Doctor says "Do it"; Dentist says "Don't"! What do I do?

[KatyMac]

It's use Corsadyl mouthwash (I have bad ulcers)

So who do I believe & why?

[KatyMac]

I'm just going to take the steroids (& the antibiotics & the antihistamines) and wait & see what happens at my next appointment

The lady I saw was amazing - she said let's get you out of pain and worry about why you get them next time; but she did say don't change my diet anymore

Buttermilk is a no-no I think as I am definitely milk intolerant - but yeast bears looking at

[Timeforabiscuit]

If the bread is homemade, how much yeast are you adding? I had to stop eating home made as I got lovely doses of thrush when I over indulged

[mathanxiety]

My neighbour used to swish a little buttermilk around her mouth a few times a day when she had them and it worked.

Have you been checked for diabetes?

[DrinaDancesInParis]

Ouch! Try this stuff it works wonders on mouth ulcers.

[KatyMac]

Thanks

[KatyMac]

I have steroids, Difflam & she wants to know why I've never been referred before because I've always been told to "get on with it"

& please don't mess with my diet anymore until they have time to look at my blood tests & results

[RawCoconutMacaroon]

I mean, after they have eaten that way for many months/years, the gut may heal, meaning not leaking food proteins into the blood to the same extent, so fewer other food reactions iykwim

[RawCoconutMacaroon]

I know, poor you... Your list is looking pretty restrictive ATM!
Been there, done it and have added some things back in (occasional white rice, occasional baby potatoes) but remain grain free (with the exception of the white rice), as I react strongly to very small amounts of gluten and cross react to processed maize flours too. And yet a few years ago, I was living on the stuff - wheat at every meal (and was really quite unwell in a lot of "minor" ways).

I am about to try egg again, the yolk is a migraine trigger for me but anecdotal evidence from paleo blogs suggest a lot of people stop reacting to other dietary intolerances after they start eating "clean" ie no additives, no grains, no legumes...

I'm hoping that will be the case for me, I'd love to have fried eggs for breakfast!

[KatyMac]

Really

Oh poo - I was hoping just to cut down to spelt

Bread & meat is all I eat atm

[RawCoconutMacaroon]

Like indecisiveandcluless, I was going to mention gluten/wheat too, especially after your comment about the lump under the tongue (can be autoimmune related/metabolic syndrome related.

Re coeliac or wheat allergy, a positive test is positive, but a negative test is not really negative - the biopsy mean that particular bit of the gut is ok, not the whole gut. The blood tests are looking at ranges, so if the number is below a certain cutoff it's "negative", but the disease process could still be there.

I guess that as you have had those tests, you had other symptoms of possible coeliac - if so, I think it would be worth you doing something radical like completely and utterly remove ALL trace of ALL grains from your diet for a few weeks (google paleo challenge or whole30 for ideas and info), just to see what happens when you reintroduce each grain...

[gingeroots]

You can buy liquorice tea bags - Clipper I think - from health food shops .Very yummy .

[gingeroots]

Another vote here for following dentists advice as opposed to doctor .
Remember the G as in general in GP ?

And another who finds zinc and Lysine helpful for mouth ulcers . Though poor KatyMac with that restrictive a diet maybe you are lacking in certain elements ?

Speaking as someone who has currently got oral thrush ...I do wonder if the antiseptic element of Cordosyl really does ,as claimed ,deal with fungal infections ?
Or possibly make them worse ?

Really hope you're better soon .

[KatyMac]

Thanks I've had the blood test & a biopsey bith negative

[indecisiveandclueless]

Mouth ulcers can also point to gluten intolerance, so that might be another thing to watch out for!

[KatyMac]

'woo' is alternative or maybe unconventional - hth

[eatyourveg]

Never heard of non woo - can someone translate please?

[KatyMac]

Good job I am seeing the dentist tomorrow - I now have a small hard lump under my tongue

[48th]

So dh had 20 years plus of awful mouth ulcers and pissed off with his glum ulcer face I made him try random stuff people rated online. l-lysine and vit b although it is the l-lysine that really works have transformed him to entirely ulcer free. If he stops it eventually be gets an ulcer or a crop of them but restarting makes them go in days instead of weeks.

DD gets them too but not with the supplements. We are an entirely non woo family but this works. We know other people it has really worked for too so try it. There was nothing else he hadn't tried.

[KatyMac]

I do & I made the burgers for tea last night too - but I couldn't eat either

Is it worth 2 co-codamol to eat a cinnamon free breakfast? I think I'll wait until lunch.......

[LightsOnNotIn]

you only know what's in the bread if you make it yourself. Or trust the baker knows what's in it. Try Colgate Original for at least 3 weeks - the red tube with no fancy whitening or extra stuff. See if things improve.

I suspect you are not short on cinnamon I doubt that's possible. I have access to peer reviewed journal articles for my job, and I haven't noticed any discussing cinnamon shortage. Oh wait ... you were kidding

[KatyMac]

Well I'm excluding all of those atm anyway

I am off: Milk & dairy, eggs, coconut, almonds, pluses (no baked beans), onions & garlic (no bought sauces), loads of fruit

I can have meat & potatoes & peppers & green spring onions & bread & bananas - no cinnamon in those......maybe my problem is a lack of cinnamon?

[LightsOnNotIn]

ps. sorry for hijacking thread a bit, but I've lived with ulcers for, erm, 20 years, and really want to pass on advice that may help you. Cinnamon does not have to be listed in the ingredients of food or drink, so you have to get hold of the kind of list I got from the specialist. eg you won't find it listed on: red wine, biscuits, tomato sauce, heinz beans, toothpaste...long list...

So if anyone gets ulcers, try avoiding the stuff mrsmorton mentioned.