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Reading books order after The Storm ORT?

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Iamnotminterested · 01/04/2013 19:38

Just that. Floppy has found the key and friend wants to know which books come next; I can't remember (or have I erased them from my memory?)

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simpson · 02/04/2013 19:19

When DS went into yr1 (he is now in yr3) he got his first magic key book but without reading the build up to it iyswim.

I thought WTF there is a door outside!!! And I was clueless to help him comprehend what was going on (as I had no clue!!)

Iamnotinterested - you know more than me, as I don't have a clue who writes them or why

Periwinkle007 · 02/04/2013 19:51

there are a few children in my daughter's reception class who have skipped level 4 and 5 so who have suddenly landed in magic key land at level 6. I dread to think what they and their parents made of it (mind they might have just sighed with relief that they had missed out so many)

simpson · 02/04/2013 19:57

I am still amazed that DD has managed to miss them all (apart from The Jigsaw Puzzle which she had just before Xmas).

I am breathing a sigh of relief!!

Periwinkle007 · 02/04/2013 20:19

you are oh so lucky. what books does she bring home?

up to level 6 we had a mix of Biff, snapdragons, fireflies, sunshine spirals, new way, Ginn etc. 7 and 8 we have just had fireflies and magic key. oh and some ORT Robins ones too about William and Hamid

simpson · 02/04/2013 20:32

She has had a bit of an odd mixture for the Easter holidays...

She has a treetops book called Purple Buttons (stage 10), 2 blue level Jolly phonics books (not looked at them yet), a chapter book about Spongebob Square Pants (which is not banded) and a Mog the cat book (which I assume is for her to read to herself).

simpson · 02/04/2013 20:33

She did get a couple of Heinemann books at around stage 6 which she loved...

Periwinkle007 · 02/04/2013 20:49

thats quite a nice mix there. we don't get anything extra for over the holidays. What are the treetops books like? Are they similar to the Early Reader books? my daughter is enjoying some of the early reader ones. I am not sure what our school have in the box for level 10. I don't think they have many as reception and year 1 have their own sets of books due to being on a different site. I know the boxes go up to 10 and then beyond that the teacher has some others put away but I don't know what they are (however I am incredibly nosy so just might have to ask :o))

eatyourveg · 02/04/2013 20:50

see here for how many books there are at each stage - ds1 always had more than 6 in one stage, the core books then the more stories pack A ones followed by the pack B ones

Taffeta · 02/04/2013 20:53

Re The Litter Queen, my DD had this last week and cried at Floppy's cut paw. I cried at the story structure - appalling.

Periwinkle007 · 02/04/2013 20:55

lol Taffeta

simpson · 02/04/2013 21:01

Taffeta

Periwinkle - they seem quite similar but maybe a bit wordier iyswim. There are some on the Oxford owl website I think. DD has to go into yr2 to get the treetops books.

The book people used to have a massive set of treetops books (stage 12-14 with 24 books altogether) that I bought for DS when he was in yr1 IIRC they were £10 for all 24 books.

Periwinkle007 · 02/04/2013 21:06

Yes I expect that Yr2 and 3 at my daughter's school probably have them but with them being on the other site they can't just go and get them. Perhaps that is what the teacher has put away. I suppose there aren't THAT many reception and Yr1 children reading that level so they don't have many just hanging around waiting for them. In Reception they have a few of them at level 7/8 but I think they are the highest in the year at the moment. My daughter reads level 9/10 very comfortably at home but I am not sure what school see from her and am hoping her new glasses will help and therefore they might suddenly see how well she can read. Not that it makes much difference as at home she reads whatever she wants and thats more important but I think she would be more interested in some of the harder books from what she says

simpson · 02/04/2013 21:15

The junior building (yr3 onwards) is round the other side from the infant building so I am not sure what will happen once DD finishes the books in the infant building as nobody went to get DS and 3 others books from juniors when they were in yr2.

I am hoping we can scrap the school scheme altogether by then!!

DD is on stage 10, another girl is on stage 7 and there a few of 4/5 but most of her class are on red.

simpson · 02/04/2013 21:16

Fingers x for the new glasses, how long do you have to wait?

Periwinkle007 · 02/04/2013 21:24

I think a lot of schools stop at 10/11ish. Certainly ours does. Except perhaps for guided reading but otherwise I think they just move on to reading whatever from the library.

We picked the glasses up over the weekend and she has been wearing them to read the last 3 days. She seems a bit better to me, fewer silly mistakes and excellent sudden notice of punctuation even though the book she is now reading is much smaller font. We will have to wait and see what happens in the classroom, the white board and the lighting was really affecting her so hopefully the glasses will help.

I don't know how many are still on red. I don't think it is many as certainly quite a few of the English as a second language children are picking it up very quickly. I know of a few on 6, a few on 7 and her on 8 out of 31 which is really good. They did very concentrated work on phonics for the first term and a half before really doing other things so obviously that means many of the children now have all the tools they need to read well.

personally as a plainly very pushy parent who thinks her child is wonderful I think she should be on level 9 but hopefully she will demonstrate her ability to school soon and then move up (and get off magic key!)

simpson · 02/04/2013 21:40

Biff etc finish at stage 9 I think...

Is your DD in reception or yr1?

I read with the current yr1s and the majority of them seem to be on blue.

Fingers x on the glasses. She has done incredibly well to get to where she is if she finds some things tough in the classroom.

Periwinkle007 · 02/04/2013 21:48

Reception but she is the oldest in the class.

thanks. yes I really hope the glasses help her, even if it just makes her a bit more comfortable with the lighting and the board. I think it will take some confidence going in and wearing coloured lenses but some of the others in the class have normal glasses and I think her friends will be kind about it. Her teacher and TAs are really lovely so I think they will be very supportive

simpson · 02/04/2013 21:55

DD is reception and Jan born so an older child ish...

When DS was in reception he really struggled with everything which I put down to being 31st Aug birthday but it turned out he had glue ear so couldn't hear properly. He had grommets put in and he was off!!!

Periwinkle007 · 02/04/2013 21:58

there are so many things that can affect them and yet they don't realise there is something wrong because they are so young and don't know any different. Thats great they have sorted it out though

learnandsay · 02/04/2013 22:01

Somebody said on the thread which has now been deleted that adults believe children can't do things. I was told by lots of family and friends (who hadn't seen my daughter read) that she couldn't read because she was only three. I guess they'd be more determined to tell me what her younger sister can and cannot do (without seeing that too.)

simpson · 02/04/2013 22:09

LandS - the HT told me at a phonics session run for parents of nursery/reception children (when she was in nursery) that she couldn't be reading correctly and she was just remembering the words because she was 3.

Another mum who has a DS in DD's class said that when he was in nursery he wanted to learn to read and had got hang of basic blending cat and dog etc but the school said to stop as he was too young ( which is why for reception she moved him to the school my DC go to).

learnandsay · 02/04/2013 22:21

I don't see why they can't sing the abc song and identify their letters as soon as they're able. If they can say milk, cheese, cat, dog, bed and no (the favourite word at the moment) I don't see why they can't say abc.

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learnandsay · 02/04/2013 22:25

I suspect the little blighters (all of them) are about a million times more intelligent and capable than adults are willing to give them credit for.

simpson · 02/04/2013 22:37

But I think the problem is when they are not encouraged or supported at home (whole different topic!!)

learnandsay · 02/04/2013 22:57

Yes, it's sort of a different topic because at home you can prep them. But they're still clever in play school. And if in play school they're told you can to potato paintings, crayon drawings and dancing, but you can't do abc because you're not old enough then they won't do abc.

I think the whole concept of old enough should be scrapped and replaced with if you can then you can, and if you can't then you can't.

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