December 2012 - Smiles all round!

[SpottyTeacakes]

And the one where Spotty's gang gets some sleep

[SpottyTeacakes]

Zzzzz don't worry IsThat we're similar! Well so far tonight it's been 3 hours and 2 hours 50. He's still going straight down into his cot though so that's good!

I'm so thirsty in halfway through my second pint of wine tonight

[SeymoreInOz]

mama sorry to hear that DD is going through a screamy phase. Hopefully it's just a short passing phase.

DS has been a screamer from the start, yesterday was a particularly bad day though. You would not believe the number of strangers that come up to me and say "ooh, someone's not happy" or "someone's hungry" as if I can't hear him! There's a brilliant Australian book called Baby Love which has a good chapter on "The crying baby".

seconds sounds like you're well prepared for the trip. I use the sling a lot here, I think the baby bjorn will be fine, just make sure you're both not overdressed. It does make you both sweat a bit, but not overheat. I've seen some women using an umbrella to keep their baby in shade while they're using the carrier, but I tend to just put a sun hat on DS and sun cream on any bits poking out!

spotty if you've had CP then hopefully DS will be covered at the mo. DD came down it when DS was 5 weeks old and he didn't catch it. She had a record breaking number of lesions, bless her, so she was about as infectious as you can get!

Hopefully all the poorly LOs are feeling better soon.

[IsThatTrue]

Up again. And my hearings gone off again! Urgh!

Can't wait to sign contracts for another year then I'll get the ll to call the boiler guys. Bloody thing! So cold (ok it's only around 17 in here now but by morning it's going to feel pretty arctic!

[utopian99]

Poor you isthat! Fx for getting heating sorted soon..

O just woke me up by waking up himself sounding like he was choking to death. So ao scary. Have no idea why and just feeding and cuddling him now. He seems fine and DH and I too scared to go back to sleep.

[Chloe55]

Dd has taken to waking every 2.5-3hrs which is fine and fairly normal for her (although we no longer get the long first sleep ) but when she has finished feeding now she cries for a good 15-20mins and I now have to spend that time putting her dummy in. This is making me apprehensive for the eventual move to her own room. I can just about cope with laying next to her settling her, I will not cope with going back and forth to her room to settle her please tell me its a phase and she will go back to murmur/feed/sleep. Dh and I had an argument at 5am as I was complaining how tired I was, to dd, just gently, then he said this isn't working, her sleeping in our room, you're too tired coz you get up too much to her I asked what amazing solution he had and he suggested moving her into her own room and giving a bottle if formula in the night. I reminded him this is all good and well, yet it would essentially be me giving her that bottle, which I would have to go warm up, all whilst dd becomes more awake waiting for it and me doing more work so becoming more awake. He assures me he will do it but he works fulltime so that won't work. He suggested I sleep more in the day but dd sleeps for 20min bouts, it takes that long for me to drop off! How long do your los sleep in the day?

Oh its my birthday today too

[ISpyPlumPie]

Many happy returns Chloe. Sounds like a tough night. FWIW, I'm with you on not wanting to move them to their own room just yet but I know both DH and I have suggested some random things in the heat of the moment at various times, then when we've discussed it again later reconsidered. Might be worth talking again this evening before starting to settle DD dor the night to see how you both feel.

N still doesn't sleep independently for long stretches during the day. He'll do about 30 mins max in his basket - and that's rare. He will sleep for longer in the car/pram/sling but obv I can't sleep when we're doing any of those things so catching up in the day doesn't happen even when DS1 is at nursery.

Pmkgt - how's your DS?

Isthat - hope you get your heating sorted soon. It's been freezing here this morning.

[SpottyTeacakes]

Happy birthday Chloe ds sometimes only has three twenty minute sleeps and other times can sleep for two hours. I won't be moving him to his own room until he sleeps through I would never forgive myself if something happened.

Ds has his thumb in all by himself

IsThat poor you hope it gets fixed.

We're in Southampton. Just did ikea, having lunch at TGI Fridays then hospital appointment.

[FriendofDorothy]

I am trying to get my son to take a bottle of expressed milk. On two occasions he has taken it fine and on the other occasions he has just refused and screamed his head off. Does anyone have any advice?

[Stacks]

Happy birthday Chloe. T used to sleep a couple of hours at a time in the day, last week or so we're lucky if we get an hour.

FOD, no first hand advice, but health visitor told us that if we want to get him used to a bottle do it when they're not too hungry. Then they won't get frantic and will be more willing to work out how to use it.

Off to get T his jabs, not looking forward to it! DH is coming with me, but wants me to be the 'bad guy' holding him. :(

[pmgkt]

Ispy he is having a pj day. He is off his food and sleeping loads, calpol is fine for a bit but he get hot again after a few hours, he hates his penicillin but is being good and taking it, we have convinced him that it will make him feel better. Give him a few days and he'll be fine I'm sure.

Ed had his first jabs this afternoon, he didn't mind too much stopped crying before I got his sleepsuit on.

[WLmum]

Chloe I'm sure it will be just a phase, most things are with los. Don't move her into her own room if your not ready - it will only stress you out which is def not good for sleep! I tried moving dd1&2 out for a bit fearing we were all waking each other up, but they still woke just as much and yes I felt worse traipsing down the hall so they came back in. Formula won't necessarily make her sleep longer, and won't help her settle quicker/not need dummy replacing. Is she well winded? Could it be wind making her cry?

T will not settle at home in the day unless in the sling when I get bouts of about an hour, will sleep for hours in the car or moving pram - so like you, no chance for sleep here. Fx she's not too bad at night though so I'm generally ok.

Happy birthday! Owe yourself a treat for when things have settled down.

spotty - jealous of that thumb action!

[SpottyTeacakes]

Ds will not go to sleep tonight I wonder if it's because we've been out all day? I'm so ridiculously tired tonight and he just won't settle!

[utopian99]

Happy birthday chloe, hope it's been a nice day..

We've not graduated to thumb action yet but lots of fist sucking. Had the estate agents round for valuations today, quite a wide spread so looks like we might have to wait and see if we get an offer that makes sense.

[IsThatTrue]

Happy birthday chloe

DS fights his sleep a lot during the day. But I've also found that he goes to sleep a lot better in his bed, rather than cuddling to sleep and them putting him down. He also appears to be giving himself a bedtime routine. He has been wanting to go to bed around 8. Last night I woke him around 10. Tonight I'll peob do the same to take him up to bed. He'll feed and go back to sleep. Then tomorrow I shall put him down upstairs instead so I don't have to move him. It's making me kinda :( that he is less dependant on me!

Today he was stroppy this morning so I gave up on work and went out with DH and the big dcs to the park, where he slept in the sling. Fed while we ate our picnic. Slept in the sling while I played in goal with the kids. Then woke at home a lot happier and let me get on with work.

We got our hearing back on this morning. It does it all the time. Bloody pita. It's actually worse in the summer. In winter you notice it getting cold and go and reset it all. But in summer you only notice when you try and use the hot water!

[MaMaPo]

Anyone else's babies seem to choke when trying to suck on fingers? When C is overtired she seems to jam her fingers in so far she gags on them. Horrible to see, and I end up giving her the dummy instead.

Have just been reading up on whether, at 11 weeks, C could be in the middle of a growth spurt. Tells you a lot about the kind of day I've had! Feeding every 2 hours, crying when put down, disastrous attempts to nap during the day (spent 4 hours on my feet with her in pram and she woke up the second we got in). Am bloody exhausted.

[WLmum]

Chloe meant to say also that the decent daytime naps will come. As they get older and more actively awake they also nap better - promise!

[monsterchild]

MaMaPo, sometimes these tiring days (Yunior is going on 8 weeks) are due to big development in skills. I have noticed that Yunior will have a day like you're describing and a day or two later I will notice he is much better at something.

For instance a few days ago we had a rough day and night. that morning he gave me the most adorable, unsolicited smile and giggle!

It does seem like when you've just about had enough, they get the cute factor to make you keep on going, doesn't it?

[Secondsop]

mamapo I was wondering about a growth spurt at 11 weeks too. Z has been wanting a big bottle feed every 3 hours PLUS breastfeeds.

He's had a big day as my mum moved house to be near us and we helped with picking up the keys etc. whilst waiting in the car outside the estate agents, we were hit by an APOOCALYPSE. a poo that went all up his back, onto his vest AND onto his dungarees AND tshirt, and when my husband took him onto the front seat to change him (thankfully with the changing mat) he HADN'T FINISHED POOING and more came out forming a pyramid exactly like a soft serve ice cream. Onto the changing mat as he'd removed and bagged the nappy by then thinking the worst was over. But then Z weed onto his own face, husbands hands and iphone. So we had to sacrifice an interim nappy in order to get us through the change (whilst i held Z's legs up with my hands over the front seat from the back seat) because there was no way we were going to get him clean in one go what with the poo everywhere and the risk of another wee, and the interim nappy ended up with a big dollop of poo on its outside as expected. but whilst my husband picked Z up to try to get the rest of the pooey clothes off him he accidentally bumped Z's head against the steering wheel and in the action of pulling him away to make sure he was ok, achieved an almost complete transference of poo, in a splodge the size of a large adult hand, from the outside of the nappy onto his jeans leg. By now we were both laughing hysterically. But the funniest thing (for me) was that my husband didnt notice the pooey jeans immediately so when he did, I sort of got to experience it again through his reaction.

Fortuitously, in the morning we'd been out for brunch and on the way home I'd popped into the co-op to get drinks for the removal men and thought I'd get a couple of packs of wipes as they were 2-for-1. Good thing too, as the Apoocalypse used up all the wipes from the changing bag.

Earlier in the morning Z had spat up whilst on my husband's lap and it went onto an unfortunate area of his jeans. To think we thought that was the worst thing that was going to happen to those jeans today.

[halesball]

Seconds i've just giggle through your apoocolipse account. Haha.

Chloe happy birthday, hope you had a lovely day.

H's rash seems a little better today but she has just fallen asleep after being up since 9am she had one 10 minute nap. She wanted to feed all day which was hard work as i also had to take my dad into hospital for a angiogram then pick him up later. But we managed to get through the whole day smiling

[IsThatTrue]

seconds what a great day! I'm sure of will br the source of great amusement in years to come!

Well DS slept 8-10.30 and then 11-3.30. Just feeding And he'll go back down.

I hope the relative quietness on here reflects a few sleeping babies!

[coffeeandcream]

seconds

Hope all the ill babies are on the mend. My LOs horrid pussy navel had miraculously cleared up by itself so now the doctor must think I'm a neurotic mother with her pfb!!

Just finishing his feed after first wake of the night, fx he goes back down

[utopian99]

We've had a terrible evening/early night after a perfectly normal day. Very fussy, crying for no reason (normally not much of a crier without obvious hunger/nappy issue) and to sleep at last at 12, then awake every two hours.
Could this be a development stage starting mid evening? (He's coming up to 8 weeks.)

Not helped by my having hurt my shoulder and hand lifting him, so in a lot of discomfort. Don't want to miss pramactive tomorrow/in 6 hours as feeling fat and sh*t after too much chocolate to get me through aforementioned crappy evening, but really tired and have client meeting in the afternoon.

Also crabby with pils for booking summer holiday week in Wales (which they're generously inviting us on for free) without checking dates or location first, as if we're just on hand to deliver their grandchild. Which i know isn't actually the case, they're really kind and just a bit vague and probably didn't think to; just goes to show what a miserable cow I'm being tonight!

On the other hand dh has been wonderful helping settle O and seconds your apocalypse made me laugh out loud while feeding!

[MaMaPo]

Seconds, we had a frankly unimpressive poo event yesterday compared to you. Straight after getting off FaceTime with C's (very proper) grandmother and great-grandmother, I fed her. I heard her poo, said to my husband ''Thats a bit stinky!' And before you know it liquid poo has made it out of nappy, through 2 layers of her clothes and all over the freshly washed duvet cover. It was definitely bath time!

Decent sleeps here - down at 8, dream feed at 11.30, up again at 3.45 and 6.15. First time we haven't had a 2am waking in ages. Unfortunately I couldn't get back to sleep after 4 :(

Ah utopian, you'll feel better again soon!

[FriendofDorothy]

Wow. The Little Mister did a 7 hour stretch last night. What a result!

[Secondsop]

utopian we went through a phase of Z being just inconsolable in the evenings until he wore himself out and fell asleep. It only lasted a few days though - hopefully it'll pass soon for you. I wonder if it's a phase where they want to stay up because they are learning more, but are too little to do so without getting tired, and they don't know how to deal with it.