Primary teacher? Do you use SIMS and Raise online?

[Wigeon]

Quick poll - at your school, as a teacher do you have access to SIMS and / or Raise online? In particular, for access to assessment data?

Thank you!

[prettydaisies]

We use something different now for our data and we can all see all the school's data and input it for our class and look at trends etc as well as work out how much progress the children have made.
We did use to use SIMs, but we had different log ins to the office staff so could only do things for our class and there's no way we had the authority to remove children etc.
Raise gets shared with us or we can look if we are interested!
Surely the class teachers are the ones who know the levels of the children. How can the head know? My head only knows what I tell her apart from Y6 sats results and these can't be fiddled.

[BerryGood]

The problem can be that SIMS also contains all staff/ pupil details.
On census day now (Oct 4th this year) everything on sims, attendence, roll, fsm, lac etc decides the school budget for the year.

We now use integris but I think SIMS is the same that if you allow data access you allow staff to view/ edit student details etc. One member of staff with little ICT training/ skills suddenly has the power to accidently take children off roll, change fsm status and all sorts of mess that is easily done with clicking around. They can also view information that possibly wouldn't be available to all staff with good reason, eg knowing all the LAC kids/ FSM across the school rather than just in your class. It's not that they don't want anyone to see it, it's just not good practice to have such data easily accessed (...stored on a memory stick and lost...)

Quite possibly it isn't shared as they aren't quite on top of it! It's a big job and can slide...

[Wigeon]

Am worried that at the school the Head and Deputy are very shy about sharing assessment data, either with the governors or with the teachers...trying to figure out why...one teacher suspects they are fiddling the data...was wondering whether not giving teachers access to SIMS was also a cause for concern, or whether it's not that unusual...

[GetStuffezd]

What's up then, wiggers?

[Wigeon]

Thank you for further replies .

So, so far, everyone either has direct access to SIMS (or other similar system), or is fed back as much data as they feel they need...hmm....

[juniper9]

We use Ppit for data input

[BerryGood]

The Head and I do at our school, quite common I think. We then break it down for staff to avoid destroying part of their souls overloading them with unnecessary date.

[mumblecrumble]

oooooh.... now yesterday I wouldn't have know this... but as of my first proper governor's training last night |I can tell you that we use:

Dashboard
Raise on line - head has overall password, governor's get selected data to protect data. We are encoruaged to read it well after it comes out in Feb.

'our local council' data - they do their own analysis which seems awesome, comes out much earlier, is easier to read and the 'headlines' are much clearer.


As a secondary teacher we had a slightly different to sims thing but produced similar info

Do you get a head teachers' report with similar data on?

[teacherwith2kids]

We use a slightly different non-SIMS system for analysing pupil progress, to which all staff have to enter data and from which we all create summary reports for our classes. There are also other data formats that the SMT, especially the deputy head, derive from these to help us to focus on specific issues.

I don't have access to Raise in my current school (used to be chief data wrangler in old, much smaller, school) but the data on it is shared freely.

[bsc]

I think Raise is only accessed by SLT, rather than all staff, but all staff use SIMS- have to for marksheets and registers.

[Hulababy]

Same as overmydeadbody

[Hulababy]

My school does - yes

[PotteringAlong]

We do registers on sims and input all of our data onto it.

[overmydeadbody]

Well at my school all the teachers have access to SIMS and have to input all their data themselves into it. We then have pupil progress meetings with SMT where we analyse the data, but it's up to us to input it.

[juniper9]

No, the staff and pupil network is separate from the office's network. They're the only ones with access to SIMS. I don't know what Raise is.

[louby44]

We have the same set up as NewName . It's not a secret but isn't available for teachers to just browse; it's something the SLT look at and share with us openly at staff meetings.

[NewNameforNewTerm]

What do you mean "have access to"? Our office computers (rather than teachers / classroom) hold the data. SLT analyse it and present the data and summary at staff meetings each term, Pupil Progress Meetings unpick the data further with each class teacher. We also have print it out of all their SIMs data. RAISEonline is similarly shared with staff.

You do see some teacher's eye glaze over at summary data meetings; they would rather look at individuals than complex sub-sets of cohorts. They need someone to present the points they need to look at e.g. this year summer born boys did well in maths Attainment Target 2, but not so well in AT4 ... why and what can you do to close this gap?

[Wigeon]

Am a governor at a primary school. None of the staff have access to SIMS or Raise online apart from the HT and Deputy HT. Am trying to get a sense of whether this is flipping weird, or not that unusual.

[overmydeadbody]

Why do you want to know?

[Wigeon]

Thank you for responses so far. Anyone else?

[QueenofLouisiana]

Yes. But I have SLT responsibilities too.

[GetStuffezd]

Yup!

[Ihatespiders]

SIMS here too

[sittinginthesun]

Governor here - yes, our teachers do.

[TheCheeseAlarm]

yes