Christmas needs to be cancelled.

[AlternativePerspective]

So the suggestion to make it possible for the world to go and be super spreaders at Christmas is to stay in lockdown until Christmas, then open up for five days, then go back into lockdown for another 25 days (at least), five days for every day we’re out of lockdown.

Are people really that desperate to have a get together they could have at any other time of the year, maybe in the summer when this pandemic is under control, that they’re willing to spend months in lockdown to achieve it? Really?

My personal opinion is that it is our duty as a society to have a low key Christmas regardless of whether they take this ridiculous measure or not.

I understand that for some they want to see family at Christmas, but these ridiculous suggestions have gone too far.

Just cancel Christmas and give us an extra bank holiday next year to make up for it.

[upsidedownwavylegs]

@whiskybysidedoor

Whether it’s cancelled or not is irrelevant to me. I will be seeing my family whatever happens!

You might want to keep that quiet. If one my kids didn’t get medical treatment because the hospital was stuffed full of those who did what they liked at Xmas I’d say all bets were off and I’d be coming for you.

[Caroncarona]

I’d say all bets were off and I’d be coming for you.

How would you be doing that then? I'm intrigued to know.

[FedUpOfAllThis]

Yes, I am that desperate for a get together and I would have seen my family anyway even if Boris said no meeting up. This year has been utter shit and I’m not willing to life like this anymore so I will see my family and we will all take our chances.

[Bookworming]

Not looking like it's going to be "cancelled", looks as if we are going to have some loosening of restrictions!

[Ethelfleda]

YABVU

[User158340]

@whiskybysidedoor

Whether it’s cancelled or not is irrelevant to me. I will be seeing my family whatever happens!

You might want to keep that quiet. If one my kids didn’t get medical treatment because the hospital was stuffed full of those who did what they liked at Xmas I’d say all bets were off and I’d be coming for you.

These types don't give a shit i'm afraid.

[the80sweregreat]

I normally don't bother with many decs or a tree, but this year I have.
Not sure why as I'm not even keen on Christmas really. Just a feeling of wanting a bit of light amongst the gloom I think and the radio are playing the Christmas songs early too this year. People need a bit of cheer!

[Burnthurst187]

I went on a walk last night and saw a lot of houses with decorations up already. I think ppl see Christmas as the only highlight in what has been a shit year

I agree with a lot of what op has said but regardless of what the gov decide to say, ppl will make Christmas the highlight of their year

[Neron]

You might want to keep that quiet. If one my kids didn’t get medical treatment because the hospital was stuffed full of those who did what they liked at Xmas I’d say all bets were off and I’d be coming for you

Comment of the thread 😂

[Bookworming]

You might want to keep that quiet. If one my kids didn’t get medical treatment because the hospital was stuffed full of those who did what they liked at Xmas I’d say all bets were off and I’d be coming for you.

Good luck with that, but I'd keep quiet about that! Vigilantes are not popular.

[whiskybysidedoor]

Whether it’s cancelled or not is irrelevant to me. I will be seeing my family whatever happens!

You might want to keep that quiet. If one my kids didn’t get medical treatment because the hospital was stuffed full of those who did what they liked at Xmas I’d say all bets were off and I’d be coming for you.

[SchrodingersImmigrant]

@NotAKaren I was joking, but yeah. It does make you do little "wait. Nahh. They wouldn't. Right?"😁

[Lweji]

I will be seeing my family whatever happens!

I'll be seeing my family too.
I just won't be having them all around a table for a meal. Or all together in the same room at the same time.

We can all be together over a few days, as safely as possible.

It's multiple households spending entire days together, with no masks and no distancing, particularly over meals, in a poor ventilated place, that is the main problem. And that will have consequences in the following weeks, for the health services and for the economy, and for people's mental health.
And that may mean we'll have to spend more time apart from our relatives.

[NotAKaren]

@SchrodingersImmigrant

Maybe it will be on purpose. Let everyone have Christmas so then they can lock us all up in January again and blame food shortages on people panic shopping before lockdown.
It's allllllll plaaned out, I tell ya!

I have wondered if this is all planned to force a lockdown in January when borders and logistics will be a total chaos due to Brexit. Also people's excitement at being released to some sort of normality, coupled with Christmas madness means that they will not be focused on the absolute sh** show that is coming down the tracks.

[GetOffYourHighHorse]

'Why should we have missed out on so much if it is ok to forget it all for five days?'

It isn’t ok but people will do it anyway. They should say 'mix households if you refuse not to but do it knowing Jan will see a sharp increase in hospital admissions with increased deaths 2 weeks later. Is it worth it?'.

Missed birthday celebrations aren't anything to flap about but if your father is frail and alone that is of course a worry but you can bubble with him anyway so surely no different to prepandemic?

[userxx]

@Chaotic45 You've left your dad alone? Why?

[Chaotic45]

I'm astounded that the government are reportedly leaning towards relaxing the rules for a five day period over Christmas and somehow making up for this with a tighter lockdown before and after Christmas.

Are the rules necessary or not? If they are necessary why can they be relaxed?

Since March due to the rules my family have:
Cancelled a wedding,
Had an awful tiny socially distanced funeral
Closed my business for a period as I can't work from home, and can't claim any help.
Celebrated birthdays alone
Left my father who lives in central leicester largely alone, lonely and increasingly fraiL
Cancelled UL trips
Not seen friends and family for celebrations and who need support and friendship,

Why should we have missed out on so much if it is ok to forget it all for five days?

I've followed the rules but if they can be relaxed for Christmas then I feel like saying 'fuck you Boris' I'll do what suits me from now on.

[WhentheDealGoesDown]

[quote WinnieHarlow]@Hardbackwriter you post screams of someone putting their personal risk and circumstances first. I am going shout this from my (socially distanced rooftop) - “THIS IS NOT ABOUT PERSONAL CIRCUMSTANCES - ITS ABOUT REDUCING THE SPREAD OF INFECTION” - for EVERYONE, for the good of our wider community, NHS, key workers etc etc[/quote]
I guessing your personal circumstances are quite good then

[Dongdingdong]

Whether it’s cancelled or not is irrelevant to me. I will be seeing my family whatever happens!

[SchrodingersImmigrant]

Maybe it will be on purpose. Let everyone have Christmas so then they can lock us all up in January again and blame food shortages on people panic shopping before lockdown.
It's allllllll plaaned out, I tell ya!

[Sedona123]

@GetOffYourHighHorse

Oh fgs I've just heard on the news they may announce that a few households can 'bubble' for 7days then that's it. I hope they don't say that, people seem to hear 'bubble' and think its a magic wand that keeps everyone safe.

What they should say is households shouldn't mix (barring terminally ill and people who live alone), the risk is very high but there will be no penalties etc for people doing what they like, they clearly will anyway but be it on their own heads.

I agree (second paragraph!)

I can't see how this is going to work with schools finishing so close to Christmas, then going back early in January too. Schools would have to finish two weeks before, and go back two weeks after the week ended in order to massively reduce the resulting spread of covid. It's just not worth it, especially when there's vaccines ready for the new year.

[AlphaJura]

But having said that, if I lived in a high risk area, I wouldn't feel comfortable knowing I'd hosted or attended a 'super spreader' event. I'd rather family members live to see more Christmas's. Especially because of the time of year and that everyone will be congregating inside 😔.

[AlphaJura]

I'm not really up for it, I'd prefer to keep things more limited and hopefully not have stricter restrictions into the new year, but I do understand that people won't stick to the guidelines anyway. It's easy for me to say because I don't live on my own, so our actual Christmas Day will be exactly the same as any other year. Must be different for people who live alone or far away from close family.

[Flaxmeadow]

It's all mights and maybes. A "source" said this or that.
I would have thought nothing is certain until Govt have data closer to the time

[GetOffYourHighHorse]

Oh fgs I've just heard on the news they may announce that a few households can 'bubble' for 7days then that's it. I hope they don't say that, people seem to hear 'bubble' and think its a magic wand that keeps everyone safe.

What they should say is households shouldn't mix (barring terminally ill and people who live alone), the risk is very high but there will be no penalties etc for people doing what they like, they clearly will anyway but be it on their own heads.