This is so fucking shit for young people

[ssd]

Yeah i know its shit for everyone before you pounce on me

But imagine being around 20 just now...no pubs, no nightclubs, no jobs around, no buzz in your town centre, no excuse to dress up in something new, or planning your latest night out, meeting your pals and all the excitement of the night ahead.

Its just so fucking shite.

I got the train home tonight from work, Glasgow city centre is a ghost town. Places that were always busy boarded up, of course everything except like of newsagents and tesco's shut. Its Friday night. It was always jumping when i was young, absolutely jumping. It was dead. On the train was a bunch if young boys, playing music a bit too loud, all singing along....going home from the city centre at 6pm!!!!. I could have cried watching them all, a nice sunny evening and the only place they are heading was back to mum and dads, or a local park maybe, i dont know. They were about 18, casual dressed, haircuts, all wanting a good time with their pals and probably hoping to meet a partner if they were single.

Where is the life for these kids???

This has gone on long enough. I dont care if i never see inside a pub again. I've had a brilliant social life at that age. Now they have fuck all.

Its too much.

[tillyandmilly]

Not just young that are suffering ...... they will get their life back - may take 6 months-12 months but at least this won't go on forever - i am sure they will make up for lost time!

[Babyroobs]

Sorry I should have also mentioned my 21yr old son who is at Uni ( sports related). He has missed out on so many opportunities, he was doing voluntary football commentating for a couple of teams and for sight impaired people at a premier league club, and of course that has all dried up. I doubt there will be many job opportunities, it's him I feel the worse for at the moment as he was so passionate about his course but has been denied so many opportunities and social life.

[marshyindigo]

Christ some of these posts demonstrate the emotional intelligence of a toddler.

[Helpmyhair2019]

@tillyandmilly

Not just young that are suffering ...... they will get their life back - may take 6 months-12 months but at least this won't go on forever - i am sure they will make up for lost time!

Hopefully - but there are things young people will never be able to make up for. Exams, school leaving, friendships, freedom. Those are not things you tend to be able to make up for in your 30’s and 40’s. Everyone should have that time in their lives to discover themselves when they don’t have responsibilities

[RJnomore1]

My 16 yo has not had a normal life. She’s had two years of education fucked up snd her blossoming social independence nipped in the bud. As have her friends and they’ve all pretty much done everything asked of them with no moaning.

I’m not for a second suggesting this has been great for older people. My heart breaks particularly for those in care homes away from loved ones. But this has been for what we are told is their benefit abd it’s the kids as I am said earlier who have to shoulder the fall out for decades.

[pumpkinpie01]

@tillyandmilly for the ones at uni it really is time they won't get back , supposed to be the best years of your life . My dd daren't go to another friends house there is such a heavy police presence in the student area where she lives

[savethegrannies]

I am 50s. I have been sitting pretty in covid, financially.at least. I've also not been badly affected socially as I don't go out much anyway lol. But my god I feel bad for younger people in their 20s. I used to live for clubbing on a weekend. I would have been forlorn at how the past year has been, having to stay in. I also refuse to accept that the young couldn't have been allowed to go out and get on with things and lived their lives. Indeed why can't they now? There is no justifying this continued fucking bullshit infringement on their civil liberties, there really isn't.
I am personally immuno compromised but I don't want the young sat hiding indoors to protect me. I don't feel in anyway they owre me that. Let them live their lives and let the rest of us take our chances.
It ain't fair 😔

[SweetPetrichor]

Those ‘poor’ youngsters missing the lively town centre are getting into our stairwell, drinking, smoking, pissing and generally being a pain in the arse. And it’s bloody girls who are meaner than any male nuisance. They threaten the residents with violence if asked to move on. It’s a complete waste of police time but that’s all that will make them move. So funnily enough, I’m not feeling too sympathetic for the youths.

[Nats1984]

My 19 year old left college as it wasn’t making her happy. Took a job in hospitality and is now a hotel manager and on a wonderful salary, car bought for cash and almost a deposit to buy a flat ( we are SE) I think she’s one of a few who’ve actually benefitted from this mess as she took all those shifts when others couldn’t / wouldn’t work and has got promoted a few times. My self employed mother has become mentally quite unwell since closing her business down as it was very customer facing and she’s ECV and is panicking about finances but I have little sympathy as she’s in a 7 bed , 4 reception room house on her own which is almost completely paid off. Meanwhile, in order for my kids to have a room each I sleep in my living room and should have completed the move to my dream home in November but it’s now April and it’s just getting finalised. Currently a full time student for the second time round and haven’t even been on campus not seen it in the flesh even , not bothered though as I don’t like people and studying from home suits me. Business consultant father has adapted well and not lost anything as far as I can tell. Youngest has been much happier since being at school with his friends because I’m incredibly dull. Interesting to compare I think how different people are affected.

[Youhavetoquitwhileyoureahead]

"Despite the generally high approval for current measures, I think, once the costs really start rolling in, most people won't forgive the government."

No sign of that at the moment though - 14 points ahead! As pp say, things may change, but it's hard to predict.

I don't agree that it's been bad for everyone equally (I realise nobody has quite said that!) - from a personal pov I haven't really missed much at all. But the disadvantages/costs for some other groups (not just the young by any means but certainly that is one significantly affected group) have been huge. We are not in the same boat at all, I think.

[Slipperfairy]

I've lost, what, a year of social events? I'm in my 40s, so I've had plenty. I got to work from home at times, which saved time and money. Lockdown 1 was sunny weather and family walks. It was different and frustrating, but I've had worse periods in life.

Ds was just starting to go out and, terrifying as it was, it was him beginning to grow up. He's having a shit end to primary. But doesn't seem behind- unless possibly measured against an arbitrary standard. My niece is yr10. She also, isn't behind, although some more content needs covering.

A year is about a 42nd of my life. A year is an 11th of ds' life. He's not that bothered though, because he only has a vague idea about what should be happening at his age. I feel it more for him.

[savethegrannies]

Problem is a lot of young simply ain't politically aware. Or not enough of them anyway. Why aren't they on the streets protesting this bullshit?

[Lemons1571]

It’s definitely more shit for 16-25 year olds (approximate age banding) than it is for me and DH (46). We haven’t missed any life experiences that we can’t rebook.

I think students paying tens of thousands of pounds to study online in their childhood bedrooms is horrific. I really hate how online is “sold” as a perfectly equal alternative to real life teaching. How the hell kids they manage when they don’t understand topics / teaching? Degrees and even A levels are hard hard hard. Yet here they are, supposed to basically be grateful they’re alive, shut up and get on with it.

[osbertthesyrianhamster]

I agree!

[goldhoops]

I 100% agree it's really really depressing to see the loss of people's livelihoods. My toddler has missed out on so much throughout the past year. When I was my toddlers age my mum said, we didn't have many activities etc but what we did have was seeing people, visiting friends and families. People have lost their jobs, their businesses, their mental health. It breaks my heart seeing the local town centre like a ghost town. 15 years ago at this day and time I was out probably queuing to get into a nightclub when I was uni all dressed up nice and having the best time of my life. I feel for everyone who is affected by this.

[MargosKaftan]

@mustlovegin - but why not? I get if you or someone you care about was one of the people the sacrifice was for, then its uncomfortable to say that the young have given up life experiences they'll never get chance to have again to give more time to those later in their lives - but its true.

If the international hospitalisation and death rate from covid was that for all age groups as it was for the under 25s, it would be called a bad virus and you wouldn't even know the name of it.

And please don't try to play the card of "but if the NHS was overrun they couldn't help you!" When most people in their late teens / early 20s go months, if not years between needing NHS treatment.

[tuttifuckinfruity]

I agree it's awful. I feel awful for young people right now.

.....but, we are coming out of it now though? We've been through the worst. The vaccine is working and the world is coming to life again.

So many have died, which is heartbreaking, but for the ones left, there will be these experiences again.

[ArseInTheCoOpWindow]

My grandma spent ages 19-25 working nights in a munitions factory in the middle of nowhere. So her entire young adulthood. She was Ok. Shit happens unfortunately.

It’s not about sacrificing the young to save the old, it’s about stopping the NHS from being overwhelmed.

[savethegrannies]

My god SweetPetricho you really don't like young people do you?

[tuttifuckinfruity]

@ssd

It was seeing the young boys/men on the Train that did it for me. They were like mine. They were playing 'yes sir, i can boogie' and singing along. Its a song the Scotland team sang recently when we actually won!!! They shouldn't be singing it on the train home at 6pm, they should be in pubs,clubs, getting a lumber at closing time and a sore head tomorrow.

This feels unnatural at 54, imagine being fucking 21.
Im so upset for them

That does sound so sad. Those poor boys.

[memberofthewedding]

I can assure the posters here that it was not a "breeze" for the elderly who were young adults in the 1950s and early 1960s. There was NEVER any question of my going to uni at 18 or even of staying on at school to do A levels. I was made to leave school at just turned 16 to get a job and contribute to the family budget. To my parents I was just a bloody cash machine. Press a button once a week and out comes money. Even when I had the opportunity of studying full time to improve my professional qualifications my parents put the veto in. I had to do it myself part time. It taught me something very valuable.

Its called "Deferment of Gratification"

If you really want something enough you will go out and work, fight and hustle for it.

This didnt just happen to me. Many working class young people never got the chance to go to uni. It wasnt until the late 1960s that Uni began to really open up to working class kids.

I went when I was older - in my 40s no less. At that age I really did appreciate the opportunity. But it was one I made for myself and was not handed to me on a plate by indulgent parents.

[waitingforthenextseason]

@Tealightsandd

It's massively shit, but it's even more shit for elderly. At least the young will have a chance to make up for lost time.

No it's not more shit for the elderly.

And not only that, many older people are now thumbing their noses at the rules and going out and meeting up in groups in homes etc because they've been vaccinated. While young people STILL have to give up most of their lives (university experiences, jobs, going out, meeting people, dating, travelling, etc) so protect older people.

IT's shit. I really feel for young people.

[Youhavetoquitwhileyoureahead]

"Problem is a lot of young simply ain't politically aware."

I think that many are, but they perhaps have different priorities - climate change, maybe? It will be interesting to see how this episode (let's hope it is a limited episode!) is regarded in 5-10 years time. Though I suspect it will be seen in much the same way as it is now!

[savethegrannies]

But at least they didn't have to fight in the way etc etc 🤣🤣