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MumsnetGuestPosts · 07/09/2017 16:35

This week sees the start of the new school year.

As much as the school holidays can be fun for families spending time together, the new school term can come as a relief for many parents, after a summer of juggling work with their childcare responsibilities.

Childcare is a big expense that too many families struggle with – and not just during the summer holidays. So much so that childcare costs can stop some parents from returning to careers that matter to them, or make them think twice about working as many hours as they would like.

This government is doing something about that, with our 30 hours free childcare offer. It’s about supporting working families by making childcare affordable.

Working parents of three and four year olds who earn less than £100,000 a year are eligible, and over 200,000 families have already received their codes to take up the offer this term.

This new childcare policy should save around £5,000 per year for each child - and that’s on top of the support already available to many families through Tax-Free Childcare, which is available to around two million families in the UK. Parents can open an online childcare account and pay into this directly, meaning for every £8 you pay in, the government will add an extra £2 – up to £2,000 per year for each child under 12 years old.

All of this is a huge boost to families’ finances and takes away some of the barriers that might have been preventing parents from working. That’s certainly been the case for many of the 15,000 families that benefitted from the offer when we tested it out early in a number of areas across the country.

An independent survey of parents in eight of the councils that started the offer last September found four in five families said their finances improved.

Kurstie, a working parent in Staffordshire was one of the parents who benefitted from the offer early. She told us that having access to 30 hours of free childcare was the “greatest gift a working parent can be given”.

All this is backed up by our record investment of £6 billion per year in childcare, which includes an extra £1 billion per year by 2020 to deliver the free offers. This has meant more money for local authorities to pass on nurseries, childminders and other providers that will be delivering this offer.

For me as Education Secretary, this isn’t just about helping families with the big costs of childcare. We now know that high-quality childcare helps our children to develop, play and learn, helping them to go further at school. The good news is that nine in ten early years providers are now rated as good or outstanding, so parents can feel confident that their children will be getting a great education. And that ultimately will be the longer term impact of the government’s new policy on childcare – young people getting a better start in life.

Information for parents
More than 200,000 codes have already been issued to families and around 2,000 parents are successfully applying through the website every day. We know that there have been technical issues for some parents and we want to reassure them that no one should lose out because of this. Anyone who has experienced issues should call the childcare service helpline on 0300 123 4097. You can find out more at //www.childcarechoices.gov.uk

Children and Families Minister, Robert Goodwill, will be responding to questions and comments on this post shortly.

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Hugepeppapigfan · 09/09/2017 21:26

Mumsnet - please can you tell us the timescale for replies?

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breadwidow · 09/09/2017 21:28

Why is this ill thought out policy (plus the new tax free childcare) only available to couples where both parents are working? This is the sort of support people who have taken a break from work to look after kids need in order to get back into work. Finding a job after a career break is hard, you need more than 15hrs child free to do it, especially if retraining is involved. I'm more disgusted by the limit on the tax free childcare - why deny this benefit to the working parent of families who have decided to put their kids first and had a parent at home? Fortunately I'm in an old voucher scheme so wasn't aware of this til now

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Greebz · 09/09/2017 21:46

Why does this government call it 30 hours of free chilcare when it's not? It is subsidised childcare! Disingenous and infuriating.

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FlandersRocks · 10/09/2017 10:47

I'm more disgusted by the limit on the tax free childcare - why deny this benefit to the working parent of families who have decided to put their kids first and had a parent at home?

Put their kids first? What utter inflammatory bollocks.

Why would a SAHP need regular childcare exactly? Hmm

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breadwidow · 10/09/2017 11:30

Because you need child free time to find a job / retrain after a few years out for your kids.

Sorry yes statement was a little inflammatory- I think many parents cannot even stay at home if they want too as living costs so high. What I mean is that stay at home parents should not be vilified, as should people earning very low incomes (you cannot even get it if you earn less than £120 pw which could be the case for an apprentice or something). Children do benefit from a parent at home for the first 3 years and after that you need help to find a job, not be made ineligible for a bunch of stuff

I'm also more annoyed at the tax free childcare only being open to couples where both parents are in work than the free 30 hrs.

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Babbitywabbit · 10/09/2017 19:27

Impossible to have a meaningful dialogue with anyone who comes out with shit about 'putting children first' by having a parent at home

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breadwidow · 10/09/2017 22:44

As I said in the previous post, I'm sorry I used that phrase. I didn't mean to goad, more to try and persuade the education secretary . . . I do think the policy is very critical and harsh to those who have taken a career break (or been unemployed). I feel like it rewards those who have managed to find a job that makes childcare viable for the years before this comes in (when it's most expensive) and penalises those who chose to stay at home for a bit (or who were forced to because work didn't pay enough to cover care, or because they were made redundant). I was reacting to that rather than having a go at other parents, but it didn't come across that way and I'm sorry.

Also, I am not suggesting that sahp who want to stay at home should get the free 30 hrs, but why should you be denied it if you are not working but retraining or actively seeking employment (the latter is a bit harder to monitor I guess, but the former surely would be easy?). You cannot do either of these without childcare & for most 15 hrs won't be enough

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Awwlookatmybabyspider · 11/09/2017 09:10

"Justine, Does this government value stay at home parents"

Yes as long as they're not single parents.

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Nicktynoo · 11/09/2017 16:49

As a disabled single mum of a 4 year old who has just started reception class, i earn 13,000pa. My wrap around costs have increased to cover the shortfall of funding for the 30hours. So I'm paying extra money each month so parents earning upto £100,000 can have free childcare. What a balls up. Well done on making it even harder for me to stay in work and for taking food out of my child's mouth. How does the government plan on rectifying this?

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TooStressyForMyOwnGood · 11/09/2017 17:08

Nicktynoo Flowers. There are so many people losing out from this policy. I've reported one of my posts asking @MNHQ when either Justine or Robert might be back to answer our posts. Not had a reply yet...

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Awwlookatmybabyspider · 11/09/2017 17:14

Is this government actually aware that there are other children in the UK besides 3-4 year olds.
Because with the greatest respect. You can't seem to see before or past that age group

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Nicktynoo · 11/09/2017 18:04

Toostressy
I've spent the majority of this week in tears trying to work out how to manage both a rent increase aswell as the childcare with a drop in wages (was made redundant and accepted a lower paid job as that is what was on offer)
I find all of this so frustrating. The policies always pretend to be looking after 'working parents' but I find most of these policies support people with a good income above those that are already struggling.

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Nicktynoo · 11/09/2017 18:06

TooStressyForMyOwnGood I cannot figure how to reply to you tagged in the post.

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TooStressyForMyOwnGood · 11/09/2017 19:29

Nicktynoo I've seen your post, don't worry. The whole debacle of early years finding is frustrating for parents and providers alike.

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breadwidow · 11/09/2017 20:21

Nicktynoo, I agree. Earning £100k pa is a very high income, support should be better targeted at those who need it.

This govt fails to realise most poor people are working.

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hippyhippyshake · 11/09/2017 20:30

But it's per person. A couple can earn up to 200k and still get their 30 hours! MadConfused

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Nicktynoo · 11/09/2017 21:49

I think we are in agreement this has not been thought through properly and had targeted the support incorrectly.
I also believe they won't come back to answer our questions and I'm almost certain the DM will not be picking this story up.

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FlandersRocks · 12/09/2017 10:10

targeted the support incorrectly

Agree with this.

Ds3 is 4 months old. If there are an additional 15 hours of free childcare available for one year, we would find it MUCH more useful to be able to use that between the ages of 1 and 2, to ease us into the horrifically expensive full-time-care-needed period.

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Tanith · 12/09/2017 15:48

To be fair, the Daily Mail has already run this story, as has almost every media source, at the end of August.

It takes some doing to get the Daily Mail, the Mirror, the Guardian, the Sun, the Financial Times, the BBC etc. all criticising Government policy!

That's why Justiine Greening wrote her piece: I think she was hoping for quite a different response, though Smile

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AnathemaPulsifer · 14/09/2017 07:50

Yes, it should save parents money. If any nurseries survive to offer it, it is likely to be at the cost of the lowest paid: www.cypnow.co.uk/cyp/news/2004182/nursery-staff-require-pay-cut-for-30-hours-childcare-to-be-sustainable

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Hugepeppapigfan · 14/09/2017 08:04

Mumsnet - please tell us the timescale for replies. I assume you have not allowed a guest propaganda post without setting a deadline for their response!

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RowanMumsnet · 19/09/2017 10:48

@Hugepeppapigfan

Mumsnet - please tell us the timescale for replies. I assume you have not allowed a guest propaganda post without setting a deadline for their response!


Hi - really sorry about this; we've chased the Department for Education for responses several times. We'll keep trying (they did promise faithfully they would respond!)
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sleeplessbunny · 19/09/2017 10:58

But it's not FREE childcare at all. Any provider offering these hours is having to make up a funding shortfall themselves. In my area the shortfall is so large that there are no providers offering the additional 15 hours locally - the only hours I can access are the original 15 NEG hours, and only very few providers offer those.

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TooStressyForMyOwnGood · 19/09/2017 11:21

Thanks for getting back to us Rowan. Shame I can't say the same thing about the Department of Education.

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Tanith · 19/09/2017 22:14
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