Little brother with autism trying to deal with passp8rt?

[Frownette]

My brother has autism and unfortunately threw his old passport in the bin.

He tried to avoid me earlier (phone) and I was slightly puzzled then suddenly realised this might be difficult for him.

I could fill in new passport form for him and post off but he needs to get photo booth done and get them signed.

I'm not sure whether to write out the form myself and post it to him or gently guide him through doing it?

[Frownette]

So in absence of any constructive advice:

A) I have to phone post office nearest my brother
B) find out if they can do photos in house or who can and where
C) line up a signatory
D) travel there and make sure this is done
E) check the forms

You made a horrific mistake @ElizabethMainwaring not reading properly and thinking I was asking about myself.

You may put off people posting on this forum.

To make it clear: my BROTHER with AUTISM cannot manage to do his passport by himself. I was so hoping he could.

Anyone I mentioned it to today just started creasing up that you lacked the comprehension skills.

Have you got anything against people with autism or a disability?

[Frownette]

@ElizabethMainwaring you got the wrong end of the stick...estate agents made a mistake and I was exhausted trying to think what else they needed. It's all done and I've moved in.

The last thing I would do is throw my passport away. I have mine, and it's valid until 2029.

My brother because of his autism thought his didn't work anymore as it had expired and threw his away. This makes it more complicated to get him a replacement.

I only read this this morning as I couldn't sleep and started thinking about his passport problem and felt incredulous at the level of bullying. I mentioned it to a couple of people IRL and they just started laughing and said you were probably a hairy trucker in his underpants scratching his balls.

You deliberately did a search on me and followed me here to derail the thread.

You're referencing a deleted thread and I have a specialist domestic violence agency to deal with my mother.

So then, since you are an expert, and my brother is frightened to go out without me, how do I persuade him to get his new passport photos done and signed without me travelling a few hours to him?

Original point of the thread.

[ElizabethMainwaring]

Hello Frownette
I have no idea why you pressured MN to delete my post.
I was simply commenting on your previous posts where you clearly stated that you were unable to complete paper work.
A particular hazard seemed to be your mother throwing knives at you.
A great number of people tried to help you.
You refused their help every step of the way.
You have also sent me a pm accusing me of bullying you.
I am far from being a bully. I just want other people to not waste time trying to help you.
I also think that you were the person who threw your passport away.
I sincerely hope that you get help if indeed you need it.

[Frownette]

I've tried to make him see how beautiful it is and show him things but he doesn't like it still.

So just need to get his photo id sorted. He binned his drivers license as well. He's a brilliant driver. Doesn't want to reapply for drivers licence, wants passport. So I'll wait til he's awake and then phone my friend and try to get this done today.

[Frownette]

@eurochick

I was also wondering why this is a priority right now. There is very little travel going on.

If you are determined to do it, there are guidelines for the photo (background colour, shadows, etc).

It's just that he wants to move so will need photo id.

He's got a beautiful place but if he doesn't want it he doesn't want it.

[dementedpixie]

Yes it will need someone to confirm their identity if it is a replacement of a lost passport. This can also be done online if it is an online application

[ineedaholidaynow]

Does the photo/application need a counter signatory?

[eurochick]

I was also wondering why this is a priority right now. There is very little travel going on.

If you are determined to do it, there are guidelines for the photo (background colour, shadows, etc).

[Frownette]

@RedCatBlueCat

The form is MUCH simpler online, if you can persuade him to do it that way. It only shows you the questions you need, rather than the paper version where "if you answered yes, go to question 21c, if you answered no, go to page 17, the fill in question 24d" sort of stuff that gets me confused.

Photos can be taken electronically - but probably needs another person. Does he live alone?

Good luck!

You've got me think about that now - I have a friend who lives near him? If I phoned him today and asked to take as clear head shot as possible that would suffice?

Then it would be easier I could just fill in online form and get it off.

Bloody passports.

[123rd]

Does he need a passport right now? Sounds like you have a lot on your plate so maybe this could wait a few months?

[Frownette]

Yes he lives alone - actually I could sneak online and do the form but then the photos might be needed and I don't fancy ending up in court vs Home Office

[RedCatBlueCat]

The form is MUCH simpler online, if you can persuade him to do it that way. It only shows you the questions you need, rather than the paper version where "if you answered yes, go to question 21c, if you answered no, go to page 17, the fill in question 24d" sort of stuff that gets me confused.

Photos can be taken electronically - but probably needs another person. Does he live alone?

Good luck!

[Frownette]

Passport definitely out of date. He just thought it was like a broken computer and put it in the bin not realising it might be needed.

Ok well I'll phone him later, he won't be up yet

[Frownette]

Oh god I've got enough going on here as I'm moving Monday and fantastic job has come up!

But he has chosen to do passport application by paperwork so I'll get him started today. He's not unintelligent but not used to foreign objects. So takes a bit of coaxing.

Although I have to admit i sort of feel like doing the form myself and shoving him into.a photo booth and phoning someone near him to get photos signed. I'm only a sibling.

[dementedpixie]

Could you go to his house and guide him through the online application?

[Frownette]

@PotteringAlong

No, it doesn’t matter if the passport is in the bin. If it’s in date then the passport office will have an electronic copy on their system. That’s what *@Pinkywoo* was saying.

There’s a section on the form for lost and stolen passports. You can do it online. I would look and, if you don’t need a new photo then just do it for him. And maybe keep hold of it so it doesn’t go in the bin again!

It wasn't in date. Think he just thought it didn't work anymore and put it in the bin.

I'll try to slowly get him through this but may have to take it a bit slowly. I may have to resist the urge to go off and grab a passport form and do it myself but think it needs to come from him.

He needs photo id in approx 2 months time

[crankysaurus]

There are guidelines on the passport website about how to take a photo yourself if he'd be okay with that rather than a photo booth. I ended up taking a load of DH against the blank kitchen wall, trying not to get shadows etc was the trickiest bit.

As others have said, might be worth checking ahead though and seeing if the passport office still have a photo on file they can use.

[dementedpixie]

all new and replacement passports need a new photo BTW. Maybe PP is thinking of replacing a driving licence as that uses the existing photo from your passport

[dementedpixie]

www.gov.uk/report-a-lost-or-stolen-passport
cancel the lost passport

www.gov.uk/renew-adult-passport/replace
replace passport

He will need someone to confirm his identity too

[dementedpixie]

yes you will need a new photo. The application can be done online using a photo taken on a phone though. Im sure I've read this scenario before

[PotteringAlong]

No, it doesn’t matter if the passport is in the bin. If it’s in date then the passport office will have an electronic copy on their system. That’s what @Pinkywoo was saying.

There’s a section on the form for lost and stolen passports. You can do it online. I would look and, if you don’t need a new photo then just do it for him. And maybe keep hold of it so it doesn’t go in the bin again!

[Frownette]

@Pinkywoo

If he already had a passport then he shouldn't have to send a new photo (as long as his appearance hasn't changed dramatically), it should be on their system.

Oh that's one of the problems, he's put his old passport in the bin. So I'm trying to think about best way to guide him on the phone. So just fill in page one, put it aside. Then open up next page and I'll give him all the details he needs for parents.

I'm surrounded by passports at the moment.

Thank you very much @Pinkywoo you understood what I was asking.

And someone came over to deliberately bully.

But I'll talk to him today and try to familiarise him with the form. Things can be quite frightening for people with autism.

[Pinkywoo]

If he already had a passport then he shouldn't have to send a new photo (as long as his appearance hasn't changed dramatically), it should be on their system.

[Frownette]

Have you ever come onto MH boards before or just hunting me down?

It was a gentle question about how best to assist with passport. And yes I have all my own paperwork done, estate agents admitted they made a mistake which confused me.

So what have you done, and why are you following around hassling me?