If Teachers are worried about going back to school, employ me as a teacher

[DappledGreenLeaves]

I do understand that Teachers don't want to go back to school, these are worrying times, however our children deserve an education.

I realise teaching is very difficult

I'm not trained as a teacher

I do have a degree, and have worked in business and other fields

I'll train as a fast track temporary teacher, and teachers don't need to go back.

Employ a new batch of "Fast Track Teachers" and get children back into schools

[TorysSuckRevokeArticle50]

For the millionth time, let's try to explain this in a way that people would understand.

I will use an example for ease of understanding:

• School has 30 children per year
  
• Reception to year 6 so 7 years
  
• Total of 210 students.
  
• They have 1 classroom per year, 1 teacher and 1 TA. Total of 7 teachers, 7 classrooms and 7 TAs.
  
• The government have advised that desks should be 2 metres apart, so they can only fit 10 students in each room.
  
• They now need 3 classrooms and 3 teachers per year.
  
• They need a total of 21 classrooms and 21 staff members (ideally teachers but govt have said a TA will do as long as they are overseen by a qualified teacher)
  
• They are short 14 rooms and 7 'staff members' (assuming no one is on shielding list or ill)
  
  Using your degree and years of experience in industry where does the school get the 14 extra rooms and 7 extra staff members?
  
  In this example, no child has needed 1:1 support and we haven't even begun to think about how the will schedule for every one of the 21 groups to use the 2 playgrounds and 1 lunch hall without mixing the groups.

[HalfTermHalfTerm]

I think that is honestly the most ridiculous opening post I’ve ever seen on here. You say that you know teaching is difficult, then you say that we should just fast track people in!

People with life experience make excellent teachers and training schemes like teach first have proven how quickly people can be trained up to teach.

No, excellent teachers make excellent teachers. Life experience can be useful, but there are plenty of second (third, fourth) career teachers who are not very good and plenty of 22 year old NQTs who are brilliant. Teach First is morally dubious, and certainly not a ‘fast track’ into being a qualified teacher. Most teachers I know don’t rate it very highly, including one HoD I know who trained through Teach First.

[Nillynally]

You take my teaching position OP and I'll go off and become a fast track nurse, quite fancy doing that, can't be that hard surely? Probably only take a week as I'm quite clever. Got to be better than nothing right?

[MurrayTheDemonicTalkingSkull]

@Napqueen1234 - secondary teachers aren't going to get visors or perspex screens. I cannot imagine teaching from behind a perspex screen would be at all effective anyway, for all but the most attentive senior classes. I know that with my bottom set S4 class (Year 11, I think?) I have to use my (non-threatening!) physical presence to keep things under control. Just standing next to pupils has so much power - I'm really dreading going back not having this tool in my arsenal.

[ChubbyPigeon]

While were at it, certain routine medical care isnt happening at the moment. Why dont we employ furloughed workers to do that to?

A quick 5 week course and youll be doing my extractions in no time!

[Emmapeeler1]

Why would they be better off learning about derivatives and interest rates at school than doing an online classroom with their actual teacher in an actual subject they are doing, at home?

And why would said banker not be WFH/banking?

2m social distancing at my old secondary school would be nearly impossible because of narrow corridors, regardless of classroom size. Let alone there being an extra room available to sit in.

[FloggingMoll]

I see OP hasn't been back since starting this goady load of toss.

I trained in FE, have three degrees and my PGCE covered sociology, psychology and digital learning. Teaching isn't just standing in front of a classroom pretending to be Robin Williams.

[ktp100]

The decision for schools to not open in some areas has been made by either local authorities (eg Liverpool) or individual heads - NOT teachers!! They don't have the choice!!

They have worked all the way through lockdown, teaching keyworker kids IN SCHOOL as well as managing pupils at home. All of the primaries in our area are now open to 3 year groups with more year groups invited in 2 days a week from next week.

You don't get to blame teachers for everything!!

[hippospot]

I'm not a teacher either but I have offered to help out at my child's school as a volunteer. Perhaps some parents could help in a TA capacity or even playground supervision (DBS clearance needed of course). I'm definitely not capable of teaching and nor do I want to teach children but if willing adults could somehow assist the teaching staff then maybe it would be a good stopgap?

Hell I would happily assist with disinfecting the building at this stage. I'm desperate to get my children back to education.

[ChubbyPigeon]

@Nillynally unfortunately as you are a teacher you dont have a business background

You normally require a business background to succeed in these schemes. Nursings already got enough public sector workers!

[LastTrainEast]

"DappledGreenLeaves" given that you completely failed to understand why kids are not back in school and managed to blame the wrong people you failed the job interview.

[TeaStory]

There is a massive difference between knowing the details of a subject or career and being able to impart that knowledge the children and teens.

Pedagogy is a serious skill to master.

As for walking in, standing at the front talking, then going away again... I have no words. Good god.

[TeaStory]

*to, not the

[LaurieFairyCake]

TEACHERS ARE NOT CHOOSING TO WORK FROM HOME

DH fucking hates it.

[LaurieFairyCake]

Average teacher stays LESS than 8 years

Is that because it's such a lovely job where the public are so supportive, it's well paid and they're home for a snooze by 4?

No.

[nellodee]

Please come and join us at our school. We are massively understaffed and quite honestly, if you have a pulse we will probably employ you. In fact, can everyone who thinks they can do a better job please come along and have a go. We'll take absolutely anyone we can lay our hands on, providing you pass a police check.

God knows why we are so desperate, it's a very easy job with excellent pay and long holidays.

Only one of these two paragraphs is being sarcastic.

[Boxachocs]

Oh this is actually funny! As if a few weeks of ‘fast training’ will be fine. It’s not the teachers who are keeping schools closed to some year groups, it’s the current pandemic. Whenever the government decide to open fully, the teachers will be there, doing our job. I really feel some of these posters blaming teachers might be a little bit simple.

[RedToothBrush]

Employ a new batch of "Fast Track Teachers" and get children back into schools

And you'll do it for free, cos there is no budget for extra staff with many school struggling to buy books and pencils?

Great!

Now what experience do you have in crowd control of 15 teenagers who can't be arsed?

And whats your safeguarding experience?

And can you do it in the back corner of the school yard in the pouring rain too please?

Fab.

Schools can sign you and thousands like you, in minutes. Problem solved. If only schools had had your wisdom and guidance sooner.

You really don't respect teachers do you?

[catsandlavender]

It’s like people think all teachers do is come in, stand in front of the class, and tell the kids stuff they know about. Jesus.

[HipTightOnions]

to walk into a room stand at the front and walk out the risk would be tiny

Yeah, because that’s exactly what a teacher does...

[ChubbyPigeon]

Its not even just the ability to impart the knowledge

Its the ability to control a class of children, discipline where necessary. The ability to workout which children are struggling, why and how to help them. Safegaurding. The pastoral side. Even just communicating and connecting with children of different ages

Teaching is so much more than just telling a group of people what you know. It takes years of experience to make a good teacher.

[SE13Mummy]

I'm a teacher. In a primary PRU. We're fully open again. Our pupils would eat you alive.
DH is a secondary teacher. His school will be open for Y10 and Y12 from Monday, as instructed by the government i.e. no more than 25% of the year group present at any one time.

It's not a case of teachers not wanting to go back. It's a case of being limited by the government instructions. Good luck with your teacher training application.

[NeurotrashWarrior]

Op, contact some supply agencies. You may very well get some work.

[NeurotrashWarrior]

(You'd get employed as a TA via supply.)

[NeurotrashWarrior]

Please do it!!