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And our loved-up February Book of the Month is...THE ENCHANTED APRIL by Elizabeth Von Arnim (discussion Tuesday 24 February)

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TillyBookClub · 21/01/2009 10:26

We'll be chatting about our Book of the Month, THE ENCHANTED APRIL by Elizabeth Von Arnim, a witty, escapist classic, here on Tuesday 24 February from 8-10pm.

Don't forget you can order your copy here

Keen to know how the votes turned out? Have a snoop at the results here

And, for anyone who missed them first time round, here were February's passion-filled book choices

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whistlejacket · 24/02/2009 21:02

mummycat1 really interesting to remind us of the context of when this book was written. If we find a romantic Italian castle appealing in this day and age, it must have been an incredible thought for people reading it and living with the fallout of war. I think this is where the book had a chance to be deeper but didn't do it. And probably didn't do it because, as you say, people wanted some light escapism

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strawberrylace · 24/02/2009 21:02

don't think they made enough of the wonderful castle and weather and scenery as i would've done (jealous, moi?)
but i wouldn't have wanted to spend a month with any of them.

Alternate ending:
In the first recorded episode of Italian Big Brother, the four housemates and their surprise men visitors have the length of time it takes for Mrs Fisher to eat a bowl of pasta to decide which one of them should leave in a surprise eviction

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whistlejacket · 24/02/2009 21:08

I really enjoyed the book as I read it and it's feelgood enough to be a Hollywood movie. Maybe Scarlett Johanssen as Lady Caroline and Judi Dench as Mrs Fisher? Keira Knightly and Kate Winslet could be the other two.

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TillyBookClub · 24/02/2009 21:09

Utopia idea very interesting - so often utopias are really hidden distopias. Do you think the women could have continued in a happy commune without the arrival of men? Mrs Fisher was actually rather horrid and unhappy until Mellersh arrives and puts her at ease. Caroline is also unhappy-ish until she knows that Mellersh isn't going to grab. They need the catalyst of men arriving to hang together properly.

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spursmummy · 24/02/2009 21:11

Thanks mummycat 1. Having read what you've put I'm going to re-read it and think more about the time in which it was written rather than just reading it for its own sake (if you see what I mean). I suppose if Rose and Lottie's husbands have been away at war that's a huge reason for why they are so distant from each other (and it's also maybe why the men are utterly fixated with their work to the detriment of their relationships), and maybe because it's so lovely out there as opposed to any past experience the husbands have of Europe that the magic of the place works on them too, if only to a little extent in Mellersh's case.

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mummycat1 · 24/02/2009 21:12

Took so long writing all that, that I've only just caught up with the rest of the chat!

Lots of you seem to be drawn towards the lesbian - there was definitely an element of it wasn't there? I did wonder at times if Lotty and Rose might, Rose fizzled out a bit after a while - I kept wanting her to come back into it and live properly for herself, not merely exist for the sake of a man! Or maybe it was maternal longing?

To be fair - ending was very neat and the Briggs/Lady C bit didn't quite work as he wasn't any different to all the men who had bored her before.

morning paper Gin and jacuzzi sounds fab - would have jazzed things up a little!

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TillyBookClub · 24/02/2009 21:13

Apparently this is already a brilliant film - a great mate told me she grew up watching it with her sisters and mum every Christmas. The cast was:

Josie Lawrence ... Lottie Wilkins
Miranda Richardson ... Rose Arbuthnot
Alfred Molina ... Mellersh Wilkins
Jim Broadbent ... Frederick Arbuthnot
Michael Kitchen ... George Briggs
Joan Plowright ... Mrs. Fisher
Polly Walker ... Caroline Dester

just added it to my lovefilm list

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mummycat1 · 24/02/2009 21:16

whistlejacket there is a film version - done in 1990s - available on dvd soon from Amazon - think I might take a look - Josie Lawrence is Lottie and there are some other famous bods in it, but I'm hopeless with names of famous people and names in general to be fair [confused emoticon}

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mummycat1 · 24/02/2009 21:17

yeah that's it Tilly

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lemurtamer · 24/02/2009 21:19

I haven't seen the film, quite glad before I read it, but couldn't help seeing Mrs Fisher as Joan P while reading.

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whistlejacket · 24/02/2009 21:19

Brill I'll try and get hold of it will be interesting to see how it's been done

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TillyBookClub · 24/02/2009 21:25

Another trivia fact: the von Arnims hired EM Forster as a tutor to their kids at one point. This did remind me of A Room with a View, but less critical and more flippantly fun. Forster wrote his in 1908 and this was 1922 so surely she was influenced by him...

I agree about post WW1 literature. The demand for unthinkingly uplifting, relentlesly happy stuff must have been huge. Otherwise I suppose you did bitter satire like Evelyn Waugh?

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spursmummy · 24/02/2009 21:34

Tilly, I tried to read A Room with a View years ago but just couldn't get into it, if I wanted to read something like The Enchanted April but with a bit more bite to it would you recommend it? (Sorry for going off-topic).

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Wheelybug · 24/02/2009 21:35

good point about the post war period. I guess it would have been suitable for then. I think like Carrie said - I was expecting (or wondering if there was) a deeper meaning to it but I don't think there was. It started off relatively feminist - 2 women bored with their lives, leave their men (in Lotty's case, fairly deviously) and run off to the sun to enjoy themselves. Then they actually realise all they want is their husbands anyway and that makes them happy so not very feminist after all.

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CarrieMumsnet · 24/02/2009 21:42

oh I love that trivia fact... it does remind me of Forster when I think about it...Sorry don't feel I've contributed much, but have really enjoyed everyone else's contributions!

Will definitely look out for the film, though was quite enjoying the casting speculation

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HelenMumsnet · 24/02/2009 21:44

Ooh, Joan Plowright is SO Mrs Fisher: exactly who I was picturing when reading the book!

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GeraldineMumsnet · 24/02/2009 21:45

Bet Elizabeth would have been good value for a webchat. You get the feeling she would have been entertainingly frank.

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mummycat1 · 24/02/2009 21:48

I found EM Forster quite tough to read, but that's just my opinion, but go for it - just remember it's modernism so not much happens!

Speaking of which if you want haunting, depressive writing post WW1 then go for Ginny Woolfe - she's fab

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HelenMumsnet · 24/02/2009 21:49

And what happened to the sexy gardener? He sounded so promising when they got to the castle and then he just disappeared (presumably into the acacias).

Maybe it would have been less trite if he had ended up with Lady Caroline?

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mummycat1 · 24/02/2009 21:50

Bye everybody - it's past my bedtime - have loved chatting

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mummycat1 · 24/02/2009 21:51

yeah - more could have been made of the sexy Italian, but maybe then we would be annoyed about the romantic fiction sterotype?

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mummycat1 · 24/02/2009 21:52

Night - laptop is officially shutting down now!

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GeraldineMumsnet · 24/02/2009 21:52

Not so much a room of one's own, as an italian garden of one's own

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whistlejacket · 24/02/2009 21:55

Virginia Woolf... tried hard with her but not for me. Found I had to concentrate too much whereas Enchanted April was an easy read. But I wouldn't have read it if I hadn't joined the book club, I'm enjoying reading stuff I wouldn't have otherwise picked up

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