So 47% of current Y6 are failures.

[noblegiraffe]

Or at least they would be labelled as such if they were a year younger.

This time next year, those who don't meet the expected level in their KS2 SATs will be forced to resit them in December of Y7 (and, I believe, again in June if they still don't pass).

Today's figures are:

53% of pupils met the new expected standard in reading, writing and mathematics
66% of pupils met the new expected standard in reading
70% of pupils met the new expected standard in mathematics
72% of pupils met the new expected standard in grammar, punctuation and spelling
74% of pupils met the new expected standard in writing

That's an awful lot of kids whose transition to secondary school will be blighted by the expectation of lunch/tutor/after school intervention and possibly summer school.

[ParadiseCity]

It's not the same - none of those examples are based on a test which has been criticised by teachers so much. This test is not worth the paper it was printed on. Telling half of Y6 kids they have failed is a shitty thing to do. The system has failed them not the other way round.

I am proud of my son for doing his best - I have no idea if he has passed or failed - and either way I will not be splashing it on Facebook.

[EricXXGmex]

The sports example are based on tests (which we often call 'races' in sports) designed to find the very best (at doing those tests / races)

Badbadbunny is correct to point out that it is socially acceptable to celebrate your child doing well in such a test/race.

For all their faults, the SATS are testing something. Maybe to continue the analogy, it's like asking year 6 to compete in a foot race with a year 8 - some year 6s would still do very well in such a race, in the same way that some year 6s have done well in their SATS.

Academically able kids get this a lot. No-one ever says to the fast runner 'hey, you're so fast at running, I bet your parents force you to train' or 'you can already run faster than all the other children, so you can help the teacher by timing the others, rather than running yourself' or 'you can only run as fast as the fastest of the other children'

[PonderingProsecco]

Mmm- analogy doesn't work for me.
My word you can tell the parents who hothoused for SATs around my way.
Most didn't [I don't think] but some obsessed parents priming their kids to find out how others have done [school reports just out].
Drummed into my ds that rather poor show to share results. Told him to walk away from children/ parents that are.
Bless him he has so neither of us know how his friends did!

[camaleon]

I never shared my kids results because I know is frown upon (even in an anonymous forum) and normally by the same people who are totally happy to post extensively about their political views, their latest career achievement or the film they watched the night before. Self-promotion/networking (whatever it means since it is based on self-promotion too)/being your own paparazzi seems to be totally acceptable, while being ridiculously proud of your child's achievements is not.

While I can't bring myself to do it, I truly enjoy posts by parents who boast about their kids.

[LovelyBath77]

We got the results today, just as expected (higher in English and just below 100 so slightly lower in Maths) School has 87% pass rate here.

I'm fine with that, especially as he does struggle with speed, the schools here do CAT tests anyway for secondary, so the SATs are used with these to give a better picture.

[Hobbybaker]

I don't really understand the results that we've received today, so I'd be grateful if someone could explain it to me.

My dd's scaled scores were:
spag 113
reading 115
maths 112

It says on the letter that the scores were scaled between 80 (min) and 120 (max) with 100 representing the expected standard.
Would my dd be classed as meeting the expected standard or above the expected standard with these scores?

I'm only asking because the scaled scores and the outcomes don't seem to match, and I can't find an explanation anywhere. Also, I don't want to pester the teacher atm.

Many thanks for your help in advance. I don't really get why schools put so much emphasis on these tests, but I would like to understand them anyway.

[PonderingProsecco]

Very good scores indeed.

[ParadiseCity]

Hobby baker they will simply class as having met requirements, it's as simple as that - pretty much you pass or you fail.

[BetweenTwoLungs]

I'm a year six teacher. In the SATs this year you could only score 'expected', no 'above expected' was possible. However, they are very good scores and all the children in my class who have achieved simile scores are children who I have assessed as being 'above expected'

I hope this helps - feel free to PM me if you need further clarification.

[Hobbybaker]

Then what is the GDS, and what would you have to have scored in order to get GDS as opposed to EXS? Sorry, I'm probably being thick, but I really don't get it. Thanks for any help!

[PonderingProsecco]

Don't think gov clarified greater depth yet.
I was told 100 threshold harder to achieve this year, so at expected requires more from pupils than previous years.

[mrz]

There isn't a score for greater depth (apparently there isn't going to be one either according to those in the know but of course with this gov. that may well change)

[Hobbybaker]

Ok. Thanks for explaining it to me.

[Flowerpower41]

It is interesting that parents of children who have passed SATS year 6 this year have put their marks on and written on this thread but nobody has discussed or ventured their marks on those who performed under the standard.
I feel quite sick at heart that prior to this year my ds met all standards every single year and although has never excelled at anything academic is by no means unintelligent but this year he has not met the 100 per cent mark and two of his 3 grades were very nearly 100 i.e. 97 and 99 and this was not taken into account in his school report.
I am quite disgusted that they have had to write what I view as quite a demoralising school report this year for my ds and the head teacher hasn't written a positive comment either. I know he can be a little unmotivated so is by now means perfect but they did not seem to take into account that this year the tests were much much harder and instead have just put the blame on ds .....!
I really do feel quite depressed about it all. Anybody else feeling the same?

[EverythingWillBeFine]

My ds has managed to pass all 3 but tbh this was a really big surprise for us (and him! He was extremely anxious about it). I didn't expect that.
However, I know that none of the reports show any if what you described. If anything reports were very much about what had been done this year rather than the SATS themselves, very much like it was fur dc1 last year.
I also know a school were the head made a point if saying none of the children who get less than 100 had failed (similar letter than the one that had done the rounds last year I think remembering children they are more than their SATS results.
This is certainly what came out from our reports. There wasn't one mention of the test at all.

[ParadiseCity]

Flowerpower I am so sorry your son's report wasn't better written. My DC report didn't mention SATs at all - they were given on a separate piece of paper with a letter explaining more about them. It sounds really horrible the way your school has done it. I hope his Y7 school is much more encouraging.

[Flowerpower41]

Thank you very much for your caring comments ParadiseCity.

[Flowerpower41]

Nothing was mentioned in terms of behaviour or character in ds's school report. Sorry if off topic just mightily cheesed off over it! All the school seems to have cared about is academic results.

[Callmegeoff]

I can understand that you feel cheesed off about it flowerpower

I attribute my dd passing hers to the tremendous amount of effort in tackling the new curriculum that her school put into it. Her school was ofsted needed improving and with a further ofsted looming they really got stuck in, not just dd but most of the children passed. 66% passed all 3 and this is a school in a very deprived area. The school also sent a few off that they judged unfairly marked to be remarked.
The letter home fully explained that the children hadn't 'failed' and had only 2 years to spend on the changed curriculum iyswim.

Ofsted visited just before the results and they are now rated 'good'

[Flowerpower41]

You are lucky Callmegeoff - we had no such letter. Nothing was explained about the fail and what it means!

They broke their back to get the results I don't fault the school as such and it is a very privileged school but I do think that teachers could more sensitively word the reports at times when they are writing about our prides and joy. Both her and the head teacher did not even write a simple line wishing him all the best in the future! I feel he has just been written off and dismissed as a fail.

[CookieDoughKid]

My school (state Primary ) just released their ks2 sats results. 84% pass for Maths and English. 87% for SPAG. I am not sure if this is a good result given the furore on mumsnet of how the SATS exam aren't that relevant. I THINK it's a good score. I'm sure the pupils worked very hard but I'm sceptical as many people on mumsnet don't think SATS is worth the paper it's written on. So I'm well confused. Perhaps a teacher can help explain.

[AndNowItsSeven]

How do you find out your child's school score?

[CookieDoughKid]

Ours was published today on school website.

[springwaters]

There isn't a score for greater depth (apparently there isn't going to be one either according to those in the know but of course with this gov. that may well change)

RAISEon line have said that the 2016 reports will show a scaled score and a high scaled score.

The high scaled score will be set by September.