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Autumn Low Carb Bootcamp - The Questions Thread

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BIWI · 08/09/2013 14:12

Welcome everybody!

As there are lots of us signed up for the next Bootcamp, you will find that the chat thread moves very quickly! It can be the case, therefore, that questions get missed - hence starting this thread. If you have a specific question or issue, please post it here to make sure that it gets answered. I will do my best to check this thread as often as I can - and if others can answer your question then they will do so as well.

I thought it might be a good idea to start off with some FAQs that often get asked, just to help save a bit of time! So here goes:

How many carbs should I be eating per day to make sure that I lose weight?

There are a couple of points to make here. First, Bootcamp is designed to make low carbing as easy as possible. One of the things that I believe puts people off diets is having to weigh, measure and count everything that they are eating - and of course, this is impossible if you are eating out/on the go. If you make sure that you are following Bootcamp rules, then you should lose weight.

Second, we are different in terms of our ability to cope with carbohydrate. Some people can eat more carbs without gaining weight whereas others have to keep their carbs at quite a low level.

The initial 2 weeks of Bootcamp are designed to be sufficiently low carb for the vast majority of people to lose weight by following it. Although Bootcamp Light (for the remaining 8 weeks of Bootcamp) allows more carbs, it is still supposed to be relatively low carb.

Once you have completed Bootcamp and/or you have reached your target weight, then it's time to start to explore how many carbs you can tolerate before the weight goes back on. And the only way to do this is to experiment by re-introducing carbs. A gradual introduction, along with a vigilant eye on the scales/your waistband will soon tell you if you have overdone it!

Will I ever be able to eat carbs again?!

Absolutely you will - see the answer to the above question! However, if once you reach your target weight you revert back to eating the same level of carbs as you were before you started, then you will put all the weight back on. Carbs make you fat!

The best thing to do is to work out a WOE (way of eating) that keeps the carbs at a sufficiently low level such that you maintain your weight.

By the time you reach your target weight, you will also be ketogenically-adapted, i.e. your body has switched from carb-burning to fat-burning, so the odd night off will not do you too much harm.

How hard is it to eat out when you are low carbing?

It's easier to eat out when you are low carbing than if you are trying to count calories or eat a low fat diet. (As long as you don't find yourself in a restaurant that only serves pizza or pasta!)

The majority of restaurants will have something on their menu that is easily adapted for low carb eating. And it's always possible to ask them to substitute something high carb for something lower carb - so if something is on the menu being served with chips, or rice - ask if they will switch those for a salad, or extra veg. I have never been refused when I have asked this, and it is never an issue.

Some types of restaurants are harder to navigate - Thai is very difficult, not only because of the rice/noodles, but because many of their meals use sugar in the sauces as well as thickeners. At an Indian restaurant, poppadoms, rice, chappattis and naan breads are all (obviously!) out. Aim for a dry curry (so a tandoori or tikka dish), and have that with a side curry such as cauliflower, spinach or mushroom.

The best thing is to be prepared - if the restaurant has a website, have a look to see if they have posted their menu, so you have a chance to see what's available, what you can eat. And you could always ring them in advance to see if they can accommodate any particular needs that you have - mostly restaurants are happy to try and accommodate their customers.

Is it really possible to eat so much fat and still lose weight?

Oh yes! Grin Just ask anyone else who has done Bootcamp! Fat doesn't make you fat. When you eat fat, your body does not produce an insulin spike - unlike when you eat carbs. It is the insulin production that causes your body to lay down fat.

We need fat. It is good for our brains and for our skin.

Also, very importantly, eating fat is very satiating. It is what will help to stop you getting hungry. It's actually quite difficult to eat masses of fat, whereas it's very easy to eat masses of carbs.

Here's a very good piece from a site that's well worth following, all about fat and why it's good for us/isn't going to harm us

Do I have to do any exercise on Bootcamp to lose weight?

Not if you don't want to. Exercise, as a means of losing weight, is way over-rated. You have to exercise a lot and frequently to lose a significant amount of weight. For example, I have recently taken up running. My last run saw me burn 390 calories. That's quite a lot - but that was after running for 30 minutes, and for 5km.

On my plan (and on the advice of my osteopath) I am only supposed to run three times a week. That would mean that in the course of a week I have burnt off 1,170 calories. Not that much in the grand scheme of things - but that's a lot of running!

Exercise can help you, but it's not essential.

I do a lot of regular exercise, and I'm advised by my trainer/the gym to eat plenty of carbs and/or to carb load before I run/cycle/train - what should I do if I'm low carbing?

Once you are ketogenically-adapted, you will be able to train quite happily whilst following a low carb diet. Your body will be using fat as its fuel source - and let's face it, most of us have plenty of fat readily available for that. Whereas with carbs, our bodies actually only store a limited amount in our muscles and our liver. Once these have gone, and we have emptied our glycogen stores, that's when you will find yourself 'hitting the wall' or 'bonking'. This is why serious athletes often have to carry various gels and drinks - so that they can replenish their carbs/glycogen very quickly. This won't happen if you are burning fat.

If you're in doubt, there's a very good book called "The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance" by Drs Jeff S Volek and Stephen D Phinney. Here is a description of the book from the Amazon website:

"A Revolutionary Program to Extend Your Physical and Mental Performance Envelope. Our recent book 'The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living' was written for health care professionals, championing the benefits of carbohydrate restriction to manage insulin resistance, metabolic syndrome, and type-2 diabetes. In response, our athlete friends asked "What about us?" This companion book is our answer, and it could be titled: 'The Art and Science of Avoiding the BONK'. But actually, it is much much more than that. The keto-adapted athlete benefits from superior fuel flow not only when nearing glycogen depletion, but also during training, recovery, and in response to resistance exercise as well."

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JustasmallGless · 11/09/2013 23:34

Will try and answer some q's

I think with ketostix best used in the morning

Full fat Philly/Boursin is fine.
Some people do stall with dairy so its about working out what's right for your body

Snacks - pork scratchings?
To be honest I was the worlds worst snacker but I truly don't need to on this WOE. When I do it's when I have been eating higher catbs and knock myself out of ketosis.

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JustasmallGless · 11/09/2013 23:35

Spreadsheet is on the main bootcamp thread - entitled week1. Sorry cant link on phone

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Torrorosso · 12/09/2013 07:26

Thanks justasmallgless. I can report I am apparently in ketosis then - a nice pink strip this morning.

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Torrorosso · 12/09/2013 07:41

And I have lost 1lb since Monday Grin

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WillieWaggledagger · 12/09/2013 08:06

spreadsheet is here

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captainmummy · 12/09/2013 08:19

Feelinglucky my appetite is practically nil. - is this a bad thing? It will stop you snacking, for one thing, and it is evidence that your body is burning fat!
I went from eating every 2 hours or so (high-carb, low-fat) and now can go from 730 to 3pm without getting that faint, shaky, starving feeling. When you eat high-carb, it raises your blood sugar levels - and then they crash a few hours later, leaving you starving and craving more carbs. Eating fat and protein levels out your blood sugars, so you don't get that crash.
Gless -I had rosacea too, and my skin is so much better on this WOE.

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MCspammer · 12/09/2013 09:59

Soup Question:

Very confused about soup. Broccoli and Cauliflower soup to be precise which are on the approved vegetable list. Homemade with chicken stock, very very small shallot, garlic, butter, herbs and spices. Comes out as 8g carb per bowl Shock Surely this is too many carbs in one sitting and yet it's just permitted veg and water?

Is it allowed on first two weeks of bootcamp? If not what soup can I have because I LOVE soup.

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BIWI · 12/09/2013 10:15

How much did the broccoli, cauliflower and shallot weigh overall, MCspammer? (love your name!)

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charlie7 · 12/09/2013 10:21

Just a quick q, I'm doing well so far this week and def losing weight, not much time to keep up with the main thread though, however I am going to the loo a lot. Had to get up in middle of the night for a wee! I know it's because I'm drinking all the water I should be, but does this continue? Should I need the toilet less as we go on? Thanks in advance!

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MCspammer · 12/09/2013 10:22

why thank you BIWI ... you can't touch this Cake

Brocoli was about 300g and cauli about 200g ish. So that's a combined weight of 100g per bowl Confused

you haven't said yes straight off which worries me

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captainmummy · 12/09/2013 10:24

Charlie - you do start off going all the time as your body is releasing water stored in fat cells too - and hopefully these are not being replenished! It does get better (but i can't drink after 8pm otherwise I am up in the night - tht may be my age!)

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captainmummy · 12/09/2013 10:27

Did you make the stock too? Stock cubes range from 4-10g/100g.

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MCspammer · 12/09/2013 10:35

I didn't make the stock no, it's was one of those Knorr stock pots.

So just to be clear then a bowl of soup that has 8g carbs in it is a no go? but why not if you stay under say 20g carb a day Confused again

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charlie7 · 12/09/2013 10:40

Thank you Captain, and maybe I need to not drink later on too, good point! I'm just quite thirsty that's all.

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BIWI · 12/09/2013 10:41

Where did you get your carb counts from?

300g broccoli = 3.3g carbs
200g cauliflower = 3.8g carbs
Total - 7.1g carbs, plus the carbs in the shallots and the stock cube

Divided by however many bowls that amount served.

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captainmummy · 12/09/2013 10:41

Where did you get the carb count from? Is it MFP or the like? I do find that I don't agree with a lot of their carb-counts. Have you looked at the 'allowed' veg section on the spreadsheet and totted it up yourself?
I suppose 8g in one meal is not bad? Does it have cream/butter in to fill you up? Grin

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pootlebug · 12/09/2013 10:47

MCSpammer - not sure on the carb count thing on your soup, but would recommend creamy soups made with either coconut milk or double cream. Adds some fat to give you energy, and keep you full in a way that veggies and water just won't.

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MCspammer · 12/09/2013 10:55

yes MFP

300g broccoli comes out at 20g carb and 200g cauilflower as 11g carb, 8g for the stock pot and then obviously there's a couple in shallot and garlic and.

So! what the fuck with MFP then?

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MCspammer · 12/09/2013 10:58

sorry to bang on about this but I'm really not clear about "total" carbs for the day and whether there is an upper limit to how many you should eat in one sitting i.e. at what point do you get an insulin response?

I'm not trying to be difficult I'm just trying to understand

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MCspammer · 12/09/2013 11:05

so having whizzed through a number of options on MFP it seems that 100g broccoli is pitched at anything from 2g/100g right up to 36g which is obviously ridiculous. Arrrgghh so annoyed (even though actually I see that a bowl of my soup is fine!) How can these numbers vary so much and which is the right one? how do we know. BIWI where do you get your figures from as they seem the most sensible and I would like to look at the source for other info

TIA

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MCspammer · 12/09/2013 11:05

Blush do I get the award for the most annoying poster of this thread? Blush

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Torrorosso · 12/09/2013 11:16

BIWI will correct me if wrong I'm sure, but total carbs per day are whatever works for you.

I believe Atkins is ridiculously low at 20g, but apparently up to 40 to 60 will see you lose weight, even up to 100g if you're very active. That's my understanding, but I may be wrong.

I'm having about 40g a day and seem to be in ketosis and losing weight even though I only have a few pounds to lose.

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janx · 12/09/2013 11:17

Thanks have added weight to spreadsheet now

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BIWI · 12/09/2013 11:28

MCspammer - Is MFP American? If so, then they include fibre in their carb counts, which is why they are so high.

My carb counts come (mainly) from this site , but I also have a couple of books that I sometimes reference.

Torrorosso is right - everyone is different in terms of the amount of carbs that they can tolerate. Atkins is only 20g for his induction period, which he advises is for 2 weeks - then after that, you add 5g carbs per day until you find the point at which your weight loss stops and you start to gain weight.

Whilst we don't count/weigh on Bootcamp (unless you really want to!), the idea behind the first two weeks is that your carbs will be significantly lower than they would be normally, and you will probably be eating around 20-50g carbs per day. Dr Briffa would say that anything under 100g should see you losing weight, but I know that for some people that is too high. Others can cope with it - you just have to work it out for yourself, I'm afraid.

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MCspammer · 12/09/2013 11:54

aha! I think MFP is an American site

thanks for the link to the site, much better and I'm clear now on the daily carb issue - phew! panic over

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