Trump (Part 6)

[claig]

More on Trump

It is a Trump world and as the Modi saying goes

“Aab Ki Baar Trump Sarkar”

and as the Stump for Trump Sisters say

"Get on the Trump Train or get the hell out of the way"

Rock'n'roll

[Kaija]

What would you personally like to do or say, Claig, that you feel political correctness is preventing you from doing or saying?

[Roussette]

I've an idea who can play... Bolshoi Ballet seeing as the Donald is Putin's biatch!

Apparently there's a Trump daughter, Tiffany, who can strum on a guitar, that's a thought.

Kanye of course... but he's ill. And given that he once said he wanted to be POTUS, a bit of a threat to Donald's ego.

We could offer the Krankies if the sturgeon would allow it...

[claig]

'So who cares if we're all fucked, as long as political correctness is finished and people can go back to using racial and homophobic slurs as much as they like?'

You are locked into Gordon Brown thinking. It's all over, the spin has ended. Trump says "I refuse to be politically correct" by which he means he refuses to be stupid and to hide the truth, not to insult black people, many of whom support him, like the Strump for Trump Sisters.

The lies of the Soros and Hillarys are that political correctness is about insults, when it is really a Big Brther control mechanism to stifle free speech.

[SouthallGirl]

One of the Electors from the college is being hounded and threatened. There's no stopping the SJWs and definitely no graciousness being shown.

[claig]

'I never mentioned Chris in that post Claig. Why did you think I was talking about Chris?'

Because you have done little else but hound Chris and insult her with snide remarks over the past few threads and Chris calls you her "stalker".

Chris knows lots about politics, about the banks, about Europe etc and I would like to hear more of her thoughts as we witness the biggest earthquake and revolution any of us have ever lived through so that we can predict what the future will hold, just as we predicted Brexit and Trump.

[Kaija]

" Trump says "I refuse to be politically correct" by which he means he refuses to be stupid and to hide the truth, not to insult black people, "

And yet he has done the latter; the former, not so much.

[BertrandRussell]

Kim got "a few nasty notes-mostly from out of state" (direct quote from the video linked to) and responded to them robustly. . Everything that we could see on his screen looked like legitimate lobbying .

He didn't look particularly hounded or threatened to me.

[BertrandRussell]

"Southallgirl- I am still waiting for you to tell me what it is that I want to say that I can't because of political correctness.

[claig]

Bertrand Brussels, can you give it a rest asking the same stupid question over multiple threads?

You contribute nothing to any of the threads apart from goady repetitive questioning. It is clear you are out of your depth in a political discussion and don't understand what is being discussed, but can you spend you time reading the instructive posts and learning rather than asking the same inane, goady question to one poster?

Change the record

[OhYouBadBadKitten]

actually though, it is interesting that southallgirl thinks that other people are holding back because of worries about political correctness. So much of these threads have repeatedly returned to the theme of political correctness - indeed Claig, it is one of your points you frequently highlight. Is it inconceivable that perhaps some of us do feel free to say exactly what we think, because our views do not offend people?

[BertrandRussell]

Claig. Southallgirl made a statement about me. I am entitled to ask her what she meant.

I will contine to ask until you she answers.

at "out of your depth in political discussion"!!

[claig]

OhYou, political corrrectness is at the absolute core of why the Oxbridge idiots lost to the people in Brexit and why the European people will sweep out their useless politically correect nincompoops and Trump spells it out and says

"I refuse to be politically correct"

by which he means "I refuse to say that the emperor is wearing clothes"

The truth and common sense has returned all over Europe and America and Trump is the number one person in the world who has achieved that because he has the courage to be politically incorrect i.e. the courage to tell the truth

"we are led by very, very stupid people"
"not gonna happen any more"

Trump 2016

[BertrandRussell]

I have never yet come across anyone who can tell me what they could like to do or say that they are prevented from doing or saying by political correctness. When Southallgirl told me that there were things that I wanted to do or say.... I was naturally intrigued!

[claig]

'I have never yet come across anyone who can tell me what they could like to do or say that they are prevented from doing or saying by political correctness'

Germaine Greer and Julie Bindel have been n oplatformed and banned from speaking on some university campuses because what they said about transgender does not fir with political correctness. they have not been allowed to speak the truth as they see it.

That is only one tiny example of how political correctness operates to stifle free speech. Trump is politically incorrect about absolutely everything because he has no fear of Big Brother, Soros and the puppet politicians.

[Lweji]

Clearly, in Brexit the people lost to Oxbridge and other idiots who didn't even know how to Brexit.
No plan. No idea how.
And possibly will end up in a similar situation (open borders and free trade and no control whatsoever).
I think that pretty much covers the definition of idiots.

[Lweji]

I wouldn't normally call them idiots, but not being politically correct seems to be a desirable thing these days.

[claig]

'not being politically correct seems to be a desirable thing these days'

Absolutely. Truth and common sense have returned. It had to happen eventually, there was only so much groupthink and puppetry the people could take and finally Donald J Trump, 45th President of the United States, has ended it and surprised, shocked and terrified every groupthink puppet politician on the planet and all their bosses who thought they were too powerful to prevent a challenge to political correctness and who though they had the world and the truth and all the billions of decent people wrapped up in their packs of WMD and Iraq and Blairite lies.

[Lweji]

Amazing how you completely miss the point.

[BertrandRussell]

"It is clear you are out of your depth in a political discussion and don't understand what is being discussed"

I think this is my favourite ever Claigism. I feel truly honored.

[claig]

Trump told teh politician puppets across the world that he was on the people's side and their games were all over. Finally we all have someone with common sense. We won in Brexit, the world won with Trump and now Europe will win thanks to Trump.

The Gordon Brown days are over. The American people have spoken and the people of the world have spoken. It's a miracle. We won, we beat the elites.

"They have put political correctness above common sense, above you safety and above all else. I refuse to be politically correct"

"I am your voice"

[claig]

"I am your voice"

We the people have Trump on our side, against all the idiots, the nincompoops and the PPEs.

Trump is the biggest, baddest, brashest billionaire son of a gun ever born and he is going to bully the elites like they have never been bullied before. They tried to take our free speech with their political correctness. Think again, it's all over.

So in this season of good cheer, remember to toast Donald Trump and the good old USA and all of us, the people who beat the elites in the year of 2016

[DeepanKrispanEven]

I don't claim he will end corruption. I don't care if he does or not. I like Trump and am happy with what he does

Good grief. That says it all about you, claig - in exactly the same way as you supported the far right in Austria despite admitting you didn't know what their policies were. So if or when Trump enacts racist and misogynistic policies, when he outlaws abortion, when he shamelessly puts in place laws which benefit him and his mates whilst ignoring the poor and vulnerable, when he licks Putin's arse, when he destabilises the world economy - that's fine with you because you are still clinging on to the hope that one day he will stick it to those whom you perceive to be the elite.

But this is Trump, he already is a billionaire

Are you sure? I must confess I worry about someone who refuses to be open about his tax returns, who has a history of bankruptcy, who keeps getting into legal disputes, and owes millions to a German bank.

[DeepanKrispanEven]

Southallgirl knows more than you

So why can't she answer one simple question based on what she posted about Bertrand?

Bertrand Brussels, can you give it a rest asking the same stupid question over multiple threads?

To quote a much-used phrase, you aren't the thread police, claig. Bertrand is not the only person interested in the answer to that question, and indeed interested in the fact that Southall keeps evading it.

You contribute nothing to any of the threads

We can all see that that is untrue.

Because you have done little else but hound Chris and insult her with snide remarks over the past few threads

Demonstrably untrue. You shouldn't lie about other posters.

What is interesting is that claig is demonstrably getting rattled about people who keep posting all those inconvenient facts demonstrating her hero's feet of clay.

Waiting for frantic references to Blair, PC, the elite, Oxbridge in 3-2-1 ...

[claig]

'So if or when Trump enacts racist and misogynistic policies ...'

No. I said I don't care if he doesn't end corruption, if some of his appointees make a few extra pennies, that is small fry in the big scheme of things of how Trump intends to change the world for teh benefit of the people

'That says it all about you, claig '

It says it all about you, that your only purpose on this thread is to try and show how clever you are (which is admittedly an uphill task) by twisting my words to score points

'I must confess I worry about someone who refuses to be open about his tax returns'

You are not the only one who is worried about Trump. The elites are having sleepless nights, they are on extra strong medication, their hands are trembling, they are going to confession, they are praying to the Lord, it was an "annus horribilus" for the elites, first the British people walloped them with Brexit in the UK, then Trump knocked them out in the USA.

[RebeccaMumsnet]

Hi all,

We've had many many reports about these threads and we wanted to post now to say that we have clocked them.

From what we can see, it does seem to be 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. Folks will always have hugely differing views on politics and we totally respect that, we ask all of you to do the same, no matter how different the opinions may be.

We really don't want to reach a point where we are remove half of a thread and banning people because of personal attacks due to differing opinions and nasty tone - please stick within the guidelines and you are welcome to debate the issues.

Many thanks and Merry Christmas/ Peace and love to all
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