What do you think the post-virus world will be like?

[BestestBrownies]

I think the divide between rich and poor will widen considerably, and the repercussions will be major civil unrest unless serious measures are taken to mitigate it (universal basic income brought in, minimum wage increased to appropriate living wage, decent social housing for key workers etc).

The inevitable global recession will see a generation of completely disillusioned youth with large university debts and poor employment prospects. Their anger will fuel necessary change.

Mental health care will require major investment to prevent endemic depression and suicide.

This will be an unpopular view, but I also hope multiple airlines go bust and air travel becomes largely unaffordable/unnecessary as people who previously would fly to Europe for the day for meetings hold them online instead. I hope momentum from the Greta Thunberg movement combined with the visible improvements lockdowns have made to the planet puts massive pressure on governments to make real and quantifiable changes to protect and heal the earth from the damage the human race has done.

[EightNineTen]

I also think thst coronavirus will soon be gorgotten and life will be pretty much how it is now, only there'll be a heavier rdcesdion or a depression. Nothing much of zny note will change though.

[JaneJeffer]

Greta Thunderbug can fuck off

[Mimishimi]

Fascist

[CtrlU]

I’m optimistic and hoping the world will be more empathetic and concious after this ordeal...I’m starting to think I’m the only one though

[CherryValanc]

"I just don't understand why people continue to vote for politicians approve of this level of inequality"
I think it's because a lower percentage of the group that are in disadvantaged, vote.

I'm not too sure there will be much changed to general public attitide or behaviour. The economy will be effected certainly. Behaviour-wise, not so much, it's not gone on long enough (despite feeling like it has!). Not conviced bin collectors and delivery workers will be appreciated more than they are now by the average Joe Soap. Don't think nurses or other HCP will fair better with the government. I can only hope the shallow-celebrity obsession will disappear, but I suspect not.

It'll be certainly be interesting to see how the pandemic will be viewed historically. This global pandemic will be a big historic event I think. Once there's hindsight, how will the general behaviour of society and dfferent country's government actions during it be recorded.

[Stuckupsnob]

Recession for sure. I hope meetings will be held via video. And I hope people view NHS staff, and servicemen differently. Other than that it’s hard to tell how things will be affected in 10/20 years time.probably go back to normal.

[BestestBrownies]

Lockdown measures of some sort will last until at least September in the UK/Europe.

Brexiters will get their wish with borders closed for an extended period. Then we’ll find out just how difficult it is to manage without a steady influx of hard working immigrants doing all the low-paid drudge work and propping up the NHS.

There will be huge resentment and a sense of betrayal amongst the group that fills these gaps (youth with degrees that have become worthless overnight and crippling debt).

The tourism industry will never recover. Countries whose economies rely heavily on theirs will be in serious trouble.

I fear that places like Africa, South America and India/Pakistan (where people live in slum conditions and there is scarce medical provision), will be utterly decimated by the virus and remain no-go areas for a very long time.

America will see terrible consequences of Trump’s mis-management of the virus response.

[malificent7]

I think there will be a boom in tourism as people free from lockdown will want to go wild and explore but places like India will suffer most.

[Egghead68]

I don’t think there will be much tourism for a long time. Other countries won’t want British people coming in and bringing the virus.

[MarieG10]

Difficult to predict...difficult as well until there is a vaccine and in sufficient volume to reach herd immunity and protect the aged..

Lots of care homes going bust due to lack of residents as opposed to level of fees.

Lots more home working and flexibility as lots of dinosaur bosses can not argue any longer it doesn't work....I won my battle on that finally as my team have been as productive as before working from home with hours that fit around their commitments (think they needed to prove a point as well)

Lots less socialising

Brexit...could go either way. Might be the EU realise fucking us off any more is a bad idea when they have bigger fish to fry, but I think CV is another huge test for the EU as it exposes the north south divide so they will probably want to be as punitive as possible to stop any other country leaving and keep the "project" going

Recession...a bad one. Another lost generation if not careful like the early 80s

Maybe less travel and staycations...maybe camp sites will benefit but Centre Parks won't with their prices

Overall a lot more people die from the consequences of this..ie poverty and recession than died from CV. But like the poor residents of the care homes who die, they won't be counted in any figures.

Politics. Um...well not sure what Labours pitch will be as usually it is to borrow vast amounts and bankrupt the country but we will probably still be around that point in 5 years

Overall grim

[videoisamurderer]

Increased appreciation and funding for NHS
A better understanding of how to manage in future pandemics/major crisis
More emphasis on family time and simple pleasures, learnt from time in lockdown
Less air travel, and a push to work towards a greener future

Trying to be desperately positive here!

[MarshaBradyo]

If flights are more expensive then could be beneficial

I’d really like for pollution to be lower all round but I doubt it

The rich will get richer as they buy up cheap companies

It’d be nice if some quality of valuing essential workers remained

Agree re India etc where Westerners has travelled in an idealised manner

[MarshaBradyo]

Had travelled..

[SecondaryBurnzzz]

It's so difficult to know, things could possibly go back to the way they have always been (with all of the attendant inequalities) or there could be a massive adjustment in the way we live that will cut our emissions, make us buy more locally, wfh more, keep elderly with us rather than putting them in care homes, less buying of crap we don't need, valuing the scientists, medical profession etc.

One thing I am concerned about is if Brexit was going to cause a recession before this virus, what's it going to do now? Surely they'll have to extend the transition period now.

[Fucket]

I think the EU will ultimately implode. I don’t know how they are going to sort out the issues with Spain and Italy.

The world will become more insular, less trusting of strangers. I read somewhere a few weeks ago that humans probably evolved to be wary of strangers because they may have brought unknown diseases with them. So I think unfortunately there is going to be a lot of ‘you don’t belong here, go home’ mentality. Whether you are a second home owner from London or an economic migrant. I don’t want that to happen but it probably will. I believe countries will also want to make sure supply chains are not so international. Things like medicines, chemical production, food production, Ppe equipment, we are going to need to start manufacturing things in the UK again. Therefore China is going to see a massive recession because of a) their poor handling of the outbreak b) their economy will suffer as demand for their manufacturing falls.

I’m hopeful people will wash their hands more.

Working from home will probably be more acceptable.

Tourism industry will die out. Airlines, package holidays, cruise companies etc will all implode.

I hope that people become less obsessed about their digital image, and the cult of celebrity. Paying someone to glue false eyelashes all over you, or walking around with large germ riddled plastic talons is hopefully going to be a thing of the past. It seems quite disgusting from a disease transmission point of view. People are not going to take interest in celebrities like they once did. I am hopeful people will reconnect with their families and learn to enjoy a simpler life.

People are going to want bigger gardens and those properties with them will probably be worth more than those with little or no outside space. Food chains are going to wobble and people who can grow their own vegetables will have a slight advantage.

[Fatted]

What? You mean we will survive? I thought everyone on here thought we were all going to die a horrible coronavirus death?!

It will be the same as always. Humans will survive. Rebuild. Rich get richer, poor get poorer.

But I think this will be a going on for a lot longer than most other people seem to be planning for.

[HanaHeya]

Europe will suffer one of the worst recessions and be taken to brink of collapse by debt and unemployment. UK will extend transition period then get much better FTA than would ever have been available before CV (Brexiteers will say ha told you so as if they predicted this would happen)

Uk, Europe and US also lose all credibility on world stage for mismanaging crisis.

Trump will get re-elected as he will find a way to fudge the figures and blame China, possible conflict looming as he may feel like he needs to be seen to be tough on them to win in November

Asia will become dominant global economy

Inflation will sky rocket, not sure what interest rates will do but problem is so many people have leveraged huge debt on assumption credit would remain cheap forever. Could be huge blow to mortgage holders if wage inflation and employment don’t keep up (they won’t).

Hospitality and events will never be the same again, nor will foreign travel. Hopefully air travel reduces and Richard Branson goes down with it. Sadly this means end of many musicians too unless they can innovate.

Big business will be dominated by tech firms who essentially now run the world because they are our best hope of staying connected

[1moreRep]

i think the world will be a far better place.

there will be a huge boom in sustainability and positive social morale.

communities will continue to grow closers d support each other

far better appreciation for key workers

less travel and more working from
home.

many ppl will loose their jobs but new sectors will grow

ppl will holiday in the uk more

city house prices will drop and rural
communities will become more desirable.

there will be a focus and responsibility on looking after your personal heath, this virus has shown that if you are unhealthy by choice your lifestyle choice has a negative impact on society as you need more medical attention etc. hopefully more people will embrace excersize.

kids will be happier, parents will use this time to reconnect and many will decide to get off the corporate ladder to spend more time at home

there will be a lot of empty care homes, i fear those deaths are not being reported in the press,

[HanaHeya]

And yes to the end of the cult of celebrity, thank god. People will celebrate skills and achievements over eyebrows and bum lifts. Harry and Meghan will disappear into insignificance.

[HanaHeya]

Just to address the care home point

People are forgetting the huge population of older people who are now completely isolated, loneliness will become a huge issue. Care homes whilst not perfect often offer community and companionship for older people who would otherwise be alone. I think more older people will be unable to live independently after losing a partner to CV, and may recognise the value of supportive care in a residential context. I think in the medium term, demand for community living among older people could actually rise, especially as most people are not set up to support older relatives eg don’t have space in the house, or both out working.

[meditrina]

Even though the thread title says 'world' most people here are talking about Britain and other very rich nations.

We are not most of the world, and the spread of the disease in poorer areas, or in refugee camps is barely reported on. Those areas, without anywhere near enough health provision, could well suffer enormously and the potential for serious difficulty and unrest in multiple locations in roughly the same timeframe is quite high.

The need for aid will be huge - so using the oft-cited phrase 'the broadest shoulders bear the biggest burden' in this case it means rich countries including UK, need to up international aid significantly.

[Roselilly36]

Much more people will be WFH on a permanent basis, freeing up lots of office space, that could be used for housing.

The younger generation will be paying much higher taxes, as will businesses that survive this crisis.

Air travel - I think the days of bargain flights will be long forgotten, I think holidays abroad will become much more expensive.

Nurses and other keyworkers will receive an uplift in pay.

Zero hour contracts banned, never should have been allowed in the first place.

The divide between rich & poor will be even more, sadly.

Big slump in property markets globally, harder to get mortgage products, people losing homes.

[tallrachel]

"I also think living on credit will become a thing of the past as lenders refuse to lend"

Lenders make money by lending though. It will be like 2008/2009 again. Lenders will be more careful at first but eventually greed will get the better of them and we will be back to 90% mortgages all over again. The economy is built on extreme capitalism and the country full of materialistic people, this will not change.

[Waxonwaxoff0]

I can't see loads changing to be honest. People will be desperate to get back to normal life.

Air travel might become more expensive. Poverty rise and more unemployment. House prices might drop.

I really don't think pubs and restaurants will suffer once we're allowed to go to them again. This is Britain, people will be desperate to go back to the pub.

[PigletJohn]

I think once the pandemic has gone, people will soon put it to the back of their minds.

Perhaps we will be more conscious of the need for properly resourced public services.

To rebuild the economy, we will need to tax and spend. Obviously we can't continue to tolerate tax-dodging billionaires and multinationals.

So we'll need governments that don't allow it.