suit her, answering my phone before I could etc, making everything about her worries, even my catastrophic illness.

And yet, she is also a very nice, intelligent and interesting person who loves her children unconditionally, whom I love, respect and admire in turn.

Sadly though, we children spend a lot of time communicating with each other and our father on a 'Don't tell Mum' basis, but it's the only way. She can't nag/worry/organise if she doesn't know about it. Even more sadly the older grandchildren are now starting to complain about it all. She'd be devastated if she knew.

Don't feel guilty though. The fact that you love someone is not a good enough reason to make them subsume all their needs to yours, hand over control of their lives to you or be desperately unhappy.

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Sherlockholmes221b · 12/05/2014 17:43

I have a MIL who comes round, always earlier than invited i.e. before lunchtime when it's a dinner invite. Watches me make lunch and tidy up, enquires around 6:30pm 'if the sun's over the yard arm', then sits with her wine and watches me prepare dinner, then watches me and the kids tidy up dinner. Can I swap her for your mum?
In her defence she has many wonderful qualities and is a very loving MIL and Granny, always happy to look after the kids when needed. Under the circumstances I can forgive a lot. The Spanish Inquisition your mum gives you sounds tiresome but maybe you should relax and enjoy the helpfulness on the child rearing/house keeping front and not feel she's indirectly criticising you, I'm sure she isn't, as you say yourself she just wants to feel loved, needed and useful!

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atos35 · 12/05/2014 19:47

She sounds just like my mum, are you my sister op?! I know exactly how you feel. I live 200 miles away from my Mum and she came to stay last weekend. The first thing she did when she arrived was go straight into the kitchen and start unloading the dishwasher! When I protested she said 'but I'm here to help you, that's why I'm here'. When I said I thought she had come to spend quality time with us all she got a bit huffy! It happens all the time. When I had my second ds she announced she was coming to stay for two weeks because I would need her help and couldn't possibly manage without her. My dp had to firmly point out that he was here to help me and that her offer to help was appreciated but not necessary. I have talked to her so many times about this but she just doesn't get it. She's my mum and I love her dearly but sometimes I find it unbearable! I'm interested in reading others responses as nothing I say makes any difference. Good luck op.

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rumbleinthrjungle · 12/05/2014 21:14

Ella yes, that's crossed my mind. Sad The bench incident was four years ago and I haven't seen anything worsen since then, but I suspect it will go that way eventually as it did with her mum (and probably eventually me too, sigh.) . In her own routine she's fine, its the unexpected and stressful that throws her. Give her a crossword and she'll solve it in seconds, it's the social stuff that throws her.

Lostfraggle I don't think she does find the rest of the world chaotic - she's aware she finds it hard to cope with unplanned/spontaneous and I think looks on people who can do that with envy.

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Fletcherl · 12/05/2014 21:34

This sounds like my MIL except that the behaviour only includes DH not grandchildren. Famously I walked down 130 steep steps to a beach carrying a buggy, baby, changing bag and helping a toddler. FIL and MIL were both holding umbrellas over DH head so he wasn't in the sun so he couldn't help and neither could they.
We found taking them to the pub at a fixed point eg from 8-9pm every first Sunday in the month worked well. They knew they would see DH and all the details of time and place and then they could just relax and be good company.

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Lostfraggle · 13/05/2014 21:25

Thanks for all the further thoughts / experiences. atos35 - I do have a sister but I don't think it's you! Grin Although I can imagine my mum emptying my dishwasher in that situation!

Fletcherl Shock That is ridiculous! Did you DH not insist on helping you, even if that meant being in the sun? Or at least helping your toddler?

Denzel that sounds pretty extreme. Glad to hear that therapy helped and you now have ways of living with it. I don't think my mum is that bad (yet?!), although there is definitely a "don't tell mum" pact between my sister and me on all sorts of things...

She is arriving tonight to look after the children tomorrow - it's one of the DC's birthdays (although DH and I unfortunately are both at work) - wish me luck! I will report back the trivial over-helping incidents (there are always some)! And try very hard to take a deep breath. I have even thought of a (genuinely useful) job for her...

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