Unexplained infertility

[Zara84]

Hi,

I have had a number of blood work, hycosy, scans, all to show that there are no issues and ovulation is happening ( detected via opks and also a scan showing ovulation has occurred on 2 occasions)

My husband has now had 2 sperm analysis tests and both have returned normal, the previous one with even better results than last as he has been taking proxeed.

My question is - is there anything obvious I have not done yet?

I have also taken up cupping therapy to help me relax, and have started a healthier lifestyle and more excercise... on the flip side 3 of my friends ( 2 of which are obese and have pcos ) are on their 2nd pregnancies.

I have my follow up appt with my consultant next week but wanted to check if anyone else has been in a similar position and were there any other tests you did or any changes you made?

I may add the only possible issue is my thyroid levels are slightly out at 3.6 tsh rather than the desired 2.5. But is that truly enough to cause infertility? I know colleagues who have worse thyroid results and have had children.... losing the will to carry on here - any insight will be appreciated.

Thanks

[2fingers22018]

@physicskate of course listen im not trying to argue i dont come on here to do that but 30% success rate is not a correct figure to toss around imo. Everyones entitled to their opinion but i would suggest looking at the stats for the clinic that your going to attend that will give you a realistic figure

[physicskate]

I did. It was 34%. But then I looked at figures for my age and basic history. And the figures were lower (26%). Over 40 was 16%. But that is tokenistic as it depends on why you need the treatment in the first place.

So it does depend on your own person. Perhaps it was silly of me to throw out 30% (the highly quoted figure), but I was simply trying to point out and my point was that it doesn't always work! And rightly too - many people I've spoken to think ivf works first time all the time and are very flippant about using it as treatment.

[2fingers22018]

@physicskate yes many ppl are flippant about ivf not everyone and i certainly dont think this was the case here kelly was merely stating that if the op used nhs ivf they would have their savings as a back up. Im trying to do the same its the smart thing to do my 3rounds of nhs might not be enough i might need to go private bottom line is no one knows

[physicskate]

I was being cautious for anyone who needs this thread in the future and felt that a few qualifying words she used indicated a bit of that, so I was just trying to clarify, as I've already explained. Not sure why you're taking issue with me when I was just trying to add a realistic view... I thought you said you didn't pick arguments? It certainly seems you are trying to over an already resolved issue?? I'm sorry you seem to have a problem with me.

[Kelly199]

@2fingers22018 yes, that is what I was trying to say x

[anxiousmotherof1]

Hi ,
I was in the same position as you
Everything normal the only thing that was not ideal was my tsh which was 3.4 .
I went to a ferility clinic and the doctor there gave me levothyroxine even though i was not technically "hypothyroid" but his suspision was that i was becoming hypothyroid on conception and the egg was not impanting
Anw i have a ds now . I fell pregnant 6 weeks after taking thyroxine

[physicskate]

Why is this even an issue over a week later?? Do your research is all I'm saying! There is a prevalent attitude that ivf always works when statistics say it doesn't. I simply wanted to clarify that as I think everyone should go into ivf with their eyes open with realistic (and probably low) expectations. You simply need to look on other threads to see how often it doesn't work and I wanted to make sure the op knew it didn't always work.

[physicskate]

www.verywellfamily.com/what-are-the-chances-for-ivf-success-1960213

www.nhs.uk/news/pregnancy-and-child/ivf-calculator-predicts-chances-of-success/

www.webmd.com/infertility-and-reproduction/guide/in-vitro-fertilization

Here are a few stats for you then. I don't just pluck this stuff from thin air. That's not my bag.

[Zara84]

Hi ladies - just a quick update : I just had a meeting with my consultant who asked me to choose between having a break/ go on holiday and relax or clomid! So she has written out a prescription for clomid asked me not to take it until I’m ready as it’s quite strong stuff, she said to have a scan at the clinic on day 1 after my period stops and then start the clomid... think I’m going to relax for 2months and then start the clomid... too much other stuff happening with work etc at the moment.. and feel like I want to give my body a chance to do it alone for a month or 2.

She also said if clomid doesn’t work she would advise IVF by end of the month, but wouldn’t advise it at the moment as everything looks ok for now...

Hope you all are okay x

[physicskate]

@zoezipp - I'd love it if we could keep this civil and refrain from unfounded personal attacks. I'm sure you can agree with that.

[2fingers22018]

@Zara84 thats great that you something to try before the ivf gd luck hun x @zoezipp thanks some people seem to think they know more than the doctors lol im just ignoring her comments now taking the high road lol x

[Zara84]

Hi ladies - I just spoke with my consultant to discuss where we go from here.

She said she wouldn’t advise IVF just yet and would rather I choose between taking a small break 2-3 months and try to de stress, eat well, relax etc. Take vitamins. ( she specifically mentioned proxeed plus for men and women)

The other option is to start clomid - I know a few people who took this and it messed with their moods so am wary... she has prescribed it though and I have committed to starting taking it in June ... I am away in May and don’t want it to affect my moods.

Hope your all doing okay x

[Zara84]

Oh sorry I didn’t think the previous message posted - ignore me!

[zoezipp]

How do you feel about it Zara? Taking some time out to destress sounds good but I appreciate it may not be for everyone when ttc for a while. Really hope it happens for you

[2fingers22018]

@zoezipp just report her if she keeps harassing you hun thanks for the support x

[SheeshazAZ09]

Change your diet to 100% wholefood organic. This is being tried successfully by some fertility clinics/docs in the US with massive success. Problem here is that a lot of pesticides are endocrine disruptors at very low levels so you have to try to avoid them.

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[Zara84]

I feel like I want to take a break to be honest.. I want to try to feel “normal” feel like my life has been constant tests, looking at dates etc for 2 years...I have signed up to spin and yoga classes starting next week to help relax... let’s see nothing to lose and I just think where I’ve waited so long 2 months more of a potential loss I can bear... it’s so draining isn’t it?

I will keep you posted if anything happens ...as the fairy god mother in Cinderella said “ even miracles take a little time” :)

[Kelly199]

Good luck @Zara84 I hope it will work out for you xx

[Luciep83]

Thanks for the update Zara84,

I wish you all the best over the next couple of months 😊

I'm off to a private fertililty clinic tomorrow, so we'll see how that goes xxx