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Autumn Low Carb Bootcamp - The Questions Thread

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BIWI · 08/09/2013 14:12

Welcome everybody!

As there are lots of us signed up for the next Bootcamp, you will find that the chat thread moves very quickly! It can be the case, therefore, that questions get missed - hence starting this thread. If you have a specific question or issue, please post it here to make sure that it gets answered. I will do my best to check this thread as often as I can - and if others can answer your question then they will do so as well.

I thought it might be a good idea to start off with some FAQs that often get asked, just to help save a bit of time! So here goes:

How many carbs should I be eating per day to make sure that I lose weight?

There are a couple of points to make here. First, Bootcamp is designed to make low carbing as easy as possible. One of the things that I believe puts people off diets is having to weigh, measure and count everything that they are eating - and of course, this is impossible if you are eating out/on the go. If you make sure that you are following Bootcamp rules, then you should lose weight.

Second, we are different in terms of our ability to cope with carbohydrate. Some people can eat more carbs without gaining weight whereas others have to keep their carbs at quite a low level.

The initial 2 weeks of Bootcamp are designed to be sufficiently low carb for the vast majority of people to lose weight by following it. Although Bootcamp Light (for the remaining 8 weeks of Bootcamp) allows more carbs, it is still supposed to be relatively low carb.

Once you have completed Bootcamp and/or you have reached your target weight, then it's time to start to explore how many carbs you can tolerate before the weight goes back on. And the only way to do this is to experiment by re-introducing carbs. A gradual introduction, along with a vigilant eye on the scales/your waistband will soon tell you if you have overdone it!

Will I ever be able to eat carbs again?!

Absolutely you will - see the answer to the above question! However, if once you reach your target weight you revert back to eating the same level of carbs as you were before you started, then you will put all the weight back on. Carbs make you fat!

The best thing to do is to work out a WOE (way of eating) that keeps the carbs at a sufficiently low level such that you maintain your weight.

By the time you reach your target weight, you will also be ketogenically-adapted, i.e. your body has switched from carb-burning to fat-burning, so the odd night off will not do you too much harm.

How hard is it to eat out when you are low carbing?

It's easier to eat out when you are low carbing than if you are trying to count calories or eat a low fat diet. (As long as you don't find yourself in a restaurant that only serves pizza or pasta!)

The majority of restaurants will have something on their menu that is easily adapted for low carb eating. And it's always possible to ask them to substitute something high carb for something lower carb - so if something is on the menu being served with chips, or rice - ask if they will switch those for a salad, or extra veg. I have never been refused when I have asked this, and it is never an issue.

Some types of restaurants are harder to navigate - Thai is very difficult, not only because of the rice/noodles, but because many of their meals use sugar in the sauces as well as thickeners. At an Indian restaurant, poppadoms, rice, chappattis and naan breads are all (obviously!) out. Aim for a dry curry (so a tandoori or tikka dish), and have that with a side curry such as cauliflower, spinach or mushroom.

The best thing is to be prepared - if the restaurant has a website, have a look to see if they have posted their menu, so you have a chance to see what's available, what you can eat. And you could always ring them in advance to see if they can accommodate any particular needs that you have - mostly restaurants are happy to try and accommodate their customers.

Is it really possible to eat so much fat and still lose weight?

Oh yes! Grin Just ask anyone else who has done Bootcamp! Fat doesn't make you fat. When you eat fat, your body does not produce an insulin spike - unlike when you eat carbs. It is the insulin production that causes your body to lay down fat.

We need fat. It is good for our brains and for our skin.

Also, very importantly, eating fat is very satiating. It is what will help to stop you getting hungry. It's actually quite difficult to eat masses of fat, whereas it's very easy to eat masses of carbs.

Here's a very good piece from a site that's well worth following, all about fat and why it's good for us/isn't going to harm us

Do I have to do any exercise on Bootcamp to lose weight?

Not if you don't want to. Exercise, as a means of losing weight, is way over-rated. You have to exercise a lot and frequently to lose a significant amount of weight. For example, I have recently taken up running. My last run saw me burn 390 calories. That's quite a lot - but that was after running for 30 minutes, and for 5km.

On my plan (and on the advice of my osteopath) I am only supposed to run three times a week. That would mean that in the course of a week I have burnt off 1,170 calories. Not that much in the grand scheme of things - but that's a lot of running!

Exercise can help you, but it's not essential.

I do a lot of regular exercise, and I'm advised by my trainer/the gym to eat plenty of carbs and/or to carb load before I run/cycle/train - what should I do if I'm low carbing?

Once you are ketogenically-adapted, you will be able to train quite happily whilst following a low carb diet. Your body will be using fat as its fuel source - and let's face it, most of us have plenty of fat readily available for that. Whereas with carbs, our bodies actually only store a limited amount in our muscles and our liver. Once these have gone, and we have emptied our glycogen stores, that's when you will find yourself 'hitting the wall' or 'bonking'. This is why serious athletes often have to carry various gels and drinks - so that they can replenish their carbs/glycogen very quickly. This won't happen if you are burning fat.

If you're in doubt, there's a very good book called "The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance" by Drs Jeff S Volek and Stephen D Phinney. Here is a description of the book from the Amazon website:

"A Revolutionary Program to Extend Your Physical and Mental Performance Envelope. Our recent book 'The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living' was written for health care professionals, championing the benefits of carbohydrate restriction to manage insulin resistance, metabolic syndrome, and type-2 diabetes. In response, our athlete friends asked "What about us?" This companion book is our answer, and it could be titled: 'The Art and Science of Avoiding the BONK'. But actually, it is much much more than that. The keto-adapted athlete benefits from superior fuel flow not only when nearing glycogen depletion, but also during training, recovery, and in response to resistance exercise as well."

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CatherineMumsnet · 15/09/2013 11:49

Hi BIWI, I've been low-carbing for a couple of weeks now (although I have had a couple of cheats - we do love our dominos in this house, but only one night a week ) and I may have had the odd glass of red .

I don't own scales, although I know I have roughly 2 stone to lose and I certainly feel leaner. I'm drinking 5 pints of water a day and have noticed a reduction in my appetite. I work full time thought and the salad season has definitely come to an end - any other tips for low carb lunches that can be pre-prepared?

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CatherineMumsnet · 15/09/2013 11:50

though not thought obvs

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MrsHerculePoirot · 15/09/2013 13:43

Salad season never comes to a end for me! Alternative though is soups / probably best to make your own as all the shop ones hae sugar/potatoes etc.. in them.

Or a lunchbox full of picky things, olives, meats, cheeses, cucumber sticks etc...you can roll up some Philadelphia in ham with a bit of cucumber for example, or have pâté on cucumber or celery for example.

Seriously though if you want to lose the weight, you really do need to ditch the dominoes!!!!

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halfthesize · 15/09/2013 13:48

Catherine how about homemade soup in a flask. Also agree with MrsHP ditch the dominosSmile

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tenementfunster · 15/09/2013 14:24

hi there
what's the situation with gravy granules?

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giraffeseatpineapples · 15/09/2013 14:48

cold frittata - mainly because I like saying frittata Grin Had some with chorizo in today - yum.

I was really surprised that neither waitrose nor my local healthfood shop had coconut flour, tapioca flour etc. Think all those bits are more available in America?

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janx · 15/09/2013 16:19

Anyone recommend some not too expensive scales. Usually go to boots to weigh myself but not that convienant

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whodunnit · 15/09/2013 16:57

Hello

MAy I mention the unmentionable? Look away all fainthearted people. Pooing. I feel absolutley fine but have not had a poo apart form a small rabbit dropping for at least 3 days. Is this normal and what's the cure? I have been eating very well and am a bit worried that all this meat and eggs is piling up inside somewhere. I have eaten a fair amount of cucumber, celery n green salad, but today I have moved onto cabbage and celeriac soup try to increase the fibre. I have also tried a couple of spoons of phylltic husks but am loathe to take any more in case they just get caught up in the backlog.

The good news is that if I ever lose all the food that must be lodged in my gut somewhere, I reckon I'll drop a kilo instantly. Am I alone or is this normal, and how do you get over it?

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MrsHerculePoirot · 15/09/2013 16:57

janx I have these ones. They are great and I would highly recommend them if they are in your price range?

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MrsHerculePoirot · 15/09/2013 16:58

whodunnit keep up drinking the water and eating fat and you should be fine. I like to think it is partly because you are not eating too many things that your body doesn't need/can't digest and so there is less wastage to come out if that makes sense! As long as you are not uncomfortable I think you are fine...

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MrsHerculePoirot · 15/09/2013 16:59

giraffes I can't find them in my waitrose either, but have heard rumours they are in the bigger tescos and sainsburys? I have also heard that they are in different places depending ont he shop (eg with baking stuff, gluten free stuff, asian foods etc...) so you might have to ask!

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whodunnit · 15/09/2013 17:03

Thanks MrsHercule. Am doing ok with the water and taking on much more fat than my brain tells me I should be doing....should have followed my dad's advice and become a mathematician then I couddl have got a pencil and worked it out.... sorry ...... can't use a joke like that very often.... argh, I am turning into my dad!

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Lifeisontheup · 15/09/2013 18:50

I've been doing really well with the water (at least 4L a day) but I'm back at work tomorrow with limited access to loos.
Do you think it would be ok to drink most of my water when I get home with perhaps a litre before I go in or does this mess things up?

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giraffeseatpineapples · 15/09/2013 19:48

That's interesting Mrs Poirot, I will keep that in mind when I am at one of the larger supermarkets; the ones round here are medium sized.

Whodunnit - try taking a magnesium supplement if your not already.

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MrsHerculePoirot · 15/09/2013 20:38

Life it is fine, I end up doing that sometimes... but it does mean I am up and down all night!!!

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janx · 15/09/2013 22:04

Thanks for the scales link mrsH - they look great

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whodunnit · 16/09/2013 00:00

Magnesium supplement, it is then. Thanks, giraffe.

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BIWI · 16/09/2013 00:08

If you are going to the toilet without difficulty, then you are not constipated. Keep eating the fat and drinking the water. And stop worrying about how much fat you are eating! Honestly, you should be eating mainly fat, then protein and then carbs.

Catherine - please, please, please ditch the pizza! Once you have switched your body to burning fat rather than carbs you will be able to do this, but in these first few weeks it is really important to keep the carbs down as much as possible and as consistently as possible.

Re lunch - I agree with MrsHP - salad season is never over! A can of tuna, with mayonnaise and salad or egg mayonnaise with salad is a great lunch. Do you have a supermarket near you that has a hot food counter? Rotisserie chicken with salad is lovely. (Just avoid the flavoured chicken as they all have sugar in them). If you have a microwave at work, then try making extra at dinner and taking leftovers in with you for lunch the next day.

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ImABadGirl · 16/09/2013 10:59

Hello all,

I've been looking at low carbing but I'm a very fussy eater, can it work for me?

Things I don't eat:

fish
red meat
butter
cheese
dairy
any meat that is on a bone

I'm at a loss to what I would eat if I low carbed...

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captainmummy · 16/09/2013 11:21

Badgirl - what do you eat now? Grin I'm guessing mainly carbs?
It will be very difficult to low-carb if you don't eat butter; we need the fat to fuel our bodies - and burn fat! If you eat chicken you could survive on just that, but you would need to fry it, pref in butter as it is too low-fat to low-carb with otherwise.

Do you eat mayo? Eggs? Lunches could be salad with lots of oily dressing/mayo and eggs or veg, breakfast more eggs (fried,scrambled with butter/mayo, boiled mashed with butter/mayo) . Dinner more chicken with veg roasted in oil

Can I ask why don't you eat butter/cheese/dairy? Is it the 'Fat is bad' thing, spouted by government spokesmen for the past 30-40 years? If so, we can reassure you. Fat doesn't make you fat - sugar(carbs) does! Look at the latest bootcamp thread for encouraging losses - after only 1 week!

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ImABadGirl · 16/09/2013 11:52

thank you for replying, I don't eat an awful lot tbh but what I do eat are totally the wrong things. I don't eat things because I don't like the taste of them, I don't eat mayo and I'll only eat eggs if they are in an omelette.

I really don't like the taste of butter and avoid it, I love vegetables but wouldn't like them if they were fried in butter.

I've done well on the fasting woe purely because I don't eat much anyway and thought low carbing would help me shift the last stone that I seem to enjoy hanging onto!

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WillieWaggledagger · 16/09/2013 12:15

imabadgirl, what are your daily meals on an average non-fasting day? if you list them we might be able to advise how you could "low-carbify" them (within certain limits!)

as it doesn't look like you eat many naturally fatty foods it might be quite tricky, as fat makes you feel satiated and you would almost certainly feel miserable and hungry on a lean protein and veg only diet. i'm guessing no dairy rules out yoghurt and cream too...

do you like olive oil?

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WillieWaggledagger · 16/09/2013 12:18

imabadgirl, this is the list of allowed foods - which of these would you be able to eat?

  • Any fresh/unprocessed meat and fish. (Anything processed, like crab sticks or pre-prepared burgers are likely to have carbs - always check the back of the packet)


  • Processed meats/fish - bacon, ham, smoked salmon, etc - in moderation (not just because they have carbs but also because they often contain artificial ingredients, which we are also trying to avoid)


  • Eggs - no limit on these


  • Fresh veg/salad from the allowed veg list (and focusing on those that are 3g carbs per 100g or less)


  • Fresh lemon/limes - you can use a little juice in marinades/dressings - just don't go mad and use a bucket-load.


  • Frozen veg can be brilliant and is often surprisingly good - whole leaf spinach is especially good; cauliflower and broccoli are good standbys.


  • Tinned fish like tuna (if you're buying things like sardines/pilchards/mackerel in sauces, check the carb count first)


  • Tinned tomatoes - for soups/sauces; although they are quite carby, a little can go a long way. Sainsbury's Basics chopped tomatoes in a carton are lower in carbs


  • Olive oil for salad dressings (ideally you shouldn't cook with olive oil but should use something like coconut oil instead - but coconut oil can be very expensive, so this one is up to you)


  • Sesame oil for stir fries and marinades


  • Vinegar for salad dressings - not balsamic vinegar, which is very high in carbs, compared with white wine vinegar which is zero carbs


  • Soy sauce - for marinades or adding to stir fries, but beware it does contain carbs - check the labels first


  • Mayonnaise - again, check the labels as the carb counts vary tremendously (and always full fat)


  • Butter - as much as you like for either cooking or putting on veg


  • Cheese/cream - in moderation; dairy can stall some people so go easy on this until you know if it affects you or not


  • Yoghurt tends to be better tolerated - always, always, always full fat though and always plain! (Vanilla extract in yoghurt is lovely - Waitrose make one which is sugar-free)


  • Olives - these are very low in carbs and make a useful snack as well as an addition to salads/sauces


  • Water. If you find still/tap water boring, then sparkling water is fine. You should be aiming to drink at least two litres of water a day.
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ImABadGirl · 16/09/2013 12:23

A typical non fast day would be no breakfast, fruit probably a banana, vegetable stir fry with wholewheat noodles, and chocolate as a pudding Grin

Like I said I have no idea how I got fat in the first place!

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ImABadGirl · 16/09/2013 12:25

I also don't like yoghurt but do like olive oil but I don't like oil on salads.

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