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Child stealing sweets and snacks

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Elsalvador · 19/12/2022 05:38

I really don't know what to do. I'm almost at my wit's end.

DS (9) keeps stealing sweets and savoury snacks. He then hides the evidence so we don't always discover if and when he's done it so he's self-rewarding (i.e. he gets away with it for some time until we've found the wrappers or realised it's gone missing). This has been going on and off for the best part of the last two years but more so this year.

What makes us despair is the sneakiness. He's incredibly creative in finding ways to get the stuff from cupboards. Doesn't matter how high or well hidden it is, he'll find it. I cannot watch him 24/7 as I work from home so sometimes I may be in a meeting or I'll need to cook dinner, feed the cat and dog or go to the loo. At this age, I shouldn't have to watch him 24/7.

He then hides it in his bedroom. Then he either eats it at night (so I worry about his teeth also) or he feigns excuses to go to his room and eats it then. Or he'll say he's going to the loo for a number two. The evidence is then disposed of in creative ways. I have found them under his bed, hidden under rarely worn clothes in his drawer, under the sofa, in the shoe cupboard, thrown outside the window into the back garden, kept in pockets then discreetly into the bin 😢. If we ask him if he's done it once we've found stuff missing, he will always admit it if that makes a difference.

To be really clear. We do not ban sweets and snacks in the house as we don't want them to become illicit. The kids do get them but we try to be balanced about it and they know the importance of eating healthily. This is not about having too much (we don't think it's a sugar addiction) or not having enough. The issue we feel is that DS has no impulse control. We have seen this sneakiness with other stuff that he wants, including the laptop (required for school) or he fixates on an idea and has to do it. It's just that sweets and snacks are the main focus now as the laptop now has the WiFi password disabled permanently.

It's having a detrimental impact on family life. DH and I are extremely frustrated with the sneakiness. His sibling also gets upset as he steals her stuff. When she's little sweets from end of term at school or from a party bag etc, she'll put it away in her tin to eat later but he has always found a way to find it and eat it only for it to be discovered missing days later. Recently, he opened a couple of doors from her advent calendar and ate the chocolate even though he has his own. He did this last year too. He also went through my bedside table and found a hidden bag of jelly beans which was part of his siblibg's birthday present and ate that. We realised as he dropped a jelly bean on the floor which we found. The empty packet still hasn't been found.

Things we have tried:

  • he understands it's a poor choice and the consequences and impact on others. We talk about it a lot. He feels genuine remorse afterwards and often cries as he feels sad but I'm not sure if this is at being caught, remorse at his own behaviour or sad because I'm cross with him. He gets away with it enough that I think it's worth the risk in his head. I cannot weigh and stock check every food item in the cupboard nor do I want to.


  • we don't keep lots of sweets in the house but like to think we're like most family households in this regard. We have snacks in the cupboard as the kids need to take their own snack to school for after school club. So we're talking things like oat biscuits, Ryvita bars, yoghurt bars or popcorn. He'll take these as well as savoury snacks (mini cheddars e.g.) as well as sweet stuff (mini celebrations, haribos etc) that we get from trick or treating, parties, school fairs etc.


  • we have stopped buying as much but the kids still snacks for school and DH needs it for his packed lunch for work. Also, I'd rather DS not steal than completely deprive the entire household of any snacks in the house and I feel this wouldn't work anyway as it would make them illicit.


  • we make it clear that he does get snacks/sweets when it's appropriate and as part of a healthy balanced meal. I should say that he's not hungry. He eats well otherwise and is at a perfect weight for his height. We also have a fruit bowl and a fridge full of fruit and Greek yoghurt which he's welcome to anytime if he wants a little snack) and he often likes a glass of milk as a snack. We know it isn't hunger motivated.


To avoid drip feeding, it is possible DS has ADHD. We are in the process of having him assessed but we are at the start of our journey. We have been he presents "flavours of ADHD and possible ODD" but he's possibly on the edge of the spectrum or very high functioning. He is bright (above average) but it isn't channelled in the right way (school frequently reports that he's bright but not engaged at all and doesn't listen, focus or try his best in lessons).

DH is at the point where he's exasperated but doesn't know what to say or do anymore as nothing makes a difference to DS. The behaviour continues. I worry a lot that DS will grow up and this will escalate to drinks, drugs and other anti social behaviour as he doesn't have self control. It's less the sweets but more the sneakiness and lack of impulse control we find frustrating and worrying. His sibling also gets quite stressed and upset because she's exactly the opposite (naturally compliant and all about doing the right thing) and feels he "gets away with it" all the time.

Please be gentle. We are at our wits end. Once Xmas is over we plan to stop buying any nice snacks at all in the house. Any sweets can be eaten there and then e.g. those they get from party bags, from school at the summer fair end of term etc. This isn't forever but I feel we need to set him up for success and see what happens when there's nothing at all to take. If we need snacks, I'll buy them on the go in single packets on the way to school and do it that way. To be clear, he would never steal from a shop and has never done this nor do I think he would ever do this. It's just in our house.

Does anyone have any advice? It makes me so upset this behaviour. We try our best as parents. We have routines, boundaries and communicate a lot with the kids. We are engaged etc so this isn't DS not being supervised. We have another child who is the exact opposite and we worry also as she's getting fed up with her brother's sneakiness and it's impacting their relationship (they don't get on as well as they used to in part because of this). We also get so cross and exasperated with him and I worry it's harming out relationship with DS. Nothing we have ever said or done seems to make a difference. As I said, once DS fixates on an idea he has to do it.

Or if anyone has ideas as to how we can reframe this in our minds so we don't get as frustrated with DS, that would also be helpful. We feel like the worst and most ineffective parents when he does this. DH doesn't but I feel a lot of guilt and anxiety that it must be because I'm doing a rubbish job though the logical part of me knows this can't be true. I just don't know how to approach this in a way that DS responds to.
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greenacrylicpaint · 19/12/2022 05:49

is he hungry?
does he eat well at mealtimes?
that age boys dtart to need substantially more than previously.

is he bored?
does he go out to play with friends?
is kept busy with a mix of chores, reading, tv, games?

tbh it seems like you are modelling secretive behaviour by hiding snack item.
get them out in the open.

and possibly a dentist/hyfienist appointment for him if you are worried about his teeth.

for my teens we have a drawer of snacks and sweets that we fill weekly. they have to arrange themselves for it to last the week.

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BCBird · 19/12/2022 05:49

Ti started reading your post, and thought to myself, does your son have any unidentified additional needs? I then saw that you suspect ADHD.my nephew is autistic. I know he used to steal food when he was younger. While his mom used to tell him off but allow him to eat the food,my brother always took it from.him,even if there was only one bite left. He did stop.doing it eventually.

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Pictograph · 19/12/2022 05:53

You don't mention any consequences except talking to him about poor choices. Did he get punished for stealing his sibling's advent calendar chocolates?

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ObjectionSustained · 19/12/2022 06:13

There needs to be firm punishments in place. Eating his sisters sweets/advent calendar chocolates.. is not on, and -as you say- entirely unfair on DD. What did you do when you found he did that?

It's also really unfair for you to ban all snacks just because he lacks impulse control.
Maybe give each child a snack tub. Fill it with their weekly allowance of treats and when it's gone, it's gone until the following week. Allow DD to keep hers hidden in her room or something so that she knows that her snacks haven't got to be eaten immediately to prevent greedy brother from smashing the lot.

I know you say you worry about damaging your relationship with him, and that when you confront him he starts crying, but that's only when you confront him. He's upset at being caught. No child likes being caught out.

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itsthefinalcountdown1 · 19/12/2022 06:41

He feels genuine remorse afterwards and often cries as he feels sad but I'm not sure if this is at being caught, remorse at his own behaviour or sad because I'm cross with him. He gets away with it enough that I think it's worth the risk in his head.
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He doesn't feel remorse. He keeps doing it. You need to remove all snacks from around the house, provide health snacks in a bowl and lock away the treats. Absolutely baffled as to why you wouldn't do this already.
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If he's snacking in the night, his teeth aren't staying clean from being brushed at bedtime, which you know is unacceptable and he should know that too. Also eating his sister's treats is just plain naughty. Your DD is being punished because you can't be bothered to parent your other child.

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PortiasBiscuit · 19/12/2022 06:43

Lock up all the treats.

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Longwhiskers · 19/12/2022 06:44

Is it only sweet things he steals or savoury too? I think as a previous poster says they could each have a treats tub or box (perhaps his sisters could be lockable) with treats for the week. Does he get pocket money? Could he buy a few sweets or chocolates and they’re his and that’s if, there is nothing else in the house?

have You done any reading about ASD/ADHD and impulse control? Presumably there is a lot of research done on the subject and you may find some of the specialists Facebook groups have better advice?

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TofuonToast · 19/12/2022 06:44

A child with adhd will have very limited impulse control regarding these choices. However the impulse to steal is being driven by something and you need to dig really deep to find out what. Be gentle when you ask. Curious rather than accusatory.

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KatherineJaneway · 19/12/2022 06:45

What punishments does he receive?

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miamiibiza · 19/12/2022 06:45

My son has ADHD and he does exactly the same as your son. He hides the wrappers, even though food is not rationed. It's like he cannot control this.
I spoke to the paediatrician and she said it's extremely common in children with ADHD.
It used to make me so cross, I thought it was rude and disrespectful, but now I try to have more understanding with it.

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lorisparkle · 19/12/2022 06:49

As soon as I started reading your post I was going to mention ADHD. DS2 is exactly the same. He has, to a degree, grown out of it but still suffers from 'eyes bigger than his stomach'.

We use 'natural consequences'. So he has to use his pocket money to pay for things. His mental health is very fragile though so we avoid additional punishments.

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Elsalvador · 19/12/2022 06:49

We hide some sweets because when we kept it out he would just eat them and then everyone else's. DD is allowed to keep hers in her room so hers aren't stolen but that hasn't stopped him.

Savoury snacks aren't hidden. We don't have the space but also I don't want to hide things. We do put some stuff higher up so it's harder for him to swipe.

Keeping everything out a help yourself basis works for DD but not for DS.

Yes, there are consequences. Sorry I didn't make this clear. Consequences include: missing out on movie night, entire trick or treating stash binned, being sent to bed early etc. What bothers us is that we've yet to come up with a punishment that bothers him. His attitude is very much "I've done for crime, I'll do my time and accept it".

He loves to read and reads a lot. We enjoy playing a lot of board games, we have a dog that he plays with and we walk him, we watch movies on the weekend and enjoy lots of outdoor walks too. He isn't bored and I also don't believe in entertaining my kids every second of the day as I believe they need to learn to entertain themselves or relax. He is able to do this - reading is his thing - and he also does a lot of sports outside of school. I don't think it's boredom but rather lacking in impulse control. We've seen it in other things where he fixates on an idea and it's this behaviour that made us think there was more to his behaviour. We've already spoken to the SENCo at school who agrees he may be on the spectrum with possible ADHD. I have no experience with ADHD so I don't know if this is DS being DS or connected with him being neurodivergent and me not parenting him in a way that he would respond to better.

@ObjectionSustained he gave his sister several of the chocolates from his advent to make up for the one he took. The other time, he lost the advent completely. So here's where we struggle. When he's in the moment, he doesn't think about consequences. So for that one chocolate, he's happy to give her several of his as recompense or to lose the entire calendar. It doesn't make sense to us. He always loses more than he gains yet he'll always risk it. One Halloween, he had a huge stash from trick or treating. We said he was allowed to take some every day but he couldn't eat it all in one go. If he chose to do that, then he'd lose the entire stash. Logically, you'd think he'd self limit and be sensible. Instead, he couldn't help it. He ate so much in one go and hid the wrappers, he ended up losing the rest of it. But he accepted that. The same applies to screen time. We have limits that are agreed upon as a family. E.g. set time on the Switch on the weekend when all homework is done. If he's caught with the Switch during the week, he loses his weekend allowance. For the sake of 5 mins illicit playing during the week, he will risk losing his entire weekend Switch time. From a logical perspective, it makes no sense. To clarify, the idea is not to ban snacks. Just not keep them in the house for a while so he isn't tempted. Instead, we'll buy them on the go. It's more about trialling to see if by removing the temptation, he'll grow out of it. Not ideal I agree but we are frustrated.

@greenacrylicpaint he eats well at mealtimes! We also offer and he knows he can help himself to healthy snacks too. He loves apple with cinnamon, yoghurt or crackers and cheese. We don't deny this and we will do a snack between meals too as we know the kids are growing so we don't just have breakfast, lunch and dinner if that makes sense. We are convinced it's not hunger. Also, we do take him to see the dentist and hygienist. Teeth okay so far but I still don't like the idea of sweets at night after he's brushed his teeth.

@BCBird yes we think possibly he has ADHD. Hence why I think most of the usual suggestions which work so well on my neurotypical DD don't seem to work on DS. This is why I'm wondering if others have had similar issues and perhaps there's a different way of approaching this. We default to logic and then don't get why consequences (or punishment if you want to call it that) don't work.

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RedHelenB · 19/12/2022 06:52

I think he'll outgrow it. My ds used to be similar but now he respects that things need to be shared and asks before taking things. Took him until he was a teenager though.

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Doingmybest12 · 19/12/2022 07:16

Is it there is no switch except for at the weekend? You say this is a family agreed rule implying the children also agree this is the right thing. I highly doubt this and I'm not surprised he is sneaking time in the week hoping to get away with it. Children who struggle to regulate won't think about a consequence so long away. You threw away all his Halloween stash after saying he was in charge of it himself. I think your rules seem a bit muddled. How could he eat it all in one go and also lose it if he does this .I also don't like children being described as sneaky or stealing about food from the home. It sounds very hard and wearing but it sounds like you need to take the heat out of the situation. Some children are just harder to live with like some adults.

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Alexandernevermind · 19/12/2022 07:25

I would take him to the doctor, just in case there is a blood sugar reason reason for the sugar craving. It could also be the signs of the start of a binge eating disorder. I would be careful about punishing as you don't want guilt attached to food, although there does need to be consequences for taking his sister's treats. Tread carefully on this one.

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Elsalvador · 19/12/2022 15:38

@Doingmybest12 yes, we agreed Switch was for the weekend. The week day is so busy and the kids get homework from school. By the time this is done, dinner, bath and downtime, we don't want them gaming. Yes, they agreed to this as they get lots of Switch time on the weekend when they have more free time. We also don't have screen time during the week but we appreciate other families may have different rules on screen time. The exception is school holidays then there is screen and going time during the week. Sorry the Halloween thing wasn't clear. Every day he got to take some of his sweets. The sweets were in the cupboard. I wasn't going to hide them but he knew it was 2-3 a day after his HW. He ate his 2-3 then took a huge stash and ate that as well in secret. At 9, I think he's old enough that I don't need to lock the sweets away and hand them out. I've never had to do this with DD and my friends have never had to do this with their kids either. The stash did go because, yes, I was so upset because I've always said to him to ask if he wants more. To ask and not sneak down when we're asleep to get them (which is what he did). I say "sneaky" because I'm not sure what other word best describes this. Perhaps you're right and some kids are just harder to live with. I will say that in all other respects, he is the sweetest, kindest and happiest little boy with a fabulous sense of humour and a constant smile on his face.

@Alexandernevermind this is why we are frustrated and worried. I worry about this, how it might escalate and also, as you say, I don't like punishing or guilt attached to food. As he does it frequently, I also don't like that we have to fall out over this. When we've tried to not make a big deal out of it (tried this as well), DD gets upset as she feels DS is getting away with it with no consequence. We are trying to get a referral by the GP to CAMHS but the wait list is very long. In the meantime, we are watching his sugar levels in case it is this.

@RedHelenB that's reassuring though I hope he outgrows this before he's a teen! I'm glad yours outgrew it. It gives me some hope.

@lorisparkle this is interesting. DS has also used his pocket money to pay for stuff he's taken. He sees it as paying for sweets he'd have wanted to buy anyway! Do you mind me asking how old your DS was when he grew out of it?

Thanks everyone for posting. I do appreciate the feedback and my takeaway from responses is that we should make sure there are consequences for stealing from his sister (we do) but also maybe we need to relax a bit at the same time. I will really try.

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SusiePevensie · 19/12/2022 15:48

So he's bright, struggles to focus at school and is acting out in an annoying but pretty minor way. Tbh it doesn't sound terrible and I don't think you're on the fast track to a drug addiction!

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TheYearOfSmallThings · 19/12/2022 15:48

You need a locked cupboard. When I was growing up several friends' houses had one for alcohol, cigarettes and any treat foods, because their children were like gannets. I actually remember helping one friend search for the chocolate spread. I'm not proud of it, but we didn't grow up to be criminals.

This is why my mum only kept banana chips, Poiret spread, Panda liquorice and rice cakes.

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TheYearOfSmallThings · 19/12/2022 15:50

Oh and several of DS's friends sneak snacks. Their parents are genuinely horrified, so I guess they weren't food snatchers in their youth, but it isn't rare.

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lorisparkle · 19/12/2022 15:51

@Elsalvador ds2 is much better than he was but it has been a gradual improvement so can't pin point an age. He is now 14 and does not really 'steal' food in the same way (although he did help himself to a full container of chocolates the other day). I think as he has become more independent at making himself food he does that instead (for example toasted sandwiches, bacon, microwave rice and chicken, fajitas etc). Our main problem is that he takes a large portion but only eats half.

It was a difficult road to get him diagnosed with poor impulse control causing many many problems. We are treading very carefully in how we are dealing with the food issues as he is actually significantly underweight.

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UnbeatenMum · 19/12/2022 15:58

My DD who has Autism starting doing this around age 8. It was just sweet food in her case (cakes, sweets, chocolate etc). What we did is lock all sweet food away and trust that she would grow out of it as her impulse control improved. She's coming up to 12 now and is a lot better, although we do still use the locked box, but can leave baked goods out and unopened packets. She also struggled with recognising if she was hungry or if it was just a craving but she's getting much better with that too.

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Elsalvador · 19/12/2022 16:14

@SusiePevensie I think it's the impulse control that worries us. It has caused other issues beyond food, including at school, and it's what was picked up by professionals who suggested we consider an ADHD assessment. You're right I wouldn't worry about this if it was just this as my brother definitely stole snacks frequently as a child! It's the lack of impulse control that bothers us. I might also be worrying unnecessarily. We live in the City where a lot of the high schools do have an issue with drugs so that's in the back of my mind.

@lorisparkle thanks for sharing. Perhaps we'll find the same thing as DS gets older and can make his own snacks. In our case, poor impulse control has always caused a number of issues both at home and at school. I wish you all the best for your son.

@UnbeatenMum sounds like we might need to consider a locked box. I'm so glad your DD got better with it. I hope that's the case for us too and that perhaps this is just something DS will get better with as he grows older and is better able to manage his impulse control.

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TalkToTheHand123 · 19/12/2022 16:20

I used to hide in the car boot. Maybe have a keypad safe?

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TalkToTheHand123 · 19/12/2022 16:21

*hide the sweets and chocolate 😂

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IncompleteSenten · 19/12/2022 16:26

Your lack of ban is not working though, is it? You don't want them to be 'illicit' but what do you think seeking them and hiding them is?

If what you are doing is not working then it doesn't make sense to keep doing it, does it?

Perhaps it's time to try something else such as keeping them in a locked box and dishing them out. Or not keeping a stock of them and just buying one now and then.

If he has poor impulse control then you are expecting too much of him right now and setting him up for failure. Removing temptation in the short term will benefit him.

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