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Guest post from Nick Clegg: 'The economic rescue is working - but we know families are still feeling the squeeze'

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 25/07/2014 17:56

The official figures are in: Britain’s economy is now larger than it was before the financial crash hit in 2008. There is still a way to go to get us where we need to be, with many British families still feeling the squeeze – but this is good news. It shows the rescue is working.

This is why the Liberal Democrats came into coalition in the first place, to provide the strong and stable government Britain needed to get back on its feet again. Four years on and Britain is going from strength to strength.

According to the latest IMF estimates, the UK will be the fastest growing economy in the G7 in 2014. We have more people in work than ever before, with 2 million more people working in the private sector than in 2010. The deficit is also down by a third: we’re borrowing around £3,000 less per family.

None of this would have been possible without the hard work and sacrifices of millions of families. Across the country, there are countless stories of workers in the private and public sector accepting pay cuts or pay freezes to prevent redundancies, keep businesses afloat and maintain essential public services.

In government, the Liberal Democrats have focused on doing everything we can to help Britain’s families weather this storm. The crucial question that every parent asks when weighing up whether to work or take on extra hours is: how much of my wages will I keep after I've paid for costs like tax, childcare, travel and so on?

To make that decision easier, we've secured a ÂŁ800 tax cut for millions of ordinary people by raising the point at which you pay income tax to ÂŁ10,000 - with a further increase to ÂŁ10,500 next April.

The credibility we've gained by sticking to Britain’s economic plan has helped keep interest rates historically low, saving families money on their mortgage bills.

From this September, every family with young children will benefit from our plan to provide free school meals to pupils in reception classes, year one and year two – ensuring they get a healthy lunch and saving you around £400 for your household budget every year.

Also, if you’re a working parent with children under 12, we’re helping with childcare – from autumn next year, Government will contribute 20% of your childcare costs up to £10,000 a year. This covers parents working full-time and part-time and, for the first time ever, those mums and dads who run their own businesses. This will provide the equivalent of £2,000 per child, per year for every working family, except those on extremely high wages.

We've increased the hours of funded early-education available to every family with a 3 and 4-year-old to 15 hours a week, as well as 2-year-olds from poorer families.

We’re also making it easier for you to organise your childcare support in a way that works best for your family. From April next year, we’re introducing our new shared parental leave arrangements, enabling new parents to carve up the leave they’re entitled to with greater freedom and flexibility. We've already extended the right to request flexible working to everyone, to help boost that army of family members and friends you call on to help with childcare.

I want to help ensure that Britain’s children, whatever their family circumstances or background, get the best possible start in life. So, building on the success of our £2.5 billion Pupil Premium, next year, we’re giving state-funded early years providers an additional £300 to spend on every 3 and 4 year-old from poorer families to support their development further. This is one of the best possible investments we can make in our country’s future.

Together, we’re getting our economy back on track. There’s still a lot to do. But, as Britain moves from rescue to renewal, I'm determined to ensure that every single person has the opportunities and support they need to get on and build the life they want.

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Messygirl · 30/07/2014 10:53

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fanoftheinvisibleman · 30/07/2014 11:13

Couldn't agree more with posters saying government entirely misses the point re childcare. I am another who sees little point in working to pay someone else to raise my child. I had children because I wished to raise them.

I accept that this decision means sacrifices. We will always just scrape by. But being here the majority of the time (I am one of of your villified society draining, no good, lazy, greedy public sector workers who would be double figures off the national wage even if full time) matters more than having a big house, two cars or a foreign holiday. Not all of your electorate is as materialistic as your cronies. People matter more to me than things.

I do not want any part in a society that places accumalating personal wealth higher than ensuring the vunerable in society are taken care of. Immigrants, welfare claimants and public sector workers did not cause an economic meltdown. And quite frankly neither did the Labour government...unless I am seriously underestimating the power and influence that government had to cause a global crisis that reached all corners of the globe. I am sick of seeing the above groups scapegoated. It is actively encouraged by those in power to avoid the finger being pointed at the real roots.

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JustineMumsnet · 30/07/2014 11:46

@MotherSouperior

I'm still perplexed at us being told not to 'be mean' to Nick Clegg and the censoring of posts that were simply calling him out on his abysmal record in power. I'm really, really bemused by MNHQ over this.

Again, MNHQ. Did the LibDems get in touch about this thread or have you self-censored?

I remember watching the Farage webchat, which really was a slow motion car crash. Even he had the odd supporter popping up. He faced criticism far more robust than that handed out here. I can't remember that thread having posts deleted (and I detest NF, so this isn't a defence of his dreadful performance).

There has not been a single positive post on this thread, endorsing his policies

On the contrary, MN (which should be a LibDem heartland, if ever there was one) seems unanimous in our vehement opposition to him ? and the rest of the LD top team. The number of us who keep coming back to this thread ratherthanjustlurkonS&B-- says a great deal. We are furious with the effect that he has had on this country.

To delete us for being 'mean' to a grown man whose supine approval of policies have actually resulted in the deaths of vulnerable people beggars belief.

I don't get it, MN. I really don't. I could understand it if he'd faced a torrent of abuse but the majority of deleted posts took apart his policies and actions. Not the man himself. There's only one (the soiled trouser picture) that I think could fall foul of our guidelines.

Please rethink this or follow Parsing's suggestion about simply deleting the offending words. I really think as a matter of record this thread ought to stand uncensored.

Have the LibDems contacted you about this thread?

ifnotnow and Breaking Buddhist I couldn't endorse your posts more.


Hi MotherSouperior,
To be clear there has been no contact/pressure etc from Libdems about this thread or any posts on it. We deleted posts that were personal attacks or downright rude, as we would for any webchat or guest post (cf Louise Mensch guest post). Maybe we should include something along lines of the webchat guidelines at the top of the guest post threads, as that's effectively the rules which we're operating under?

In a nutshell, though, criticism is fine and healthy but we ask, in general, that folks play the ball, not the man/woman. We totally understand that this is serious stuff and feelings can run very high but in truth we'll never get anyone to engage with Mumsnet if we don't have some sensible parameters with regard to abuse/ civility.
Thanks
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thecageisfull · 30/07/2014 12:01

People were playing the ball. It's not our fault that the ball is inextricably linked with the man.

If you say you have privatised the nhs then that is the ball. You shouldn't privatise the NHS if you don't want to be called out on it.

Plenty of people do engage with mumsnet. Do you mean we'd never get slebs/politicians to engage? It would be preferable if they didn't if the alternative is for them to use MN as a political platform to proselytise and then have any critique of that deleted.

Can I have my post please?

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LineRunner · 30/07/2014 12:59

I agree the ball is the man when he is the Deputy Prime Minister.

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TheFairyCaravan · 30/07/2014 13:06

I think when the man is involved in a Government that has policies that allows this to happen, he has to expect to become the ball and he has to expect meanness.

In one year 10,600 people sick or disabled people died within 6 weeks of being declared fit to work by ATOS.

And you think posters on here are being mean? Angry

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tobeabat · 30/07/2014 13:09

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Baddderz · 30/07/2014 13:43

Justine..are you saying NC has been abused on this thread!!?
Pleas don't bandy that word about.
Plenty of people on mn have actually been abused. I think that was a very poor choice of phrase.
I am sure multi millionaire Mr Clegg doesn't give a rubbery fuck what mnhq, it's members - and indeed the uk population in General - think.
He will find a nice little sinecure somewhere - one of his mates conglomerates maybe?
Whilst the rest of us live with the socio economic results of his cowardice and lies.

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thecageisfull · 30/07/2014 16:08

MNHQ have contacted me with my original post and say they have a problem with the 'personal attacks' towards the end, which I think is when I called him a liar and said he had no integrity. This was obviously very mean of me.

I am reposting with modifications. Lets see how that goes.

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ParsingFlatly · 30/07/2014 16:20

Thanks, thecage & MNHQ.

I thought your post was well worth keeping.

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thecageisfull · 30/07/2014 16:21

My repost with modifications in bold - Read it while you can Wink

After the last election, where I stupidly voted LibDem, I swore I never would again due to the trading of the tuition fees promise for a pat on the head and a 'Deputy Prime Minister' name badge.

Now I have so many reasons.
The bedroom tax, not just because of the misery it has caused but because it epitomises the 'you people' attitude. It's nasty and cruel and patronising. The treatment of the disabled and benefit sanctions, the creation of a 'them' and 'us' and the demonisation of the poor all come under the same umbrella.
Then there is the disaster of the education system that has left my non academic, dyslexic 8yo in a constant state of anxiety about targets as the art and music that she excels in have been gutted out of her school.
Then there is the prison service. I'm not in prison, nor do I work in prison but even I can see that slashing staff numbers by a third and increasing the prison population will lead to disaster. How much is it that the suicide rate has gone up by inside? There was a riot only yesterday at a prison in Notts. More people are going to die so desist with your 'maintaining public services' narrative.
On the same subject, what's with privatising probation services? G4S can make money out of prison, then probation, then prisons again as their probation service accidentally fails. Privatisation of Royal Mail was a real slap in the face too. All the 'hard-working families' aka 'you people' getting shafted so rich city boys like Osbourne's bestie can make a killing.
Employment may have gone up but real jobs haven't. Zero hours contract and apprenticeship after apprenticeship after apprenticeship that leads nowhere and pays nothing don't count.
Women have been shafted beyond belief by the coalition. Do you think we'll forget serial groper Lord Rennard by election time? Do you think we'll forget the cuts to women's services, the cuts to rape crisis and legal aid, the piss poor justice system that allows the men who rape us to carry on with impunity? Do you think sticking an anti-choice, anti equality woman in the cabinet to run women, equality and education is going to appease us. Did you know she is against teaching about sexual consent in schools? Do you care?

Also YOU'VE PRIVATISED THE NHS UNDER OUR FUCKING NOSES, original post had 2 additional words here which would constitute a 'personal attack'

Why aren't we accommodating Syrian refugees?
Why are you calling Israel's annihilation of Gaza 'proportionate'

All this 'we're all in this together' bullshit makes you sound (note-sound like...), not so much like a liar mean affirmation about being a liar , but like a con artist (like, MNHQ, like). There is something of the devil during The Temptation Of Christ about it. I will give you the world, but first bow down and worship vote for me. I don't claim to have as much integrity as Jesus but I'm no sell out, I've missed out the last two words as they compare Nick Clegg to both Jesus, and me in a mean way

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LineRunner · 30/07/2014 16:27

The lib dems despise women, I reckon.

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DoctorTwo · 30/07/2014 18:10

thecage that is spot on.

The thing is, Mr Clagg, your government has done nothing for the majority of people in this country. And now, Mr Clugg, you are going to reap the reward of your duplicity. Your party will be just about wiped out as people sick of your lies will vote for UKIP or Liebour.

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FrontForward · 30/07/2014 19:26

Oooooh thank you for reporting that carefully considered and edited comment thecage. I'm glad to see the detail restored.

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unitarian · 31/07/2014 10:24

Oh well said (both times), thecage.

Isn't it strange that no one has come to defend his actions. Not a soul.

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IfNotNowThenWhen · 31/07/2014 11:09

Perhaps he should asked to have this thread moved to AIBU...?

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MotherSouperior · 31/07/2014 13:13

Justine, thank you very much for confirming that and explaining the rationale behind the deletions.

I do think it is almost impossible to distinguish between the player and the ball in this instance: Clegg himself made pledge after pledge before the election and has reneged on each one - the tuition fees promise being the most egregious example.

I also feel very strongly that Clegg has already made no attempt to 'engage' with us. This wasn't a webchat, it's the online version of a party political broadcast. Where is there any sense of a dialogue? After the European elections, I read that LD wonks were complaining that Clegg 'couldn't even get a hearing' from people. They've obviously decided to insulate him from the public, so we get announcements from on high like this one attempting to pass as 'communication'. It doesn't.

I know we are in the new ear of a fluffy, softer, kittenish AIBU but I honestly didn't think that someone attaching the epithet 'you bastard' to a criticism of his policies counted as being 'mean'. Christ, this man's policies have actually killed people! I think were incredibly restrained in the circumstances. (Especially when you peer into some of the other threads on MN...)

If I'd posted what I really thought of the unprincipled spiv, sorry, someone who I think bears a very strong resemblance to an unprincipled spiv, I'd have a lifetime ban from MN...

Do you mean we'd never get slebs/politicians to engage? It would be preferable if they didn't if the alternative is for them to use MN as a political platform to proselytise and then have any critique of that deleted.

Couldn't agree more.

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MotherSouperior · 31/07/2014 13:21

thecage Thanks so much for posting that again. It's such a clear explanation of why we are so furious with the LDs - not least, as you mention the cuts to WA, legal aid and their apparent tolerance of sexual harrassment.

Ifnot I'm inferior in lots of ways, but no, I'm not another poster (Clearly I'm not original if a few of us have 'taken orders' Blush)

It's very telling that there hasn't been a murmur of support for him or his post. And MN was surely LibDem heartland up til now.

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ParsingFlatly · 31/07/2014 13:46

Oh, I thought you were the Inferior maternal too, MotherS. Oh dear, maybe a namechange if you don't want confusion?

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IfNotNowThenWhen · 31/07/2014 14:23

I quite like the fact that we have a MotherInferior and a Mother Souperior Grin

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MotherSouperior · 31/07/2014 15:24

Good idea, Parsing I might have to put in for canonisation Grin

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ParsingFlatly · 31/07/2014 15:34

I like it, VB-to-be!

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Jux · 01/08/2014 00:00

Thanks for reposting, thecage and MotherS, a.k.a. VB-to-be. It's important to have this stuff written down in the public domain

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thecageisfull · 01/08/2014 14:21

It's very telling that there hasn't been a murmur of support for him or his post. And MN was surely LibDem heartland up til now.

Very telling. Pre election there was a huge amount of support for the LD on here. Even in AIBU when it appears very clear whether the OP is or isn't BU, it's rare to not get one or two people disagreeing with the majority. I think there would've been more support for a Guest Post from Nigel Farage or even Shiney Dave, which is astonishing really. What a difference a few years make or a few days, saying as NC screwed up astonishingly quickly

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thecageisfull · 03/08/2014 00:34

I mentioned the privatisation of probation services and the meltdown in the prison service in my post so I thought I'd link this article from today's Guardian on the subject

www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/aug/02/minister-justice-simon-hughes-banned-visiting-women-community-centres?CMP=twt_fd

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