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Guest post: 'The moment I knew I had to give up drinking'

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 20/11/2014 10:55

On 20 September 2013, I drank my last alcoholic drink. As a nurse who cares for liver disease patients, I had seen the physical impact of booze, but also the psychological and social impacts – I knew I had to stop.

My own drinking started when I was a teenager and had slowly increased over 25 years, from light social drinking to drinking heavily every day. I had become psychologically dependent on booze – all attempts to try to moderate my drinking had failed. I have two young children, and I didn't want them to experience what I did growing up. As a child, I remember finding my parents passed out in the garden in the middle of the day, drunk. I had been terrified for them.

I remember going to a barbecue with friends. They were the perfect hosts and our wine glasses remained topped up all day. By about 7.30pm, I was beginning to feel worse for wear and asked my husband if we could leave. He didn't realise what a state I was close to being in, and said that the kids were still having a ball so we should stay.

I went and passed out on the sofa. Later, we walked home with the children – I was reeling, and remember cannoning off the verges and falling over many times. I even stopped to spend a penny – in front of my kids. I remember crawling up the stairs on my hands and knees and passing out cold.

I had done the very thing I swore to myself I would never do to my own kids.

It wasn't rock bottom, as such – it took me another four months to stop – but it was part of a slow realisation that my self-esteem, and my confidence in my ability to function without booze, had been completely eroded.

Alcohol is a silent public health epidemic, and both my professional and personal lives have shown me just how true this is. It feels like our whole country has an issue with booze. 85% of the population drink, and although the message from the drinks industry is always one of 'responsibility', I've never drunk moderately in my entire life - and neither have most of the people I know.

Most of my family and friends don't acknowledge that my husband and I don't drink any more. We have had some very negative reactions to our sobriety, as if we're snubbing those we socialise with. People seem to take it personally, like it says something about their drinking habits rather being a reflection of a change we wanted to make in our own lives. People will try very hard to get you to have 'just one', as if, if we're all in the same boat - all 'just having a swift half' - then we don't have to think about what it's doing to our health.

Alcohol is ingrained in our society because it is our first response to anything and everything. Birth, wedding, divorce, funeral? Have a drink. Christmas, New Year, birthday? A large one. Good day at work, bad day at home with the kids? Celebrating or commiserating? Open a bottle. It's like we don't know how to connect or express ourselves emotionally without involving alcohol. A few glasses of wine will lubricate that deep-and-meaningful you've been meaning to have with a friend for ages, or get your boss on side in the pub after work, won't it? Alcohol is woven into our everyday lives, and picking up a bottle at the supermarket is as ubiquitous as getting milk and bread. Drinking is so normalised in this country that not to do so marks you out as 'weird'.

There's an old adage that says 'you only have a drink problem if you drink more than your MP or your GP', and with the House of Commons spending £1.4m on alcohol to stock their bars in two years, one has to question how seriously the political class takes this issue. At your GP's surgery, you will be offered an Alcohol Brief Intervention if you drink more than the recommended unit guidelines and will be advised to cut down a bit, but that's about it. It feels like nobody is taking our country's escalating drinking problem seriously.

Things are starting to change, though. There are lots of resources appearing online to support people who want to cut down or stop completely. There are hundreds of sober bloggers just like me, there are online communities like Soberistas, and a new documentary film called - which looks at how alcohol has become such a big part of British culture - is due to premier in London shortly. And maybe, this Alcohol Awareness Week, we should all think about how much we drink, why, and whether we could stop.

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Lucy2610 · 23/11/2014 10:31

eggshells exactly - me too! :)

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amidaiwish · 23/11/2014 11:30

Really interesting. Me and dh drink most nights 5-6 nights a week. A bottle of wine will last a couple of nights so probably 1-2 small glasses a night each, it is rare we finish the bottle and fairly similar at weekends unless we go out for dinner when we'll often have a G&T and then a bottle between us (max once a month).
Anyway he's been away this week and I hadn't drunk at all (not difficult for me) but have had a constant headache and today am pretty spotty. Wondering if my body is detoxing and actually I am drinking way too much. I didn't think we drink too much, eat well, never smoked, exercise regularly etc and seem fairly healthy. Am I kidding myself?

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ladyprimrose · 23/11/2014 11:56

I thought that the original post was an excellent summary of the problems that we can get ourselves into when alcohol dependence becomes an issue, and the difficulties of resolving it in our highly alcogenic society.

I am so glad that there are many online resources available now which are much easier to access than the traditional support groups such as AA, which are not really a feasible option for women with families, who are also often fighting a lack of understanding of the issues involved.

as someone who has been sober for just over a year I really welcome the wider spread of awareness of both the problem and the solutions available. there should be no shame attached to becoming addicted to an addictive substance! there are many people choosing to live without alcohol. doing so should not be seen as an extreme option, but one of a range of choices available in our society.

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dalekanium · 23/11/2014 11:59

So I suppose what I would say to those who are getting pestered by friends to drink alcohol when they don't want to is: find some more interesting friends

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I used to do the typical couple or three big glasses of wine a night. Every night. I was a hard drinking student, back in the day...Then I had a bout of ill health, and a small child and I cut back. Probably drink 0-3 units a week now. And often go a couple of months with no none. I do feel loads better.

I have a few hard drinking mates, last time I went out with then I feigned stomach upset and stuck to fizzy water. I usually opt to drive, or say I have to be up early to drive next morning, and have quietly ditched anyone who makes a childish fuss that I don't drink anymore. For me the trick has been not to make the sweeping statement, but to just quietly choose not to have a drink tonight thanks. And getting better friends.

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Thumbwitch · 23/11/2014 13:52

Interesting post, thanks OP.

That phenomenon you describe where friends and family try to coerce you into "just having one, go on, it's just one, it can't hurt!" is so painfully familiar - not just for drinking, but friends of mine who've tried to give up smoking as well, and found it very difficult when some "friend" of theirs brandishes one under their nose and says "Go on, it's only one!"
I think a lot of it is tall poppy syndrome - the idea that someone who can or wants to give up is trying to better themselves in some way (even if it's just for health or financial reasons) - so the ones who aren't trying to give up want to cut the giver-upper down to size, to fit back in with them.
As well as what you said too about them feeling uncomfortable about their own unwillingness to address their own addiction.

Whitechocolatestars - I used to drink more than I do now. After DS2, when I gave up alcohol completely (I hadn't completely stopped while pg with DS1 - apart from the first 18w - because when I was 18w pg I got married, then went on honeymoon, then my mum died and it was all too much), I didn't really start again for ages. Then it was maybe one wine spritzer with dinner one or 2 nights, then more nights etc. DS2 is now 2 and I'll sometimes have 2 wine spritzers in an evening but not more. I can't be doing with hangovers any more, and I just stop wanting to drink it. In fact, I've been know to leave half a glass standing there overnight! I'm hugely relieved about this, because it makes it much easier to stop completely if I need to.

One advantage I have here is that there is a decent de-alcoholised wine available in the supermarkets, and that makes a good substitute (red, white and fizz).

But on that point: Moniker, in Australia (or at least in NSW where I am), most supermarkets do not sell alcohol, you have to go to the bottle shop. Some are parked right next to the supermarket, so you don't have to go too far; but you can't buy alcohol with your groceries like you can in the UK. This hasn't stopped the drinking culture in Australia being just as bad as in the UK. The public "shame" is just as lost here as it is in the UK; young drinkers are just as bad, nights out in cities have just as much trouble etc. etc. Maybe it's the drinking age limit - it's 18 here, same as the UK - but I know it's mostly 21 in most states of the USA, isn't it? Not all, but most.

DH frequently gives up alcohol for months at a time; he comes from a family where problem drinking is an issue with quite a few of the extended family members, including his own brother, and he has no intention of joining their number. As soon as he gets to the point where he's finishing off a bottle from which I've only had one small glass and he's had the rest, he stops again.

Laly - I've said it before on another thread but Thanks for you - what an awful tragic happening in your life :(. I hope that none of your friends/acquaintance ever ever try to dismiss or diminish your stance on either your own drinking or drink-driving - I'm sure they wouldn't, or they wouldn't still be your friends - and I hope that they listen and learn from your story.

OP - good luck - keep up the good work. Thanks

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JaneAHersey · 23/11/2014 18:31

As Christmas approaches my heart goes out to all the children desperate not to be on the receiving end of drunken 'festivities.' We know that alcohol fuels violence within the home yet this largely remains swept under the carpet but successive irresponsible governments fail to take action.

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ThisFenceIsComfy · 23/11/2014 19:16

I haven't drunk since October 2011. I fell pregnant and stopped immediately.

I was a moderate drinker before, prone to binges but I can honestly say that the thought of a drink now makes me feel a bit ill. I don't miss it at all.

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exWifebeginsat40 · 23/11/2014 19:17

janeahersey thank you - i used to hate Christmas as my parents would start drinking at breakfast. just like any other weekend, really - except at Christmas they would be rowing by lunchtime and out cold by 3.

i have had my share of drunken christmases. my daughter has seen a few of these. i am so glad neither of us need to go through that any more now i'm sober.

and the telly ads! litres of spirits, multiple cases of beer...in the bad old days my xmas fridge meant one full of beer and wine, with bottles of baileys and gin on the side.

i got as low as i could get without actually dying of my addiction (although that was a close call on more than one occasion). i agree that boozing seems woven into the fabric of our society - however, since i came clean about my alcoholism nobody has tried to get me to drink, not even once. i used to find it really hard to stop for a week or so, as some people do seem to find it hilarious that a person wouldn't want a 'proper' drink.

i lost a fair few drinking buddies, including some people i genuinely thought were my friends but who no longer want to socialise with me now i'm sober. life is much, much better now though, regardless.

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glidingpig · 23/11/2014 19:27

For those who are wondering whether a couple every night is too much, maybe it's worth asking whether and why you want to alter your state of mind every single day?

Take me. I actually don't get on terribly well with alcohol - despite being quite a hard-drinking student. I stopped almost completely when pregnant and never started properly again. And now that I am almost always sober, I really notice when I do drink that alcohol doesn't suit me as a drug. But I know that cannabis does. I dearly loved a spliff back in the day, it relaxes me like other people say alcohol relaxes them. (I don't smoke now either, but for reasons other than not wanting to!) If I did smoke it, and if it were legal, would you think I should have a spliff or two every evening and more at the weekend? Or would being lightly stoned for most of my free time make me less present in my life, for my family? Would I miss out on other stuff?

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AndHarry · 23/11/2014 20:36

I haven't had an alcoholic drink in nearly 10 years. I missed it last year when I was having a really tough summer and that made me realise that I made the right decision when I gave it up. Something that annoys me is how alcoholic drinks are offered as freebies while we have to pay for soft drinks e.g. Beefeater: review = free bottle of wine, M&S eat in for £10 offer the non-alcoholic substitutes are impossible to find.

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TheHoneyBadger · 24/11/2014 09:13

violent people fuel violence in the home - not alcohol.

remove the violent person and hey presto no violence no matter what's in the drinks cabinet.

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ThisFenceIsComfy · 24/11/2014 11:32

My father is a violent alcoholic.

When he is sober, I have never known him to be violent. Not once.

If he has a drink then yes he is violent. He is a violent person but only alcohol shows this side of him. It's not so clear cut. Alcohol is a drug.

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Eliza22 · 24/11/2014 11:48

ThisFenceIsComfy, mine too. When he was sober he was an entirely different person. Alcohol made him morose, suspicious, argumentative and violent. He was ill. In the 60's and 70's it wasn't reallt recognised. My sister and I led a double life. No one outside of the home and immediate family knew.

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Greyhound · 24/11/2014 11:59

I went out on Friday night and walked home through my town. I couldn't believe it - everyone on the street seemed to be drunk. Obviously, they had been out that evening but I was sad to see some very young looking teenagers totally plastered.

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ThisFenceIsComfy · 24/11/2014 19:03

Eliza exactly the same here.

I told no one about what he was like. Even now, 13 years after I left home, my family still don't know the extent of it.

I don't really know why I didn't tell anyone.

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ashtrayheart · 24/11/2014 19:39

I'm in that period of contemplating total abstinence at the moment. At one point I was drinking up to a bottle and a half of wine a night and on a night out enough to floor most people I think! In the last week I have had a drink once: Saturday night and it wasn't as much as usual - and i didn't enjoy it. I'm thinking about not drinking at my work Christmas do as well.
I know my friends will slip away from me, all our socialising is based around alcohol. I imagine they will say to each other it's a shame I got a bit boring.
Alcohol is my social lubricant, I'm shy sober. But I think it's got the stage where it needs to be done as I am unable to drink within healthy limits.

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Eliza22 · 24/11/2014 20:03

There's no in-between for me....

I drink when I'm stressed to fuck....and when I'm really happy. At the moment I'm stressed....cheers.

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ThisFenceIsComfy · 24/11/2014 20:32

I'm happier being tee total. I was never good at having just one. I'd rather not have any. It's easier that way.

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Lucy2610 · 25/11/2014 13:05

Thank you to all of the further comments left since Sunday!
Laly I'm so sorry to hear what happened and my words feel inadequate Flowers
Janeahersey exWifebeginsat40 ThisFenceIsComfy Eliza22 same here with my DF, memories of childhood and hiding what went on.
Glidingpig that's a great way of looking at it to get the point across. It is a legal socially acceptable drug, but a drug nonetheless.
AndHarry I'm with you on the booze freebie's too
ladyprimrose thank you :)
I agree ThisFence it's easier to just not drink for me too and for anyone wondering about their drinking why not give it a miss for a bit and see how you go? Brew

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BattlestarSpectacular · 13/05/2015 14:34

Have I gone back in time??
Why is a guest post from November Discussion of the Day?

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Joycomesinthemorning · 13/05/2015 15:02

I had to stop when, I could not get myself out of bed to celebrate my son's birthday

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Miggsie · 13/05/2015 15:14

I used to drink a lot - worked in the media industry.
Gave up when I passed out in front of my entire team.
The photos!
Thank God there was no Facebook back then!!!!!!!!

I did notice at a friend's house the other day she drank an entire bottle of wine without showing any ill effects and I thought - that's not good, to have that level of tolerance for alcohol...

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Lucy2610 · 13/05/2015 16:57

Battlestar maybe because of the OECD report being covered in the papers yesterday? The Daily Wail and Express both ran articles and this was the headline on the Wail: Warning over middle-class women drinkers Educated UK women have worst alcohol problem in West.

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Mrsleighdelamare · 13/05/2015 18:27

My husband gave up alcohol last year for mental health reasons, he was entirely sober for six months, it didn't help his mental health in a massive way. However, it did help us as a family hugely. He does have the occasional drink now, he found being 'teetotal' (as a label), very uncomfortable.

During his sober months he was convinced that a drink would help him feel better but once he had a pint one lunchtime, he FINALLY realised that alcohol wasn't the cure for his depression.

As a result of him drinking a lot in the build up to going sober, I cut back on my drinking as I was aware that I was starting to have a glass of wine every night.

For the last three years I have drunk infrequently, sometimes going two months without a drink. I have discovered that most alcoholic drinks make me feel awful the following day, even three drinks will affect my sleep pattern dramatically and hangovers are just not worth it.

I do have the odd night with the girls, maybe three or four times a year, where we might drink a few too many cocktails or Prosecco but I have to accept that I will feel crap the following day and it really pisses me off! I resent hangovers, they are a waste of a day.

All that said - I really don't enjoy big social things sober, even if I only have two drinks I relax more. So perhaps if I had a good social life I would find myself drinking more?!

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BattlestarSpectacular · 13/05/2015 18:40

Lucy thanks for that...I restarted my browser thinking it was me! Didn't realise that...it's interesting as I was just saying to eh this week that I want to try and have a break because the odd glass of wine is becoming a nightly occurance Blush

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