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Can Dominic Cummings wife drive?

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Japanese987 · 25/05/2020 17:46

Does anyone know? Presumably the media know she cant or it would have been asked why he needed to drive her to the hospital with their son when he had covid and had blurry eyes? Also she could have driven them back to London and not needed a trip to Barnard Castle to test his eyes?

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NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 25/05/2020 23:31

"What about the fact that he said he came home from Downing Street that morning when she was ill. She then felt slightly better so he went back to Downing Street."

"Surely returning to work is against the rules because the rules said if someone in your house has symptoms you self isolate for 14 days."
He also said his wife did not have symptoms of Covid and that she did not have a cough or a fever. He said he'd rushed home because she was ill as she had been sick. Later on she felt better so he returned to work.

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Barbie222 · 25/05/2020 23:46

That's the first whiff of bullshit, though - would you expect the PM's adviser to really run home because of one vomit incident, and then decide it wasn't so bad, so he could go back to work?

I just can't believe that

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JacobReesMogadishu · 25/05/2020 23:50

But sickness Is one of the symptoms of Covid and he knew by then that Boris and Hancock had tested positive. He’s not thick. He must have realised that there was a good chance she (and indeed he) had it.

But yes I guess we were only told to stay at home if a temp or a cough.

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Mumratheevergiving · 25/05/2020 23:50

If he returned to work and the symptoms were of a sickness bug then why later that night would you relocate your family halfway across the country at a point everyone was being told to stay at home? His actual home, as opposed to his childhood home, would certainly be closer to the workplace he was so eager to get back to. Anyone else would face a fine or a public stripping down for this load of bollocks, just sack him Boris!

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sleepingdragon · 26/05/2020 00:05

And if the symptoms were just of a sickness bug why did he say they didn't want to risk exposing his London friends and family to a killer bug by asking them for help with childcare?? In one breath they had no corona symptoms so felt it was ok to travel, in another they thought they had the virus and so couldn't access help where they live.

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Mumoftwo0357 · 26/05/2020 00:46

His wife can drive but it was actually her birthday that day so perhaps she wanted a day off. In a pretty location. And a nice day out.

I’ve never heard so much nonsense in my life.

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Mumoftwo0357 · 26/05/2020 00:49

The incredible thing is that he rushed home to her then went bank to work. That’s breach 1 before they even left London.

The way he said she couldn’t possibly look after a child while ill annoyed me. How many of us have done that with flu, hideous chest infections, norovirus etc. How the other half live.

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Mumoftwo0357 · 26/05/2020 00:53

I agree the baying mob thing is rubbish. When an mp confronted Cummings about the death threats he was receiving last year, Cummings showed zero remorse. He said we’ll sign the withdrawal agreement if you don’t want death threats.

He had an advisor frogmarched out of the building (she’s now claiming unfair dismissal) and is said to lead a bullying culture that makes Malcolm Tucker look like Minnie Mouse

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Mumoftwo0357 · 26/05/2020 00:54

Well sign not we’ll

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Handsoffisback · 26/05/2020 01:01

Why can’t people drive from Durham to London but in the next breath claim they can drive? You should be competent to drive on all roads in all conditions and if you can’t then you shouldn’t be driving.

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HeddaGarbled · 26/05/2020 01:04

Wouldn’t you love to know what that marriage is like? He can’t look after his child when his wife’s ill, she can’t drive the car when he’s ill, she can’t be left in her lovely big house in London when he’s at work because there’s (at that stage) mild media interest. Yet she’s a high-profile professional woman. Bizarre.

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ZombieFan · 26/05/2020 01:16

That’s breach 1 before they even left London
Except he said she didn't have either of the symptoms of covid at that point.

the driving to test his eyesight was an obvious lie
Except he didn't say that. He said he was good to go home that day, it was his wife that suggested they have a short test drive to see if he was able to make a longer drive and then go home the next day.

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ZombieFan · 26/05/2020 01:19

Why can’t people drive from Durham to London but in the next breath claim they can drive?
I have driven for 30 years and have a clean license but could never make a drive from Durham to London. Very common.

He can’t look after his child when his wife’s ill
I dont imagine anyone could wfh helping run the country and look after a 4yo

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Choux · 26/05/2020 08:27

Surely he'd spent enough time with Johnson and Hancock that he needed to self isolate regardless of whether his wife was ill? And with the PM self isolating and many meetings becoming virtual he could have worked from home.

It's possible he dashed home because Covid was in Downing St, then thought it through and decided to self isolate / work in Durham. He went back to office to collect papers, technology etc to facilitate working from Durham.

Essentially he's done what Jenrick has re moving to second home but Jenrick did it before lockdown. Cummings did it after lockdown and after being exposed to the virus.

Mary's article is a work of fiction. Nothing in it can be assumed true.

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Inoneminute · 26/05/2020 08:33

I wouldn't relish the idea of doing that drive and in usual circumstances I'd let DH do it, but if he was unwell, on a day when roads would be deserted and we really needed to make the trip I'd do it.

Actually MW is coming across as a bit of a drip in all of this. Needed him to run home because she was sick with a 4yo, can't get a taxi home from hospital, can't drive on the motorway, but if that is their family dynamic (or go let's go for the usual MN thing, she has MH issues) maybe that makes all their actions seem reasonable to them.

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NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 26/05/2020 08:38

"there is no need for someone with blurry eyes to do the whole thing themselves."
He did not say his eyes were blurry. You have made that up. He said his eyes had felt "weird" during his illness. He didn't say his eyesight was affected. He also said he'd consulted a doctor who agreed he was safe to return to work.

"He went up for their help. But didn't use it."
He did not go up for their help. He went up so that he could access the help of his nieces, in case they both become incapacitated by illness. They did have the help of his sister shopping for him. They did not end up needing the childcare because his wife's illness got better and his got worse. When he was ill, his wife was able to care for their child.

"surely they must have stopped for either a loo stop or petrol"
DC stated that he did not stop on the journey. The journey was made at night with them arriving around midnight. He said he had a full tank of petrol.
If he was lying, the baying mob of press would jump on that straight away. Someone would be able to dispute his account. They haven't. Ergo, they can't because they know he is telling the truth.

"They used an ambulance and spent a night in hospital which would be the worst place to spread it"
He was advised to call 999. His wife and child went to hospital by ambulance and he stayed at home. Don't you think he and/or his wife would have told the ambulance staff of their illnesses? He is a very well-educated man and clearly understands a great deal about this illness. When he drove to collect them the next day, he did not leave the car when picking them up.

"If he had said he had an awful 2 weeks, all the family feeling ill and went out for a drive for a birthday treat but kept 2m distance at all times people would be annoyed, maybe angry but there wouldn't be this total lack of trust especially if he had apologized for it."
Why should he make up a story to suit that narrative though? He explained his behaviour in detail. He did not go out for a birthday treat. He didn't apologise because there is provision, which we all know, for us to divert from the guidance to provide care for a vulnerable person, in this case his child.
Why apologise for doing nothing wrong?

I stay at home for the most part but I do go into the home of a vulnerable person weekly to provide them with care. I am within 2m of them within their home and I would not apologise for this either because it is provided for within the guidelines.

I think many must be misinterpreting the guidelines to the detriment of themselves. He has not misinterpreted the guidelines.

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MadgeMak · 26/05/2020 08:43

His child is no more vulnerable than any other child.

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Barbie222 · 26/05/2020 08:46

Odd full-on posts here from the middle of the night.

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Barbie222 · 26/05/2020 08:48

The fact that it was vomiting makes it even more odd that they decided to make the drive, given the "distinctive number plate" and the likelihood of needing to stop to barf on the motorway / attracting attention?

I hope the Guardian don't let go of this. There will be a reason for the drive, and a reason for the Barnard Castle trip

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NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 26/05/2020 08:58

"would you expect the PM's adviser to really run home because of one vomit incident, and then decide it wasn't so bad, so he could go back to work?"
Who said she had one incident of vomitting? She phoned him to say she wasn't well and had vomited. He did not indicate whether this was once or multiple times but it was sufficient for him to run out of Downing Street, which he was seen doing.

He didn't decide it wasn't so bad. He said she felt better later so he returned to work.

His work is extremely important and isn't a 9 -5 role, especially during the pandemic. If the Govt and scientists decided to clock off at 5 p.m. we'd really be in the shit.

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NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 26/05/2020 09:02

"His child is no more vulnerable than any other child."
Has anyone said his child is more vulnerable than any other child?

Any 4-year old is vulnerable if both parents become so incapacitated by Illess that they cannot take care of them.

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MadgeMak · 26/05/2020 09:14

If his parents had become incapacitated, IF. When he drove to Durham he was not ill or displaying any symptoms. If the definition of a child being vulnerable is based on a what if scenario then all children must therefore be equally as vulnerable.

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Barbie222 · 26/05/2020 09:18

No, sorry, I don't believe that she is so precious and hopeless that she needs her husband to come home from the office because she's been sick a couple of times. This plain isn't true. He is giving us this to distract from something else. It is an un-believable story and course of action for someone with such a key role, and the worst bit of the story, the most back-filled, has to do with the walks, the hospital visit and the Castle Barnard trip.

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AlecTrevelyan006 · 26/05/2020 09:25

I really don’t how anyone can believe the reason given for the castle trip. Even Cummings supporters on the forum I spend most of time on have admitted that it’s nonsense - they now simply claim that it doesn’t matter and it’s time to move on

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SleepingStandingUp · 26/05/2020 09:29

Surely returning to work is against the rules he said she hadn't got corona symptoms, just that she felt woozy and sick, in sure. He said it a few times I believe

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