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To be amazed at how many people are making excuses
Sunshinesky1981 · 13/03/2020 10:14
Looking through these threads I'm feeling pretty horrified at the amount of people that either dont seem to be able to understand what self isolate actually means or are already making excuses as to why it can't possibly apply to them ?!?
Have read so many.. oh I'm not going to self isolate, I'm pretty sure it's just a cold. Can I still go for a walk. I need to go out for a run or else I'd go crazy, how am i going to walk the dog, I'd only pop to the shop really quickly
No wonder the schools aren't shutting, and we are not banning gatherings. I really can't understand how people are either not getting this or feel happy to just think sod the risk
Tatty101 · 13/03/2020 10:46
Again, Govn should be putting measures in place to ensure this doesn't impact people's finances - I totally agree.
But are you saying your credit rating is more important than a vulnerable person's life? The issue is there is a significant incubation period meaning you could be passing it on before you know you have it. If you have symptoms and are still refusing to self-isolate, I find it very difficult to understand your PoV when looking at places like Iran or Italy.
isabellerossignol · 13/03/2020 10:47
I can actually understand people's reluctance to keep their children off school. The government have spent years telling us that it's imperative that children don't miss days at school for minor illnesses. In normal times Mumsnet is awash with threads from parents who are worried because they've had a warning letter from school because their child has been sick too often. And it's easy to decide for other people that they can manage without their salary this month, but people who are already living payday to payday don't have anything to fall back on. Being £250 down for a lot of people means no food. My family could self isolate for a month and we'd be bored but fine. We'd still have food and electricity. But in the past we would quickly have run out of both.
PerfectParrot · 13/03/2020 10:48
dogs still need to be walked.
No they don't. See the RSPCA for advice of how to provide suitable stimulation for a dog indoors.
Reasons like "I will lose my home" or "I can't feed by kids" I have sympathy with. Walking your dog is not comparable to either of those, and is exactly the sort of selfish and stupid behaviour that the OP is talking about.
alloutoffucks · 13/03/2020 10:50
No I am not surprised at all OP.
The Government has been minimising this virus for weeks. You simply can't go from - oh its only a mild cold, don't worry - to you need to stay in the house and not leave at all if you have a slight cough.
It doesn't work.
The Government have been obsessed with stopping people panicking. Instead they have created a situation where most people are not taking this seriously enough.
chocolateandpinkgin · 13/03/2020 10:52
"Doctors and scientists are working on estimating the mortality rate of COVID-19, but at present, it is thought to be higher than that of most strains of the flu".
There's also no vaccine for it, unlike normal flu. It's not 'just like flu'. It's really not.
stripes416 · 13/03/2020 10:52
I'm already seeing all the "oh we're not going to isolate because it's just a cough, we'll still go to work and school because it's just a cough" attitudes. I really disagreed with the decision not to close schools because it won't be taken seriously, now I kind of understand what they meant. The problem is they put this new advice into place but nobody will follow this so nothing will change
PlanDeRaccordement · 13/03/2020 10:52
I agree with you OP. If someone is told to self isolate, they should self isolate and not ignore their responsibility towards the community. Sadly, a lot of responses on this thread indicate that avoiding £250 of credit card debt is worth more than a human life (or more).
Geepipe · 13/03/2020 10:54
What time period are you talking about? What if you are ill for 2 months? Do you really think you can keep a dog traooed inside for 2 months because thats beyond cruel and evil. Being outside isnt a problem at all. Taking a dog walking in a field or woods isnt going to bloody pass it to anyone. Its not like going to the pub or a nursery or social place. The outdoors alone is perfectly ok.
Straycatstrut · 13/03/2020 10:55
Basically only the rich, retired or WFH folk can self-isolate effectively. If the gov expect younger, working people to self isolate they need to be making up for the loss in wages, or they'll lose everything. Great for homeowners and people who own their cars outright etc who have protection - what about renters, people with cars on finance?
The Government isn't going to suddenly shed out a load of extra cash for people who have a cough.
Sunshinesky1981 · 13/03/2020 10:56
Surely though all the people saying they would face massive financial hardship of be evicted should be even more pissed off with people who can self isolate as per government guidelines who are planning to be 'self isolating' most of the time.. apart from going for a run, or to waitrose . These are the people who are more than likely going to make you sick and then you are going have to self isolate ?
And no you shouldn't be taking the dog for a walk. Self isolation guidelines actually states DO NOT go for a walk /take dogs out. There is even advice on the RSPCA page
daffodilsandblossom · 13/03/2020 10:56
I completely agree and this is why I think the government's approach is correct no matter how angry people get them not shutting the schools. They are going to make incremental changes to the way we are living our lives in order to ensure people comply.
People with a cough and a fever have been told to self-isolate (aka they are unwell) and those people are still wanting to break the rules and go out on day one of self-isolation! Can you imagine if they told healthy children and healthy families to stay at home, nobody would obey it at the moment.
Nononoandno · 13/03/2020 10:57
PlanDeRaccordement · 13/03/2020 10:58
Angel, it just got here so of course the number of deaths are low. And “normal flu” are up to a million different viruses all called “flu”. It’s like counting up all broken bones in a year and then comparing it to the number of people who have broken their pinky finger just last week. Apples and oranges.
Look at the WHO page and the figures for Italy. You’ll see it’s not a mild flu. It is a SARS virus which is nastier than flu.
I’m not about panicking and closing schools and such down. I am just saying if you are sick with symptoms of this virus for gods sake self isolate. Don’t deliberately go out and spread this illness around.
aroundtheworldyet · 13/03/2020 10:59
But if you have to self isolate for 1 week. 2 maximum. Unless you are in VERY dire straights financially then you should be ok.
Most people I know who are self employed have contingency money. Because everyone gets sick at some point.
Most workers have normal sick pay.
It’s an extremely small amount of people who will struggle and for them there will be extra help. Charities. All kinds of things.
It’s not that hard. The main problem is the people who don’t think it’s worth it. Or actually don’t think it’s their problem. Or don’t want to get into any debt.
It’s max two weeks people. Not 6 fucking months.
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