Tory scum about to unleash a sh*tstorm of destructive policies over Easter - who wants to bet on riots?

[ttosca]

The 'Bedroom tax', Universal Credit, and various other welfare and public service cuts to be implemented in the coming weeks and months.

Tens of thousands of people will be utterly f**ked by this government. What do you think is going to happen?

www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/28/benefit-cuts-monday-defines-government

The last time the Conservatives had a majority was 20(?) years go. Who wants to bet they'll never have one again?

[lottieandmia]

Foil hat? Yeah right...

I totally agree mini and ttosca, thank god some people speak sense on here. This is not a theoretical discussion. People are going to die because of these policies.

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

But they are poor people, lazy scroungers, a drain on society, so that's OK...

[Peahentailfeathers]

Welfare (and the NHS) is paid by NI contribitions and current runs at a £2bn yearly surplus - this money is invested or loaned to the government.

It is protected by statute and the money may not be used for any other purpose.

What is the point of the government cutting welfare? Any savings cannot go into the general budget except by means of a loan which must be repaid. What is really going on?

[aufaniae]

One of my family members is a serving Police Officer. She said to me (before the last election) that lots of police prefer it when the Tories are in as there is more civil unrest, meaning more overtime for them. Many of the police working at the time of the Poll Tax managed to make big inroads into their mortgage debts for example on the back of all the overtime.

Actually this government has managed to piss even the police off, and IIRC police overtime now no longer works as it did before.

However it was an interesting insight IMO.

[aufaniae]

"This is not a theoretical discussion. People are going to die because of these policies."

Sadly, very true.

There will also be massive damage to our society, through the breaking up of communities and impoverishing of so many people, especially children.

What kind of future are we "investing" in?

[lottieandmia]

I'd say what is really going on is 'divide and rule'. They turn people against each other while they get on with screwing the country up.

[MiniTheMinx]

Yep screwing the country over while they inspire right wing nationalism. Telling us that we must dig a little deeper to save the country while they sell off the NHS and chunks of welfare provision to American health companies and the likes of Atos. And those on the right wonder why some of us get a bit narked.

[ssd]

to me the worst bit in all of this is the removal of legal aid

so if you do decide you have a case to fight with the bedroom tax, problems with unfair employers, disputes with neighbours,pretty much any problem...the TOUGH

...either represent yourself or pay for a private lawyer ...as if

awful choice, as in no choice at all

just take it up the arse and shut up about it

[LittleAbruzzenBear]

I agree with your comments and whilst people are worrying about a roof over their heads, food and clothing, the rich get richer......

[niceguy2]

who wants to bet on riots?

Not seen any riots yet. I sincerely doubt there will be.

As for the rest of the thread. It makes the Daily Mail sound reasonable.

[Chipstick10]

Frightening isn't it!!

[aufaniae]

niceguy2 did you read my post about what my family member who's a WPC said?

Personally I don't think there will be riots yet, but if the Tories plans continue as published I think it's very likely indeed.

Have you forgotten the Poll Tax?

[GrowSomeCress]

niceguy2 this thread seems to be like a left-wing version of the daily mail

[niceguy2]

Yes I did Aufaniae. But I don't think one officer's opinion should be taken as representative of the entire force. Probably more likely to be locker room banter than anything else.

Besides which, unless you are a deficit denier then you accept that cuts must be made somewhere. And thankfully we have made cuts before we ended up like Greece, Spain, Portugal and Cyprus. There'd definitely be riots then when our country goes bankrupt through a lack of action rather than through any intentional malice.

To me this is the equivalent of the kids kicking off at the parents whom are trying to get a handle (finally) on their debts. But the truth is that unless they make the painful choices now, someone else will come along later and force even worse choices upon them.

And to put it all into perspective, so far all the coalition have managed is to slow the rate of increase of our welfare system. They haven't really been able to make any real term cuts at all, despite their spin to the contrary.