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Do you think I should report this?

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ComeOVeneer · 17/05/2006 21:01

Haven't put this in "legal" as I don't think it warrants it. One of the parents of a child at dd's school (not in her class so I don't know them at all) comes to collect the child in their car. I notived that the tax disc expired June 2004 . I was rather surprised they hadn't been caught but thought no more about it until I spoke to my father, who is a magistrate. He said I must report this guy as the car also probably isn't MOT'd or insured. Do you think I should or is it a bit "busy-body". I ask as my dad is becomimg a bit of a Victor Meldrew (?sp) these days.

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expatinscotland · 18/05/2006 15:46

Yes, Jones, I was 'lucky' to only receive moderate injuries when a drunk, uninsured, untaxed motorist struck my car t-bar after he ran a light.

'Lucky' to only wind up w/a bankrupcy. Could have been a lot worse.

Still no excuse.

He went to jail and was banned for driving for life - that was his 5th DUI in 3 years.

Driving is a privilege NOT a right.

JonesTheSteam · 18/05/2006 15:46

Totally agree with you expat. The system is there for a reason.

If you play the system, accept the consequences!

happybebe · 18/05/2006 15:46

well we will agree to disagree then i dont think you are wrong its just not how i would choose to go about it myself.

JonesTheSteam · 18/05/2006 15:45

I 'confronted' my DH's new next-door neighbour after he bumped my car into the middle of the road because I parked in front of his house one night.

He threatened me with a knife.

So I'd rather not confront people, thanks!

expatinscotland · 18/05/2006 15:44

and, as i wrote in my earlier post, should such a situation arise, those nasty little things like laws say you cannot drive the thing until you have sorted out the tax.

it's prettys simple: you either wait till you have the money, stump up to have it taxed, MOTd and insured and then get on the road. or, if you have the money, you do it straightaway and same result: you stump up to have it taxed, MOTd and insured and then get on the road.

not hard at all.

JonesTheSteam · 18/05/2006 15:43

I taught someone who was knocked down by an uninsured driver (actually he was banned from driving so shouldn't have even been on the road). I know it's not quite the same.

This girl has been left severely brain-damaged and partially paralysed. She was a bright, beautiful kind, 13 year-old with her whole life ahead of her. Now she is condemned to a wheel-chair for the rest of her life, and will need constant care.

Her parents have had no compensation from this twat because he was uninsured.

So I'm sorry I would rather not give someone the benefit of the doubt for having a tax disc two years out of date.

And I would also rather not confront someone about it. How do you think someone willing to drive around for two years with no tax, MOT and insurance is going to react FFS?

yackertyyack · 18/05/2006 15:43

I understand where you are comeing from regarding confronting people Happybee but there seems to be so many reprocutions when you do nowadays that its not worth it! A friends brother had a 'word' with someone for pushing in a q at Mcdonalds, upon leaving he was 'set upon and knifed' -

happybebe · 18/05/2006 15:41

what are you talking about jones? the previous owners may very well have had the car for a year or two years without tax before deciding to sell! my brother stupidly bought a car before passing his test, taxed it once and then it sat outside our house for the next three years only been driven backward and forward on the drive before being sold on because he finally admitted he wouldnt pass his test!

happybebe · 18/05/2006 15:39

Its all so black and white isnt it. like i say report the people if you want, me, i would feel better giving them the chance. oh and i am sure if you confront them they would actually rather that and go and get tax than be reported and pay huge fines.

yackertyyack · 18/05/2006 15:39

sorry but what if they knocked a kid down when they were collecting from the school??? How would CoV feel for giving them the benefit of the doubt??
(I know that is a bit extreme but it could happen and it usually does with the ones who are not taxed/insured!)

JonesTheSteam · 18/05/2006 15:37

And I don't mean untaxed for a month. If someone was selling a car because they couldn't afford the tax etc., I don't think they'd have waited two years to sell the damn thing, would they!!!?

happybebe · 18/05/2006 15:37

actually i would just ask a complete stranger as i did just two days ago when i found myself trapped in my shared driveway by a car that didnt even have a tax disc. when i managed to locate the owner in the bookies next door thats EXACTLy what i did and his excuse was the tax disc had fallen down. i just told him i had taken a note of his license number. so yes i would just ask a complete stranger.

JonesTheSteam · 18/05/2006 15:36

Sorry, but what sort of person would buy an untaxed car? I certainly wouldn't!!!

expatinscotland · 18/05/2006 15:36

yes, happy, and that's why you don't DRIVE the car for 'several' weeks if you bought it and the tax was out of date until you've sorted the tax out.

it happens all the time to real life working poor people. they don't have the money to pay the tax till payday.

so they ! obey the law and don't drive the car till they get paid and stump up the tax.

foxinsocks · 18/05/2006 15:34

it's been untaxed for 2 years

it's a no brainer

if they were 'good' people, it wouldn't be on the road!

happybebe · 18/05/2006 15:34

yes but if they just bought the car jones then its not them that have had it two years out of date is it! its the previous owners so whilst we agree they shouldnt be driving it any way they should get a little leeway for taxing it from when they first bought it

JonesTheSteam · 18/05/2006 15:34

If the car tax expired in March / April 2006, then I'd give the benefit of the doubt. Not two years!!!!!

katzg · 18/05/2006 15:33

so you would confront a complete stranger as to why they hadn't taxed their vehicle? yeah right!

plus once confronted if they then did nothing about it and you reported them they would know it was you.

sorry i would report it as we did with the car that had been left on our road, we reported it because it was obstructing a friends drive and the only way to get it moved was to report it when the tax ran out, they towed it the 10 days after the tax ran out, they are strict, and so they should be.

JonesTheSteam · 18/05/2006 15:32

The car tax is two years out of date!!! It expired in June 2004. Not a couple of months happybebe!!!

happybebe · 18/05/2006 15:31

you have all said yourself a month or two no tax you wouldnt report it a few weeks is not a month or two is it? perhaps they spent up on the car and are just waiting till pay day at the end of the month to get it? whatever we say none of us know the facts and i guess it boils down to the type of person you are, i prefer to see the good in people and give them a chance, you all obviously dont!

foxinsocks · 18/05/2006 15:29

Here's the link

\link{http://www.direct.gov.uk/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/UntaxedVehicle/UntaxedVehicleArticles/fs/en?CONTENT_ID=4022073&chk=RkhSVT\Reporting an untaxed vehicle}

tis easy - you can do it online

JonesTheSteam · 18/05/2006 15:28

sorry that should have said happybebe, not Marne

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foxinsocks · 18/05/2006 15:27

I reported one the other day and it got towed away! They must have owed loads or had outstanding fines because I don't think they normally tow them.

JonesTheSteam · 18/05/2006 15:27

But they haven't just bought the car, have they Marne?

ComeOVeneer stated earlier down that she has seen them driving it round for several weeks. That's plenty of time to tax a car you've 'just' bought!!!

Maybe they just need directions to the local Post Office, eh?

happybebe · 18/05/2006 15:25

uh huh jones and what if they have just bought the car? fair enough they shouldnt have it on the road anyways but as you have all said you wouldnt suggest reporting it if it was only out of tax by a month or so.

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